Kings Vs. Suns Game Thread, 2/5, 7p.m. PST

[rainmaker]

this team is better without kevin, there's no doubt in my mind

First Tyeke was on the bench in foul trouble. Then the locker room after getting elbowed in the face. Kevin has plenty of time to try to make his impact felt out there. He was ******* invisible, and didn't contribute on either side of the ball. Tyreke comes in a makes things happen.

It is clear as day Kevin could care less about helping this team try to win. He wants shots. If he isn't hitting them, he does absolutely nothing to help. Everyone that helped us get back in the game was 21 or younger.

 

[Rockmeister]

WTH? What was supposed to mean? Since you hate Tyreke, it has nothing to do with him per say, he probably just didn't see Brockman wide open.

 

[pupsingh]

yes I know that jt is at a funeral and was not benched, what i meant was " how about benching him?" as an idea

 

[Circa_1985_Fan]

Damn, while Tyreke was dribbling, Brockman was WIDE open.

That's what Tyreke still needs to learn...court awareness of being a PG, he's a ways away from that.

 

[BigboiKingsFan]

Wasn't Evans guarding Nash at first.

 

[theclash4u5]

you guys swear like it makes a difference if martin is on the court or not, the suns dont play much defense.... as long as we are making shots we have a chance to get back into the game.

Martin isn't making his shots, so YES it does make a difference.

 

[AriesMar27]

WTH? What was supposed to mean? Since you hate Tyreke, it has nothing to do with him per say, he probably just didn't see Brockman wide open.

i was gonna say the exact same thing but since im labeled a tyreke hater, i didnt... but you did... he was wide open, how could you not see him? you saw him, i saw him, granted we are watching the game on tv so we can see evryone, but did you see tyreke looking for brockman or anyone else?

 

[BigboiKingsFan]

Why don't we just trade Martin for an expiring because that's all we're going to get. If teams know that the Kings want to get rid of him, then everybody is gonna low ball us. He's gotta get his value up, before you trade him.

 

[Jechtsphere]

I'm really in favor of benching JT, he'll always be a backup anyway.

 

[Showtime]

Martin isn't making his shots, so YES it does make a difference.

Exactly. If he's not making shots, he's not doing anything else to help the team, and is actually hurting the team on the other end. It's no surprise he leads the team with the worst +/- with -19 at the half.

 

[Kingsguy881]

Evans at -3, Martin at -19. Hmmm......

 

[Rockmeister]

i was gonna say the exact same thing but since im labeled a tyreke hater, i didnt... but you did... he was wide open, how could you not see him? you saw him, i saw him, granted we are watching the game on tv so we can see evryone, but did you see tyreke looking for brockman or anyone else?

Anyone reading your many posts regarding "a point guard not named" should be able to put 2 and 2 together.

 

[swisshh]

All Udoka does these days is pass up open shots and pump fake the offense into oblivion.

 

[Kingsguy881]

i was gonna say the exact same thing but since im labeled a tyreke hater, i didnt... but you did... he was wide open, how could you not see him? you saw him, i saw him, granted we are watching the game on tv so we can see evryone, but did you see tyreke looking for brockman or anyone else?

There's a reason you are labeled a Tyreke hater, son....for the same reason I am labeled a Kobe hater.

 

[theclash4u5]

The sad thing is, we only have 6 TO's...

 

[TIG Kings]

I like those 5 that ended first half! i saw more energy on defense and offense wasn`t bad too. I don`t think they didn`t defend Nash well, but he is just outstanding tonight! Maybe it would be better to "leave" him even more shots and stop his dishes to J-Rich and Amare.

 

[BigboiKingsFan]

It's not like the front court is doing any better, you got Lopez and Amare, and Frye killing us. Nash is hitting everything shot he takes it seems like. So it's not just Martin, it's TEAM DEFENSE that's killing us. We're just not a defensive team.

 

[Showtime]

All Udoka does these days is pass up open shots and pump fake the offense into oblivion.

Damn, so the whole time, Udoka was the key to opening up the gates...

 

[AriesMar27]

Evans at -3, Martin at -19. Hmmm......

brockman +5, hawes -12, hilton -1.... greene -12 and he's our leading scorer right now...

 

[theclash4u5]

After back to back great games, Hawes has completely disappeared again. Evans is our leading rebounder...

 

[Showtime]

brockman +5, hawes -12, hilton -1.... greene -12 and he's our leading scorer right now...

It's pretty clear Martin has been horrible on defense and hasn't contributed much on offense.

 

[=LarryLegend=]

Its nice to see Reke back to rebounding at a high rate again!

 

[rainmaker]

It's not like the front court is doing any better, you got Lopez and Amare, and Frye killing us. Nash is hitting everything shot he takes it seems like. So it's not just Martin, it's TEAM DEFENSE that's killing us. We're just not a defensive team.

But our team defense and overall hustle is better without Kevin. Thats pretty clear. He isn't even making an effort on that end.

 

[BigboiKingsFan]

If your point guard is your leading rebounder, I'm pretty sure that's not a good thing.

 

[swisshh]

Damn, so the whole time, Udoka was the key to opening up the gates...

Kevin's D puts the wind into Morrowind.

 

[rainmaker]

I'm sitting here waiting for Kevin to prove his critics wrong, and really come out with energy and try to impact the game every way possible. Instead, we are getting an incredibly passive, and soft 11M player not contributing at all.

 

[AriesMar27]

There's a reason you are labeled a Tyreke hater, son....for the same reason I am labeled a Kobe hater.

Spoiler

because kobe isnt a pg? i'll laugh if thats the straw that breaks the camels back.

who calls you a kobe hater? this is a kings fan website, arent they all kobe haters here? well except for me, im a double agent lakers fan.

 

[steelevt]

It's not like the front court is doing any better, you got Lopez and Amare, and Frye killing us. Nash is hitting everything shot he takes it seems like. So it's not just Martin, it's TEAM DEFENSE that's killing us. We're just not a defensive team.

that is too logical to be true, its all martins fault. even though he isnt guarding nash amare or lopez somehow its all his fault

 

[annihilator_33]

Damn, so the whole time, Udoka was the key to opening up the gates...

man, i remember putting in hours and hours into oblivion, hell of a game

 

[BigboiKingsFan]

But our team defense and overall hustle is better without Kevin. Thats pretty clear. He isn't even making an effort on that end.[/QUO

It may be better, but better doesn't translate into wins sometimes.