[Game] Kings vs. Spurs, 12/19/2021 3pm Pacific 6pm Eastern

[Tetsujin]

Metu with the hook. Dude having a classic revenge game

 

[kb02]

Kings going to score 60+ for the half, but the dispersion of points between the players is key. Easy shots = easy points. Efficiency.

 

[Turgenev]

Remind me why the Kings need Fox.

In the second half against Memphis we had no one who could create a shot at the rim. I didn't tick Fox in the recent 'Who would you not trade?' poll but he does have some skills that others on the team don't.

 

[kb02]

Jones black holed that

 

[Woot!]

hali is a pure gold. whoever tries to trade him will be cursed for life!

Between his play, face-of-the-franchise-type personality/leadership, and age (not 22 until the end of Feb), he's easily the last player I'd want to see leave Sacramento if I were making the personnel decisions.

 

[ShastaKingsFan]

One of the things I like about Doug, is that he gives his players a lot of positive energy. Not reluctant to show emotion and celebrate a good play during the action. That lifts a team spirit and culture

 

[steelevt]

I don’t know if Fox, in his prime, would ever be able to make others better the way Hali does already. Maybe in 3-5 yrs? Kings can’t wait 3-5 yrs.

honestly i dont know either, he has the ability to make the kings as a team better with his scoring and speed though (sometimes ty can be too unselfish). They are totally different players that "can" complement each other.

 

[Tetsujin]

Between his play, face-of-the-franchise-type personality/leadership, and age (not 22 until the end of Feb), he's easily the last player I'd want to see leave Sacramento if I were making the personnel decisions.

Pretty sure this is just a copy-paste of someone's post about Fox from last season

 

[HndsmCelt]

Kings going to score 60+ for the half, but the dispersion of points between the players is key. Easy shots = easy points. Efficiency.

It looks so easy when it's offense being created by the defense. That's the big thing that's going on in the court for the Kings, even the guys that are making mistakes on the offensive end are busting their ass on the other end.

 

[Woot!]

I only just started watching and see from the boxscore that Buddy appears to be having another Invisible Man game, though he's getting tons of minutes.

What's yer take on what's sup with him? Good news is that he's not forcing shots...

 

[miltonap]

One of the things I like about Doug, is that he gives his players a lot of positive energy. Not reluctant to show emotion and celebrate a good play during the action. That lifts a team spirit and culture

Yes ! it gives the players motivation and confidence. Doug is awesome I think he'd make a great coach and I bet the players would love him

 

[Turgenev]

Like Doug's voice as a coach. Granted, only a small thing. And most will look good vs Walton. But you never heard Luke yelling 'Stay down, stay down' from the bench.

 

[Groovygreg]

In the second half against Memphis we had no one who could create a shot at the rim. I didn't tick Fox in the recent 'Who would you not trade?' poll but he does have some skills that others on the team don't.

The Kings’ reliance on Fox has gotten the franchise nowhere. Truthfully, I think the team plays better without him.

 

[kb02]

honestly i dont know either, he has the ability to make the kings as a team better with his scoring and speed though (sometimes ty can be too unselfish). They are totally different players that "can" complement each other.

I know Hali can play with Fox or anyone else. I don’t know if Fox can do the same. My read has been and continues to be the same: Fox needs others to play around him to be at his best. If the Kings double down on Fox, best case is an Iverson lead 76ers or a Russ lead, post KD, pre-George Okc team. Basically the Kings would need to keep Buddy, trade for Thybulle, add Valincunas, another banger, n shooters. That would be a horrible decision if they went that way.

 

[kb02]

The Kings’ reliance on Fox has gotten the franchise nowhere. Truthfully, I think the team plays better without him.

Undoubtedly.

 

[Groovygreg]

Halliburton with 10 assists at the half.

 

[krylia sovetov]

To be fair, Kings fans said this about Fox last season and now they can't wait to throw him on the first bus out of town.

i didn't

 

[SacTownKid]

The only thing I'd be concerned about is they relied on Jones a bit too much. We'll see if the Spurs change up their pnr defense on him in the 2nd half. Pop is going to have a meltdown giving up 14 to someone like him. The other concern is the Spurs did get their offense going eventually.

 

[Tetsujin]

i didn't

Err, I wasn't asking?

 

[Woot!]

Pretty sure this is just a copy-paste of someone's post about Fox from last season

Not mine. And my point isn't to come up with a sentiment that's never been offered about anyone.

Nor is this a diss on Fox, whom I'd love to see thrive in Sacramento. For that matter, it's not a diss on HB (my favorite player) or anyone else. It's love for Hali. A ridiculously likable kid with serious game who can play with anyone and will only get better.

 

[Tetsujin]

Maybe if we went "Oh cool! We have another good player to pair with our other good player!" instead of "Oh cool! We've got another good player, let's get rid of the other good player we've already got!", we wouldn't be on year 16 of a playoff drought?

 

[SacTownKid]

Maybe if we went "Oh cool! We have another good player to pair with our other good player!" instead of "Oh cool! We've got another good player, let's get rid of the other good player we've already got!", we wouldn't be on year 16 of a playoff drought?

Well, when Haliburton isn't capable of getting his team a needed 25 points a night because a defense plays into him off pick and roll they can start hating him too, lol. Typical Kings fans, always ready to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

 

[kb02]

Not mine. And my point isn't to come up with a sentiment that's never been offered about anyone.

Nor is this a diss on Fox, whom I'd love to see thrive in Sacramento. For that matter, it's not a diss on HB (my favorite player) or anyone else. It's love for Hali. A ridiculously likable kid with serious game who can play with anyone and will only get better.

When I’ve questioned Fox’s ceiling or Holmes’ best role, some members read it as a diss. Saying Fox has a sometimes all star ceiling or that Holmes best role is a bench big like Harrell is not saying they suck.

 

[Tetsujin]

Not mine. And my point isn't to come up with a sentiment that's never been offered about anyone.

Nor is this a diss on Fox, whom I'd love to see thrive in Sacramento. For that matter, it's not a diss on HB (my favorite player) or anyone else. It's love for Hali. A ridiculously likable kid with serious game who can play with anyone and will only get better.

My issue here is that Tyrese is like Draymond Green, an absolutely fantastic, charismatic glue guy. The thing is that if you ask Draymond to go out and win you a game, 9 times out of 10, he won't be able to do it on his own (hence the last two Warriors seasons). You surround him with other good players and he'll make those good players look great. That's currently Tyrese.

 

[Kingster]

That is easily the best half of basketball we've seen from Metu. Please double it and make it a full game and the Kings will probably win this game.

 

[kb02]

Hali needs 7 boards in the 2h. Let’s go!

 

[HndsmCelt]

I hate 3rd quarters

 

[SacTownKid]

Poeltl has be given credit for how nonchalantly dirty he is.

 

[kb02]

Thompson was as slow as molasses on that gather

 

[Woot!]

My issue here is that Tyrese is like Draymond Green, an absolutely fantastic, charismatic glue guy. The thing is that if you ask Draymond to go out and win you a game, 9 times out of 10, he won't be able to do it on his own (hence the last two Warriors seasons). You surround him with other good players and he'll make those good players look great. That's currently Tyrese.

That's fine. I agree that Tyrese isn't a superstar. I'm not sure what point-you're-pushing-back-against-that-I'm-not-making.