Tetsujin
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That Denver Summer League team may be one of the worst Summer League squads in recent memory
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iowamcnabb
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I think he lost more than 30 pounds in the off season
Tetsujin
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I was about to say, I didn't remember him looking this small at Iowa.
sactowndog
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Yep why I said against Denver as a qualifier.
iowamcnabb
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Sengun just finds a way to make an impact even if he isn't really flowing offensively. 9 points 1 board 1 assist 3 blocks and 2 charges taken in the first half.
KingsFanSince85
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Um, no it’s not.
Just because something isn’t 100% the same across the board doesn’t make it an apples to oranges comparison. Besides, aren’t apples and oranges both fruit?
KingsFanSince85
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Until this season the Giants hadn’t been doing much winning the past 6 years. Unless you consider finishing 15-20 games back “winning”. You’re taking a big leap in connecting 20 years together as a whole.
Furthermore, correlating whatever success they’d had to the reason you just laid out is faulty. Following that playbook in no way ensures winning for anyone.
The biggest and common reason for success is acquiring and developing good players. Something the Giants have done better than the KINGS. That’s why they’ve done more winning. Not because of the factor you’re citing.
KingsFanSince85
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Exactly. People are way too sensitive. To everything.
This wasn’t De’Aaron Fox leaving the team. Or even a lesser heralded player such as Willie Cauley-Stein. It was a member of their G-League squad that appeared in 34 games with the parent team over 2 seasons, mostly in garbage time. He wasn’t even on the bench or in uniform most games.
I’ll bet Mateen Cleaves didn’t get any better treatment when he departed SAC during their glory years despite having a more prominent role waving a towel. And nobody here cared about his treatment then or now.
iowamcnabb
Hall of Famer
Only time will tell, but Sengun looks way better on defense and that was the big concern with him. 21 points 8 boards 4 blocks 3 assists 1 steal and he isn't even the feature on offense. I do think we might regret passing on him but I KNOW we will regret not coming for that 16th pick like Houston did. Houston looks like they nailed all three of their first round picks. And like you said, how can we not be happy with Davion? Queta has potential too. Hopefully it works out for us
kb02
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In the past 20 years, the Giants went to the World Series and lost during the Bonds/Dusty era. Went through a few years of rebuilding then went to and won three World Series during the Bochey/Timme/Buster era. Now after a few years of rebuilding, they’ve revamped their entire leadership team, acquired a boat load of new players, and have the best r3cord in the league.
During those periods, they won by building around Bonds and purposely destroying their minor league teams to save money and sign aging free agents. Then during the Timme era, they hit on a few pitchers and a generational catcher and built around pitching and defense. Now it’s all analytics and churning. Three completely different ways to win.
Yet during that time, the ownership group was the same, they hired, kept, and memorialized former members like Mays, McCovey, Will Clark, Jt Snow…acquired an ownership stake in CSN Bay Area, developed the land around ATT park…while earning a rep for being one of the best franchises in the league.
So, no, they didn’t win because of acquiring and developing. They won because of the culture that they built.
kb02
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Hayes would be a second rounder in a re-draft, but Cade hasn’t shown anything to suggest he can be a PG in the league. Lack of burst and his handle is loose.
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