[Game] Kings vs. Lakers, 10/29/2023 6pm Pacific 9pm Eastern

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

I could not agree more with this - this has been my theory for a couple years. I'll also say the mods here are extremely tolerant of such behavior - much more gracious than I would be!

The thing is, we're not actually trying to discourage people from being critical, contrary to the opinions of a vocal minority. It's just that, when your criticism is rarely/never constructive, and you're only commenting when the Kings are losing, we'd like to minimize that. Like, for example, @SLAB is everyone's favorite grouch: he largely gets a pass for his complaining because everybody knows that he "keeps that same energy," as the kids say, rain or shine (Plus, he mostly only goes off the deep end when it's the Warriors, anyway). Posters like @Kingster and @sactowndog get a lot of grace, as well: they may be critical of the team, but they're not just critical after losses. They may not have the most popular opinions, but I don't think that there are many who question their objectivity.

tl;dr - Criticism is fine. Complaining/negativity is (mostly) fine. Only coming around to complain... not so fine.

 

[ESP47]

I could not agree more with this - this has been my theory for a couple years. I'll also say the mods here are extremely tolerant of such behavior - much more gracious than I would be!

A while ago I got to thinking about this, because it really does seem to be pronounced among Kings fans - the persistent extreme negativity, it's beyond a typical beleaguered Cleveland Browns fan for example. I reversed the causality as a thought experiment: what if it wasn't the team making the fans negative, but the fans being negative in their own right. This made much more sense, because as we began to get good over the past couple years, and a legitimate light at the end of the tunnel began to appear - that light seemed allergic to some fans - who may or may not happen to post here occasionally. At that point it became clear to me that over the years the Kings has attracted some fans with a really negative mentality, and they were merely using a bad team as an excuse to look at things negatively. Doesn't quite work as well when you have actual hope and the team is objectively becoming good.

Go read any other sports forum and you'll see that not only is this one modded stricter than 99% of the rest, but the fans of teams who have been way more successful than the Kings in the last 20 years are just as pessimistic as our fans are.

 

[Vinny Basketballerino]

But what if you are a frustration eater - and your fandom just leads to more lasagna?

I fear that my enemies have found my weakness and are exploiting it in every debate. I admit - you've found the cheat code on Vinny Basketballerino's NBA 2K23.

I surrender, on condition of sauce, of course.

 

[mrlaze]

The mods here are some of the strictest I've come across. That's fine, they are incharge. I like it here, I can follow the rules.

Im fine with always negative posters simply because I'm also fine with always optimistic posters.

Theres a block user feature that helps me weed out people I dont need to hear from. Which is usually overly emotional people with bad takes.

 

[Turgenev]

Critical thinking/ critical appraisal is not just negative, it can result in positive feedback as well.

I think it's different to say someone is critical after both wins and losses and someone is negative after both wins and losses. Just because someone is always negative doesn't make them a good critic.

 

[sactowndog]

The thing is, we're not actually trying to discourage people from being critical, contrary to the opinions of a vocal minority. It's just that, when your criticism is rarely/never constructive, and you're only commenting when the Kings are losing, we'd like to minimize that. Like, for example, @SLAB is everyone's favorite grouch: he largely gets a pass for his complaining because everybody knows that he "keeps that same energy," as the kids say, rain or shine (Plus, he mostly only goes off the deep end when it's the Warriors, anyway). Posters like @Kingster and @sactowndog get a lot of grace, as well: they may be critical of the team, but they're not just critical after losses. They may not have the most popular opinions, but I don't think that there are many who question their objectivity.

tl;dr - Criticism is fine. Complaining/negativity is (mostly) fine. Only coming around to complain... not so fine.

Damn thanks.

 

[hrdboild]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1719082063599636714

It's worth noting that this is the aspect of the game that some were predicting a year ago Keegan would never figure out in the NBA. He was mostly a catch and shoot guy at Iowa and mostly a catch and shoot guy with the Kings last season. The pull-up three is the most dangerous shot in basketball. It's what elevates players from solid scorers to elite scorers. His percentages are down right now as he's attempting much more difficult shots than he was last year. It may take him a little while to figure out when it's a good shot and when it's a force but leaning more into self creation already in just his second season after showing last year that he is elite as a catch and shoot option is a very good sign for his future development.

 

[midtowner]

It's worth noting that this is the aspect of the game that some were predicting a year ago Keegan would never figure out in the NBA. He was mostly a catch and shoot guy at Iowa and mostly a catch and shoot guy with the Kings last season. The pull-up three is the most dangerous shot in basketball. It's what elevates players from solid scorers to elite scorers. His percentages are down right now as he's attempting much more difficult shots than he was last year. It may take him a little while to figure out when it's a good shot and when it's a force but leaning more into self creation already in just his second season after showing last year that he is elite as a catch and shoot option is a very good sign for his future development.

Yup - and he ain’t missing by much. Dialing it in!!!