Landry for Jameer Nelson?

[Asaf]

I mentioned this possibility in another thread in the rap section, but figured it could use its own thread here. What do you guys think?

Nelson is dispensable in Orlando now that they have Arenas, and we need a good vet PG who is not too old, and doesn't have a terrible contract.. They need a backup big, and Landry could possibly become the old Houston Landry for them when he is playing under a real coach with a real system and coming off the bench. I think it's a win-win trade.

Salaries don't have to match, I believe, since we are far under the cap.

 

[Tetsujin]

I doubt that Orlando would want to put the ball in the hands of Arenas (a prime example of a combo guard) while he is still adjusting to their system. They don't need a backup 4, they need a back up 5 so if anything, you probably get them to bite on a trade by offering Dalembert.

 

[kingsboi]

I would absolutely do it. I doubt Orlando would though.

 

[mac]

Well I don't know what the Magic are going to look like now, but if they follow their old system of basically throwing it to Howard and surrounding him with outside shooters then Landry's not going to fit in well at all. Instead of passing out to the open shooters he'll probably ISO or some crap like that

 

[Asaf]

Well I don't know what the Magic are going to look like now, but if they follow their old system of basically throwing it to Howard and surrounding him with outside shooters then Landry's not going to fit in well at all. Instead of passing out to the open shooters he'll probably ISO or some crap like that

He did pretty well with Yao. Let us not forget that contrary to us, Orlando have a coach.

 

[mac]

He did pretty well with Yao. Let us not forget that contrary to us, Orlando have a coach.

Uh no he did pretty well with Chuck Hayes. Yao has been out since the dawn of dinosaurs.

 

[Boogie-havoc]

If Orlando do want to trade Nelson, they'd much rather package him with Bass/Anderson and prolly get a much better deal elsewhere... I mean they're a bad passing team as it is, why would they wanna add "laststop" Landry?

 

[SacKings7]

Orlando did the Arenas trade to cut salary, not because they have Arenas in their long term plans. I'd obviously do the trade, but Orlando wouldn't. They have Hedo to play PF now anyway, he's been successful playing PF next to Howard. The only need the Magic have right now (other than chemistry) is a backup C if and when Howard gets into foul trouble. I can see them being interested in 1 of our C's or maybe Thompson, but not Landry

 

[Capt. Factorial]

Orlando did the Arenas trade to cut salary, not because they have Arenas in their long term plans.

Huh? How in the world does sending out a guy with 3/$63M left on his contract to get a guy with 4/$80M left on his contract even remotely fall under the category of "cutting salary"?

 

[SacKings7]

Huh? How in the world does sending out a guy with 3/$63M left on his contract to get a guy with 4/$80M left on his contract even remotely fall under the category of "cutting salary"?

Hmm, my bad. I was thinking about the first reported trade of Carter and Lewis for Arenas and filler. Either way, the rest of my post is true

 

[rainmaker]

Well, Nelson is still their starting pg, so I don't agree that he is expendable right now. At the trade deadline, maybe, but not yet. Depends on how Arenas plays. It was reported today Arenas will start at sg, and J Rich will start a sf. Hedo isn't starting at pf, but coming off the bench. Bass and Howard will start down low.

In theory, I would love to add Nelson to this team. My guess is Dally as an expiring would be the best bet, and I would pull the trigger on that. Gives them some insurance behind Dwight, and fee's up a lot of cap space this summer. We get a borderline top 10 pg that would help us immediately.

What I will be keeping an eye on, and will be our best hope, is for Orlando to start getting killed inside by the bigger teams. If that happens, they could very well look to acquire another big close to the deadline, and Dally as an expiring, and a backup to Dwight would have to be extremely attractive.

 

[Bricklayer]

Well, Nelson is still their starting pg, so I don't agree that he is expendable right now. At the trade deadline, maybe, but not yet. Depends on how Arenas plays. It was reported today Arenas will start at sg, and J Rich will start a sf. Hedo isn't starting at pf, but coming off the bench. Bass and Howard will start down low.

In theory, I would love to add Nelson to this team. My guess is Dally as an expiring would be the best bet, and I would pull the trigger on that. Gives them some insurance behind Dwight, and fee's up a lot of cap space this summer. We get a borderline top 10 pg that would help us immediately.

What I will be keeping an eye on, and will be our best hope, is for Orlando to start getting killed inside by the bigger teams. If that happens, they could very well look to acquire another big close to the deadline, and Dally as an expiring, and a backup to Dwight would have to be extremely attractive.

As long as they have Dwight I doubt too many teams are going to be crushing them inside -- Gortat certainly wasn't the key to preeventing that happening. And certainly I have a very hard time seeing backup to Dwight > starting PG for them. People are always trying to trade for guys who are popular with their hom franchises, but that rarely works. Lewis and Carter were probelms fro them, expensive proibems, so they moved them. But they like Jameer, and Dwight likes Jameer, and after such a huge turnover for a team still hoping to contend this year its really hard to se them rip out maybe the second most important stabilixing piece of the franchise too.

 

[RookieOfTheDay]

If Nelson remains starting PG, what would that mean for Redick? That would make him the 3rd option SG with Arenas and Richardson ahead of him, which might make him movable as well.

 

[Tetsujin]

If Nelson remains starting PG, what would that mean for Redick? That would make him the 3rd option SG with Arenas and Richardson ahead of him, which might make him movable as well.

They'll have Richardson at SF if I'm not mistaken.

 

[=LarryLegend=]

dont they already have a pf midget in Brandon Bass.

 

[SacKings7]

Yeah I'm in the unfortunate position of having several players involved in these trades on my fantasy team. Richardson's value goes down but I'm not sure about Redick. Arenas can play backup PG and Richardson can play backup SG so it could go either way, but Redick will still likely get 15-20 minutes a game (I hope). For fantasy purposes, I'm banking on Nelson going down with his annual injury pretty soon

 

[Asaf]

As long as they have Dwight I doubt too many teams are going to be crushing them inside -- Gortat certainly wasn't the key to preeventing that happening. And certainly I have a very hard time seeing backup to Dwight > starting PG for them. People are always trying to trade for guys who are popular with their hom franchises, but that rarely works. Lewis and Carter were probelms fro them, expensive proibems, so they moved them. But they like Jameer, and Dwight likes Jameer, and after such a huge turnover for a team still hoping to contend this year its really hard to se them rip out maybe the second most important stabilixing piece of the franchise too.

Hmmm, well I was basing my suggestion on rumors that they don't really like Jameer as much lately, but maybe those were false rumors.

 

[Bricklayer]

Hmmm, well I was basing my suggestion on rumors that they don't really like Jameer as much lately, but maybe those were false rumors.

I hadn't read those, so who knows.

 

[rainmaker]

This is something I would revisit given the injury to Bass, who could be out for a while. Orlando is extremely thin up front, and could use either Landry or Dally. Not sure exactly who woud needed to be involved to make it work, but Nelson would fit pretty nicely next to Tyreke.

 

[Boogie-havoc]

They'll want more tbh.. I know I would.

But man a team like Orlando will do VERY stupid things on paper to win a championship this or next year, we should test the water and try take advantage of thier situation.. we just might hit the jackpot.

 

[Vlade4GM]

I doubt that Orlando would want to put the ball in the hands of Arenas (a prime example of a combo guard) while he is still adjusting to their system. They don't need a backup 4, they need a back up 5 so if anything, you probably get them to bite on a trade by offering Dalembert.

What they need is an actual starting PF. I don't know if Landry is that, but Nelson may be the only player that can nab them that. They're stuck with Arenas for a while, so they might as well run with him.

 

[rainmaker]

They'll want more tbh.. I know I would.

But man a team like Orlando will do VERY stupid things on paper to win a championship this or next year, we should test the water and try take advantage of thier situation.. we just might hit the jackpot.

They have really set themselves up to "win now", and are scared about Dwight turning into the next Melo. He's a FA in 2012. This is their window, which makes it tougher to be selective and wait it out for the best deal. They're already starting Hedo at the 4, and now his backup is out. Howard doesn't have a backup, and could miss some games given he already has 12 techs.

I really think this is a team which isn't done dealing, and is in dire need of a big. It's somewhat risk free given Dally or Landry would be expiring, and if it was Dally, all that money comes off the books for them, and gives them more flexibility this summer, where the pressure will really turn up given Dwight is under contract one more year.

 

[sidney]

What they need is an actual starting PF. I don't know if Landry is that, but Nelson may be the only player that can nab them that. They're stuck with Arenas for a while, so they might as well run with him.

Landry would certainly start over Bass even if Bass wasn't injured.

Orlando is pretty stacked with guards: Arenas, Nelson, Duhon, Reddick, J Rich, and Q Rich sometimes as SG. Even if it is not with us I can see them trading some of that guard depth for bigs by the deadline.

 

[bajaden]

If Orlando do want to trade Nelson, they'd much rather package him with Bass/Anderson and prolly get a much better deal elsewhere... I mean they're a bad passing team as it is, why would they wanna add "laststop" Landry?

I agree that what they need is a backup center. I don't know why they would be interested in Landry when they have both Bass and Anderson. I'm a big fan of Anderson, and liked him at Cal. His minutes have started to go up of late. He was a good rebounder at Cal as well as a scorer. And at 6'10" he has the natural size for the position.

You might be able to intice them with Dalembert if they think he might put them over the hump come playoff time. Howard does tend to get into foul trouble.