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Kupchak on the trade and etc.
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The Kings are not the Celtics and may never get another chance. The only people who don't think something smelled in that game are Lakers' fans.
I'm over it except when an absolutely absurd trade falls into the lap of the Lakers I finally tip off into the insanity of conspiracy theories.
I don't give flying **** what Lakers' fans think of us. We live in different worlds. The Lakers are in a world of entitlement and the Kings in a world of welfare. What you call a "funk" is a successful year for us.
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Glenn, come back and cheer for the Lakers. Shaq is gone... Let's go get 'em Suns!!!!
I'm over it except when an absolutely absurd trade falls into the lap of the Lakers I finally tip off into the insanity of conspiracy theories.
I don't give flying **** what Lakers' fans think of us. We live in different worlds. The Lakers are in a world of entitlement and the Kings in a world of welfare. What you call a "funk" is a successful year for us.
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Glenn, come back and cheer for the Lakers. Shaq is gone... Let's go get 'em Suns!!!!
The Gasol trade wasn't even the biggest steal of the last 3 seasons; you could easily argue Carter to Toronto or Baron to GS for expiring contracts and marginal playerswere bigger steals. Lakers actually gave up a very promising 19 year old guard in Javaris Crittenton. Nets and Warriors didn't send ANY promising prospects to the Raptors or Hornets in the Carter and Davis trades. That is highway robbery.
As much as I hate to do it, I gotta disagree w/ you on that one, ace. Pau for Kwame was an all-time heist comin and goin (if you're a fan of GoodFellas, picture Ray Liotta screaming in the shower when he heard the news). Some will hiss and boo at this, but Baron isn't as impactful as Gasol. He's a good shooting-PG, but he's a shooting-PG.
I'd rank that trade as the biggest rip-off since Webber for Googs and Willis and my rationale is based on age, skill, and position. Shaq was inherently a bad trade for LA, no getting around it, but he's an old contractual albatross who had 2 yrs left.
I'd rank that trade as the biggest rip-off since Webber for Googs and Willis and my rationale is based on age, skill, and position. Shaq was inherently a bad trade for LA, no getting around it, but he's an old contractual albatross who had 2 yrs left.
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Glen, I will ask you what I ask my friends....IF the NBA was rigging it for the Lakers (big market)....please explain the New York Knicks!!!
Explain the Yankees. It's all ownership and tradition that has contributed to the Yankees success. Knicks have neither.
In any case, the Knicks have won 2 NBA championships in 50 years. I lost count on how many championships the Lakers have won. Add up the wins of the Lakers and the Celtics and you've got about half (close guess, I think).
Given what has happened in New York with basketball and baseball, I would have to say a franchise needs a bright owner. The money will take care of itself 'cause I can't imagine a team from LA or New York ever losing money.
That's just a guess of mine as I am sure Angelenos know the finances better than I.
In any case, if I said there was a conspiracy to favor the Lakers over anyone else and I'm not sure I said that - I certainly wouldn't mean it - the Knicks' problems are either irrelevant to the topic or might even support an argument of Lakers as favorites.
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I have a question: why would anyone want to buy Memphis? It has been losing money and by losing it's best player, it has no chance of having a winning record. How can it ever make money for a new owner?
Ahhh, I can answer my own question: the new owner has his/her own ideas of what to do with the franchise and is directing the Griz to do what he/she wants. A little nuts but then how do you explain Sterling?
I still think the trade stinks and there is something going on that is hidden from view.
Ahhh, I can answer my own question: the new owner has his/her own ideas of what to do with the franchise and is directing the Griz to do what he/she wants. A little nuts but then how do you explain Sterling?
I still think the trade stinks and there is something going on that is hidden from view.
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1962 - Hundley inbounds to West instead of Selvy.
1969 - "Nelson shoots, it bounces high and out!"
1970 - "Willis Reed sits on the sideline."
1984 - "Henderson does NOT steal the ball!"
1989 - Riles doesn't hold an unecessary pre-Finals 2-a-day camp.
2004 - Scott Williams doesn't suck Malone's knee up his butt.
^ Assume all that and you really don't want to hear the number.
1969 - "Nelson shoots, it bounces high and out!"
1970 - "Willis Reed sits on the sideline."
1984 - "Henderson does NOT steal the ball!"
1989 - Riles doesn't hold an unecessary pre-Finals 2-a-day camp.
2004 - Scott Williams doesn't suck Malone's knee up his butt.
^ Assume all that and you really don't want to hear the number.
I don't understand.
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Wait, let me guess. Hundley to Selvy: don't know. Did Frank Selvy fail the Lakers?
My favorite Nelson must have won the Celtics a championship.
Willis Reed is better on one leg than most other mortals. It also can only happen in an era where there is no help defense or zone. If not for Willis (I saw the game live on TV) we can subtract one championship from the Knicks total and they would be neck and neck with the Kings.
I don't have a clue as to the last three. I guess that gives away what era I'm stuck in.
Are you actually whining because the Lakers should have won more and the Knicks and Celtics less? Good for you! I love it.
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Wait, let me guess. Hundley to Selvy: don't know. Did Frank Selvy fail the Lakers?
My favorite Nelson must have won the Celtics a championship.
Willis Reed is better on one leg than most other mortals. It also can only happen in an era where there is no help defense or zone. If not for Willis (I saw the game live on TV) we can subtract one championship from the Knicks total and they would be neck and neck with the Kings.
I don't have a clue as to the last three. I guess that gives away what era I'm stuck in.
Are you actually whining because the Lakers should have won more and the Knicks and Celtics less? Good for you! I love it.
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I don't understand.
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Wait, let me guess. Hundley to Selvy: don't know. Did Frank Selvy fail the Lakers?
My favorite Nelson must have won the Celtics a championship.
Willis Reed is better on one leg than most other mortals. It also can only happen in an era where there is no help defense or zone. If not for Willis (I saw the game live on TV) we can subtract one championship from the Knicks total and they would be neck and neck with the Kings.
I don't have a clue as to the last three. I guess that gives away what era I'm stuck in.
Are you actually whining because the Lakers should have won more and the Knicks and Celtics less? Good for you! I love it.
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Wait, let me guess. Hundley to Selvy: don't know. Did Frank Selvy fail the Lakers?
My favorite Nelson must have won the Celtics a championship.
Willis Reed is better on one leg than most other mortals. It also can only happen in an era where there is no help defense or zone. If not for Willis (I saw the game live on TV) we can subtract one championship from the Knicks total and they would be neck and neck with the Kings.
I don't have a clue as to the last three. I guess that gives away what era I'm stuck in.
Are you actually whining because the Lakers should have won more and the Knicks and Celtics less? Good for you! I love it.
In 84, at the end of Gm2, the Lakers were about to go up 2-0 and were extra cautious by calling a timeout to take the ball from the backcourt. Worthy made a crosscourt pass that was stolen and scored by Gerald Henderson, which sent the gm to OT, where they lost. If not for that, bye-bye Boston.
In 89, the Lakers swept the WC, including a 29 pt comeback win in Gm4 at Seattle in the Semis. That team was tantamount to the 2001 squad that couldn't lose towards the end. Riley worked them 2-a-days during the long layoff and Scott pulled a hamstring before the series while Magic pulled his in the 2nd half of Gm2 with LA up by 8 at the time. They spent the rest of the series starting David Rivers and Cooper at guard.
In 70, Frazier also torched West, who had a bad hamstring as well. He hobbled around w/ an ace wrap on it.
2004 - Malone's knee (39 games). Scott Williams fell on it. In Gm2 of the Finals, he re-injured it in the air when one of the Wallaces caught his leg on their body. I think it was Ben. Slava didn't fare too well against Sheed, btw.
Yes, Lakers should've won more. Way it goes.
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Glenn, I can't TELL you how rough those two 1st round playoff seasons were.
Over here, fans and even our media were disgusted w/ the end to the 98 season (61 wins, WCFs). That's what spoilage is, you guys got a taste from the early 00s, but w/ us it's a mental condition formed over years. Trust me, it's not for show, we expect winning like it were a divine right.
Over here, fans and even our media were disgusted w/ the end to the 98 season (61 wins, WCFs). That's what spoilage is, you guys got a taste from the early 00s, but w/ us it's a mental condition formed over years. Trust me, it's not for show, we expect winning like it were a divine right.
Glenn, I can't TELL you how rough those two 1st round playoff seasons were.
Over here, fans and even our media were disgusted w/ the end to the 98 season (61 wins, WCFs). That's what spoilage is, you guys got a taste from the early 00s, but w/ us it's a mental condition formed over years. Trust me, it's not for show, we expect winning like it were a divine right.
Over here, fans and even our media were disgusted w/ the end to the 98 season (61 wins, WCFs). That's what spoilage is, you guys got a taste from the early 00s, but w/ us it's a mental condition formed over years. Trust me, it's not for show, we expect winning like it were a divine right.
Aha!!! I knew that all Laker fans had a mental condition. Thanks for the corroboration, Gargy.
We were about to have an emotional breakdown. Kwame had us on the brink of riot. You saw that game, right? You've seen us riot, right?
