[Game] Kings vs. Rockets - 25 FEB 2014, 22:00 EST/19:00 PST

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

Obviously he's not a guy who you can play 30 minutes because he plays too physical for today's standards.

And yet, there is a very vocal minority who want to start him.

 

[HereWeBoogie]

Another day, another season high given up to a guard

 

[King-Da-Yah]

And he's worse than most. There. Now we are all enlightened. What I'd like to hear is a solution. It's easy to *****. It's more difficult to find a solution.

I am very curious as to what this expletive is. Please PM me.

 

[Livinthedream]

BMac is always great in garbage time

Because he's lot better than the opposing teams 3rd guards. It's a good sign.

 

[peacelate]

And yet, there is a very vocal minority who want to start him.

Didn't say I wanted him to start.

 

[Bricklayer]

Obviously he's not a guy who you can play 30 minutes because he plays too physical for today's standards.

Oh, he's had a couple of seasons in the last few where he came close for stretches...and all he does when given those sorts of minutes is grab 11 reb a game.

 

[Gilles]

Honestly don't care about any of this.

He needs to be a leader on the floor before he starts demanding things from the organization. Getting yourself thrown out of the game when YOUR team is getting blown out is weak as hell. You suck it up and make your teammates follow your lead by not mailing it in. He did the exact opposite.

It's even MORE stupid considering the fact Malone was over talking with the refs. It's not like he wasn't going to battle for Cuz.

Brick is right: someone should tell him, that getting selected to the All-Star team starts from the second part of the previous season. That seems to be the only thing that gets him really focused.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

Didn't say I wanted him to start.

Didn't say you did.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

Oh, he's had a couple of seasons in the last few where he came close for stretches...and all he does when given those sorts of minutes is grab 11 reb a game.

Evans is a specialist, who is elite at what he does, when he's allowed to only have to do that. The Kings, as constructed, cannot afford to let him get away with only doing that one thing.

 

[randymoss1881]

I'm going to push back a little on this: I don't know anything about DeMarcus Cousins' specific circumstance, but I know a lot of men from similar backgrounds, who grew up under similar circumstances, and none of them were still overgrown babies at twenty-three. My own best friend grew up under similar circumstances, only instead of rural Alabama, it was rural Maryland.

Is it fair to blame the behavior of a twenty-three year-old on his family? No, but I do think it's fair to call his upbringing into question when a twenty-three year-old who behaves as he does on the court doesn't think that there's anything wrong with it. TTBOMK, no one from his family, or anywhere in his life outside of basketball has ever addressed his behavior; no one has ever said anything to the effect of, "I don't know what's going on with DeMarcus, but that's not how he was raised." It's not completely unreasonable to wonder whether he was brought up to think that how he acts on the court is okay?

That's what I was trying to say maybe I said it wrong. Simply someone close to him has to just say what you are doing is wrong.

 

[Kingsfan23]

I'm not as concerned with Cuz. Game was essentially over and was upset his team was blitzed

 

[jcwkings]

I'm not as concerned with Cuz. Game was essentially over and was upset his team was blitzed

Clearly this game was out of hand in a lost season, but the fact that our franchise centerpiece is a ticking timebomb everytime he steps on the floor should concern you.

 

[Kingsfan23]

I am very curious as to what this expletive is. Please PM me.

Starts with a b and ends with tch

 

[Arkitect]

I don't get the Cuz backlash. This is his first ejection all year. He now joins the 10% of the league that has been ejected at least once this year. Considering he was ejected 4 times last year, I would say it is an improvement.

 

[PurpleHaze]

I'm not as concerned with Cuz. Game was essentially over and was upset his team was blitzed

Narrow thinking, just like Cuz way of narrow thinking, if that's what it is. It certainly isn't big picture thinking. Because with one more tech Cuz will reach 15 and receive automatic one game suspension.

 

[Livinthedream]

I don't get the Cuz backlash. This is his first ejection all year. He now joins the 10% of the league that has been ejected at least once this year. Considering he was ejected 4 times last year, I would say it is an improvement.

The backlash is a little overboard. However, I'm personally disappointed at the complete melt down. Leaders shine during hard times. When we're down by 30 is when we need him to have the most composure and focus. He's not a leader. He's just the strongest personality on the team. Not sure how this get's resolved in the end.

 

[jcwkings]

I don't get the Cuz backlash. This is his first ejection all year. He now joins the 10% of the league that has been ejected at least once this year. Considering he was ejected 4 times last year, I would say it is an improvement.

My issues isn't with the ejection, its just with his attitude out there in general, he seemed to be showing at least some progress the first 2 or 3 months of the season, but in reality he was still complaining, moaning and pouting about every call that goes against him, he was just playing so good most overlooked it. The last month or so though he really has regressed back to what we had seen seasons 1-3. He complains about things like putting a forearm on a guy going up for a shot, and he continually looks perplexed every time he gets called for it. He must be the only player who's scouting reports reads "pee him off" as the primary way of stopping him.

 

[enigma99a]

Are you even watching or do you know nothing about basketball? When a player elevates and you take a forearm and shove him it's a foul. Furthermore, you have no idea what Cousins was saying to get the T.

That whole play is a microcosm of what is wrong with DMC. He plays bad D. Commits a stupid foul, then compounds it by getting a T.

Take off your purple tinted glasses for just a second so you can see the truth.

If we get Embiid, and DMC never grows up, I wonder how long the FO will wait.

 

[rainmaker]

I'm going to push back a little on this:

That's fair. You and I both appear to know people who've had it pretty rough growing up. I tend to believe however that at 23 you're pretty much responsible for your own actions and many guys who've had rough upbringings do a better job containing their emotions, even if one or both parents could be held up as the worst parental examples of the last century.

While his mom/upbringing does likely have an effect on who he is today, I personally am not using that as an excuse, nor are you as you pointed out. I'm not sure where exactly one draws the line between upbringing and personal responsibility, but I'm holding Cuz responsible. When you sign a max contract, your accountability levels and responsibility as the face of the franchise increases. I'm just flat out disappointed in the guy. Even had his coach arguing for him and he still flipped his lid.

 

[HereWeBoogie]

If we get Embiid, and DMC never grows up, I wonder how long the FO will wait.

No need to wonder, we won't get Embiid

 

[enigma99a]

No need to wonder, we won't get Embiid

Why not? We could get the #1 pick. In 2009 we should have had #1 but got #4.

I'll take Embiid, and a new PF to start with a Cousins trade. I think there comes a time when you say, Cousins might have strong stats, but it's time to start winning games. No more locker room fights and whining and complaining. I am so sick of it. We've got the worst record in the West

I think it's one thing to try hard and lose, but I think fan support will be waining if the team continues to play with a lack of professionalism and effort.

 

[randymoss1881]

Let's not start this DMC trade stuff it's not happening. And we won't get embiid.

 

[Gilles]

Why not? We could get the #1 pick. In 2009 we should have had #1 but got #4.

I'll take Embiid, and a new PF to start with a Cousins trade. I think there comes a time when you say, Cousins might have strong stats, but it's time to start winning games. No more locker room fights and whining and complaining. I am so sick of it. We've got the worst record in the West

I think it's one thing to try hard and lose, but I think fan support will be waining if the team continues to play with a lack of professionalism and effort.

Embiid is very talented, but he's still making a lot of mistakes right now, so you will have to postpone winning games for 2-3 years.

 

[Bricklayer]

Why not? We could get the #1 pick. In 2009 we should have had #1 but got #4.

I'll take Embiid, and a new PF to start with a Cousins trade. I think there comes a time when you say, Cousins might have strong stats, but it's time to start winning games. No more locker room fights and whining and complaining. I am so sick of it. We've got the worst record in the West

I think it's one thing to try hard and lose, but I think fan support will be waining if the team continues to play with a lack of professionalism and effort.

Asinine.

You do NOT trade established young stars to make room for draft picks. Basically ever. The very high end of your draft pick is that ooh, MAYBE he will one day be as good as the guy we traded away to make room for him. Congrats. And more likely Cousins will be wiping his ass with him for the next 10 years.

If we get a chance to take Embid, either a) he can play next to Cousins, or b) he comes in and does Cousins' dirty laundry until such point that he's not being ruined in every single practice he has against him.

 

[The Chico]

IF Demarcus Cousins does not understand why he is not a All-Star? or Team USA has him on the bottom of the list to make the team? Well look no further than last night.... HE will never be a all-star, or make team USA with his cry baby attitude. makes the league and the team look bad. He has to grow up which I do not see happening anytime soon. He is what he is now Sad!!!

 

[New Era]

Asinine.

You do NOT trade established young stars to make room for draft picks. Basically ever. The very high end of your draft pick is that ooh, MAYBE he will one day be as good as the guy we traded away to make room for him. Congrats. And more likely Cousins will be wiping his ass with him for the next 10 years.

If we get a chance to take Embid, either a) he can play next to Cousins, or b) he comes in and does Cousins' dirty laundry until such point that he's not being ruined in every single practice he has against him.

I'm starting to really believe that you are DMC's agent or something! It's amazing how much you come to his defense!

 

[enigma99a]

Asinine.

You do NOT trade established young stars to make room for draft picks. Basically ever. The very high end of your draft pick is that ooh, MAYBE he will one day be as good as the guy we traded away to make room for him. Congrats. And more likely Cousins will be wiping his ass with him for the next 10 years.

If we get a chance to take Embid, either a) he can play next to Cousins, or b) he comes in and does Cousins' dirty laundry until such point that he's not being ruined in every single practice he has against him.

No, I think you misunderstood. I meant trade for an All-Star PF and put that with Embiid. What's wrong with that? Of course unless we get the #1 pick, Embiid will be gone and all this talk is for nothing

Because right now we have the most dominant center in the entire league, with with worst record so something needs to be done. Unless you enjoy being in last place

 

[Kingster]

i dont know if any of you guys caught it, but at the end of the last timeout cousins was talking to harden, if my lip reading was correct he said something to effect of "im gonna foul you real hard" you could tell by cuz's demeanor and hardens reaction that it was inflammatory. The rest of the quarter was history.

What happened was that with about 4:30 left in the first quarter on a bang-bang play Cousins set a screen and Harden actually threw Cousins to the floor like a trash can. No foul was called. Cousins wasn't in the mood to play after that. Probably not before it either.

 

[VF21]

What happened was that with about 4:30 left in the first quarter on a bang-bang play Cousins set a screen and Harden actually threw Cousins to the floor like a trash can. No foul was called. Cousins wasn't in the mood to play after that. Probably not before it either.

Thank you for the explanation. I didn't see the first half, so knowing this clears up at least one question I had.