Kings/Sonics notes: Petrie: Peja has not reiterated his trade request

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SEATTLE - It was less than a year ago that Peja Stojakovic, coming off a frustrating playoff exit and stung by criticism of his play and his heart, rocked the Kings' world by suggesting they trade him.



Almost a year later, this update: Still playing in purple. OAS_AD('Button20');


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"I think he's pretty happy," team executive Geoff Petrie said Tuesday evening before Stojakovic assumed his familiar starting role at small forward in the Kings' playoff game against the Seattle SuperSonics and scored 38 points in a 122-118 elimination loss.

"He hasn't said anything to indicate otherwise," Petrie said.

Despite Stojakovic's rather calm insistence that he and the Kings would be better off with a parting of ways, it was never close to happening. Petrie told his top scorer last summer he had no intention of trading him, and the executive says the two haven't had a substantive conversation about it since then, though they've talked many times.

Publicly, Stojakovic has dropped the subject.

Stojakovic last summer skipped the Olympics, became a first-time father, served a mandatory shift in the Greek army and reported to the Kings' training camp in less than stellar shape. He also used the occasion of his return to say he and Chris Webber had no major issues, though it was clear Stojakovic had been hurt by Webber's post-playoff insinuation that he and Vlade

Divac, among others, weren't tough enough to win.

But the ensuing season has been mostly controversy-free, if not Stojakovic's finest work all around. And despite drops in the Serb native's shooting percentages and injuries that limited him to 66 games, Webber's trade to Philadelphia underscored the idea that the Kings plan to move forward with Stojakovic as a foundational player.

"He's a guy who is going to average 20 points a game in the league for quite a few more years," Petrie said. "I think he has some things he can improve on, but he's still a very, very fine player."

A long memory

Mike Bibby won't forget how the Sonics ran their collective mouths in this first round.



The Kings guard went against his normally quiet nature before Game 5, venting mostly about Sonics big men Jerome James and Reggie Evans. Both said plenty about the Kings, from questioning their toughness to flat-out calling them babies.

Bibby liked none of it.

"They talk a lot of (stuff)," Bibby said. "I'm upset that they're talking like that. It's still the first round. It ain't over yet. And the people that are talking don't need to be talking."

Of James, he said, "Four games doesn't make you a star."

And of Evans: "Reggie Evans, (who's) going out there and fouling, flopping. He has no right to talk. He doesn't score any baskets. He goes out there and fouls."

James, the Sonics' center who was cut by the Kings in 2000, has been given the speaking platform because of his elevated play. His scoring average has nearly quadrupled from his career mark to the postseason. But the validity of his tales was questioned again.

Kings coach Rick Adelman questioned James' story of his Sacramento departure, with James saying he was given a garbage bag to pack his stuff on the way out and Adelman denying it.

Sunday, James - who owns a home in Sacramento close to Bibby's - said he and Bibby were "cool," and that he'd had Bibby over for barbecues during the summer.

Bibby laughed at the notion.

"Yeah, we live in the same neighborhood, but I don't really know the guy," Bibby said. "I've never been to his house before. He's never been to mine."

J-Will strikes

Who said Jason Williams is a bad guy? Not Kings media relations assistant Chris Clark.



Williams - a former King now playing for the Memphis Grizzlies - was verbally abusive to a Memphis Commercial

Appeal columnist. Upset when he thought some of his comments were taken out of context in a story, Williams took a pen out of writer Geoff Calkins' hands twice, then told him, "You ain't writing nothing, homeboy" while trying to keep him from interviewing other Grizzlies.

Clark, though, remembers a different side of J-Will. In 2001, Clark made food runs to McDonald's for Williams before every game, bringing the hefty order of 20 chicken nuggets, a large fries and two apple pies. Every time, Williams would give Clark $75 and let him the keep the change. And, yes, Clark said Williams would eat almost all of it.

"He was great to me," Clark said.

What, Corliss worry?

Amid the pregame tension in the locker room, there was Corliss Williamson, wearing a huge grin on his face. Win or lose, the veteran forward was scheduled to board a red-eye to Little Rock, Ark., for the birth of his son after Game 4.



If the Kings had won Tuesday, the plan was to return to Sacramento on Thursday. Now he'll have time to spend with his wife Michelle and their newborn.

"They (family members) are picking me up at the airport, and as soon as I get to the hospital, the baby is going to be born," Williamson said. "Michelle is waiting for me. But it hasn't been hard to concentrate at all. I've been playing basketball for so long, you learn how to focus on what you have to do." Smiling, he added, "but I am definitely excited
 
I guess the Peja thing is comforting.....

A long memory

Mike Bibby won't forget how the Sonics ran their collective mouths in this first round.



The Kings guard went against his normally quiet nature before Game 5, venting mostly about Sonics big men Jerome James and Reggie Evans. Both said plenty about the Kings, from questioning their toughness to flat-out calling them babies.

Bibby liked none of it.

"They talk a lot of (stuff)," Bibby said. "I'm upset that they're talking like that. It's still the first round. It ain't over yet. And the people that are talking don't need to be talking."

Of James, he said, "Four games doesn't make you a star."

And of Evans: "Reggie Evans, (who's) going out there and fouling, flopping. He has no right to talk. He doesn't score any baskets. He goes out there and fouls."

James, the Sonics' center who was cut by the Kings in 2000, has been given the speaking platform because of his elevated play. His scoring average has nearly quadrupled from his career mark to the postseason. But the validity of his tales was questioned again.

Kings coach Rick Adelman questioned James' story of his Sacramento departure, with James saying he was given a garbage bag to pack his stuff on the way out and Adelman denying it.

Sunday, James - who owns a home in Sacramento close to Bibby's - said he and Bibby were "cool," and that he'd had Bibby over for barbecues during the summer.

Bibby laughed at the notion.

"Yeah, we live in the same neighborhood, but I don't really know the guy," Bibby said. "I've never been to his house before. He's never been to mine."

^^^that made my day :)

I have no problem with Jerome James but come on...hun you had 4 great games and now you are talking ****...please...lol....I don't expect that to continue throught the Sonics PO run....I also expect Ray Allen to melt a bit...if it weren't for him they'd still be playing in this series...as for Reggie Evans I'm not gonna even comment on him cuz I really think Mike said it all....lol....

Shame on them for pissing Mike Bibby off cuz he sure the hell WILL NOT forget it and it will no doubtedly come back to haunt them in their basketball futures :)
 
iheartBrad said:
I guess the Peja thing is comforting.....

Or not. No player should be above the team--I don't care who you are (Ok, unless if you are the second coming, or maybe Tim Duncan, Shaq etc..)...and this is exactly what has been insinuated.
 
^^to tell you the truth I didn't read what they wrote about Peja...heh...I commented based on one sentence I read in another article :/
 
AleksandarN said:
http://www.sacbee.com/content/sports/basketball/kings/story/12834543p-13684515c.html




James, the Sonics' center who was cut by the Kings in 2000, has been given the speaking platform because of his elevated play. His scoring average has nearly quadrupled from his career mark to the postseason. But the validity of his tales was questioned again.

Kings coach Rick Adelman questioned James' story of his Sacramento departure, with James saying he was given a garbage bag to pack his stuff on the way out and Adelman denying it.

Sunday, James - who owns a home in Sacramento close to Bibby's - said he and Bibby were "cool," and that he'd had Bibby over for barbecues during the summer.

Bibby laughed at the notion.

"Yeah, we live in the same neighborhood, but I don't really know the guy," Bibby said. "I've never been to his house before. He's never been to mine."

is it my imagination, or is James a little psychotic.... making up stories left and right??? what is up with that?
 
big kid making up stories and probably nearly believing them. The stupid part is having thecahones to actually make these things very public. One thing to make up a story about your past and tell a friend, quite another to tell the whole world including the person you are making up stories about.
 
Reggie Evans and Jerome James should shut up. They will be swept in the second round by the spurs.
 
^^ yeah. jerome james is really pissing me off. and evans, i hate it cause he talks a lot of ("stuff").

because i hate san antonio (for personal reasons), i'd like the sonics to win that series (yes, i'm assuming san antonio beats denver --i HOPE not, but they most likely will). i just don't like all the trash talk going on. especially since these guys are "no-name" guys. ugh.

also, when i calmed down after the loss last night, i figured ray is a classy guy. i just hated him for killing us, but i don't think he has said something stupid in the series. (the pay us for competing internationally was stupid, but non-kings related) i mean, he doesn't talk trash eventhough he's the one with the most "right" to do so.
 
SA is gonna make my day when they sweep these scrubs! James is gonna be a non factor against TD! yall already know the situation between Bowen and Ray Allen! I would like to see this Sonics team when Ray Allen signs somewhere else.. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Vlad said:
Reggie Evans and Jerome James should shut up. They will be swept in the second round by the spurs.
My thoughts exactly. There is no way Allen will light up anything with Bruce Bowen on his tail.
 
ReinadelosReys said:
Or not. No player should be above the team--I don't care who you are (Ok, unless if you are the second coming, or maybe Tim Duncan, Shaq etc..)...and this is exactly what has been insinuated.
I don't think that part was meant to be that Pedja is ahead of the whole team. It just said that Pedja haven't talked about the trade request anymore and Petrie thinks he's a "very, very fine player." If you're still thinking of the Webb trade, I don't think the trade had to do with Pedja.


Congrats to Corliss and his wife. :)


I forgot, Jerome still lives in Sac during the offseason. But I didn't know he was in the same neighborhood as Bibby.:eek:
 
Bibby_10 said:
My thoughts exactly. There is no way Allen will light up anything with Bruce Bowen on his tail.
Allen vs Bowen should be fun. :D I can't believe those two were born in Merced, CA.
 
Twix said:
Allen vs Bowen should be fun. :D I can't believe those two were born in Merced, CA.

Really...i live 1/2 hr. from there....both of them....wow...learn somethin new every day.
 
ReinadelosReys said:
Or not. No player should be above the team--I don't care who you are (Ok, unless if you are the second coming, or maybe Tim Duncan, Shaq etc..)...and this is exactly what has been insinuated.
Sorry, I didn't see anything in the article that I interpreted that way.

I guess its safe to assume Bibby won't be going to anymore BBQ's at JJ's house?;)
 
Twix said:
Allen vs Bowen should be fun. :D I can't believe those two were born in Merced, CA.

Seriously? I wonder if we can get him to sign in Sacramento next year for a decent salary just to be closer to home? ;X
 
Twix said:
I don't think that part was meant to be that Pedja is ahead of the whole team. It just said that Pedja haven't talked about the trade request anymore and Petrie thinks he's a "very, very fine player." If you're still thinking of the Webb trade, I don't think the trade had to do with Pedja.

kennadog said:
Sorry, I didn't see anything in the article that I interpreted that way.

There is more than meets the eye....That's all I want to say without going on a 3 page diatribe on this subject that is probably going to be beaten with a stick all summer.
 
ReinadelosReys said:
There is more than meets the eye....That's all I want to say without going on a 3 page diatribe on this subject that is probably going to be beaten with a stick all summer.
Um... summer has started for us already and it's going to be a long one. Please start beating the stick regarding this.
 
ultraman206 said:
Um... summer has started for us already and it's going to be a long one. Please start beating the stick regarding this.

I'm not sure I saw it here, but its no doubt the underlying icky feeling one gets at times that Geoff Petrie plays favorites with Peja and evaluates him (or fails to evaluate him actually) on a different scale from anybody else because he is Peja's mentor. I called it nepotism in another thread, and that's pretty much the sickly little fear. Peja does not "need to go" or anything so drastic, but if your GM refuses to even consider it despite repeated failure because of personal feelings, that's just icky and a real problem.
 
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There is no reason to speculate that maybe Petrie is partial when it comes to Peja and hence may not act in the best interest of the Kings. GP has always been like this when it comes to questions about trading any Kings player. He makes it a point that no player would feel that he is being traded until the actual deal goes through. He does not want the players to go through the trade rumours that he experieinced as a player (from old Sacbee interview). This is the reason you don't hear a single peep about any of the trades until it is done.

When Webber was here, GP always maintained that Webber was an integral part of the Kings and he is not trading him. But when the chance came to dump the big contract of Webber and gain some flexibility, he made the move. (He also used this as a chance to see if Peja can work as the first option on offense. Hopefully he has realized by now that Peja is best suited as a premier second banana) Similarly, he said he was intent on resigning Vlade, who is a close friend, but let him go when the price tag was high. Quite frankly, I think all this hullabaloo is just an "irrational fear" of people who don't think much of Peja. I maybe wrong though. I may not always agree with what Petrie does, but I respect the guy's integrity as a GM.
 
coolhandluke said:
There is no reason to speculate that maybe Petrie is partial when it comes to Peja and hence may not act in the best interest of the Kings. GP has always been like this when it comes to questions about trading any Kings player. He makes it a point that no player would feel that he is being traded until the actual deal goes through. He does not want the players to go through the trade rumours that he experieinced as a player (from old Sacbee interview). This is the reason you don't hear a single peep about any of the trades until it is done.

When Webber was here, GP always maintained that Webber was an integral part of the Kings and he is not trading him. But when the chance came to dump the big contract of Webber and gain some flexibility, he made the move. (He also used this as a chance to see if Peja can work as the first option on offense. Hopefully he has realized by now that Peja is best suited as a premier second banana) Similarly, he said he was intent on resigning Vlade, who is a close friend, but let him go when the price tag was high. Quite frankly, I think all this hullabaloo is just an "irrational fear" of people who don't think much of Peja. I maybe wrong though. I may not always agree with what Petrie does, but I respect the guy's integrity as a GM.
This is a good point, but if you really wanted to try and decipher Petrie's intentions for Peđa, then look at his comments for certainty. When Peđa requested a trade last summer, Petrie said "we will not trade him." When people asked about Webber he said, "we have no plans to trade him." If you really want to know Petrie's position, look for comments like those that leave open the possibility of a change in plans. My guess is that he is nearly as likely to trade Stojakovic now as he was to trade Webber last summer.
 
Bricklayer said:
I'm not sure I saw it here, but its no doubt the underlying icky feeling one gets at times that Geoff Petrie plays favorites with Peja and evaluates him (or fails to evaluate him actually) on a different scale from anybody else because he is Peja's mentor. I called it nepotism in another thread, and that's pretty much the sickly little fear. Peja does not "need to go" or anything so drastic, but if your GM refuses to even consider it despite repeated failure because of personal feelings, that's just icky and a real problem.

GP is setting you up big time for a summer shocker. :)
 
Twix said:
I don't think that part was meant to be that Pedja is ahead of the whole team. It just said that Pedja haven't talked about the trade request anymore and Petrie thinks he's a "very, very fine player." If you're still thinking of the Webb trade, I don't think the trade had to do with Pedja.


Congrats to Corliss and his wife. :)


I forgot, Jerome still lives in Sac during the offseason. But I didn't know he was in the same neighborhood as Bibby.:eek:

I live 2 minutes away... I should go TP Jerome's house... :D
 
GP doesn't trade in trade rumors, which I appreciate. On a personal level, I don't think he wanted to let Vlade, Chris or Doug go. I take him a this word when he said the Webber trade was the hardest decision he's ever had to make. I thought he was going to cry on TV. Webber's was the contract the team needed to get rid of, especially in light of his knee.

However much he likes Peja, I have no doubt he'd trade Peja given the right set of circumstances. With only 2 yrs left on a low-salary contract on a still young player, I wouldn't have traded Peja either at that point. Then and now, Peja just had far more upside as a player or a trade piece than Webber. He will have an expiring contract this next year, which will make him a very attractive trade piece, if GP decides that is what must happen.
 
If Bibby did not go to Jerome's house for a BBQ, that seems to make James a habitual liar...this is getting weird.
 
Bartking said:
If Bibby did not go to Jerome's house for a BBQ, that seems to make James a habitual liar...this is getting weird.
Exactly what I thought. Really bizarre. And sort of creepy. :eek:
 
James is a pathological liar. Period. I don't know what he has been taking but he needs to back away from it.

Making up stories left and right. Geez.
 
At this point, it doesn't matter that Peja says he would like to stay. Unfortunately, I think he pretty much blew his last chance. His final spark was too little, too late (and was rather pathetic considering the mountainous rep stacked against him).

Unless Peja makes some kind of commitment to the Kings on expanding his game in the summer, there's no reasonable expectation for him to get better. If he comes out with a post game or passing game, then I think he should be given another shot. Otherwise, holding onto him would be for nothing but pure sentimentality. He's had too many chances. If he adds more facets to his offense while keeping on with average defense, that may be enough to open up things for him in crunch time. He's sure not getting it done based on his "will" to win.
 
Zyphen said:
At this point, it doesn't matter that Peja says he would like to stay. Unfortunately, I think he pretty much blew his last chance. His final spark was too little, too late (and was rather pathetic considering the mountainous rep stacked against him).

Unless Peja makes some kind of commitment to the Kings on expanding his game in the summer, there's no reasonable expectation for him to get better. If he comes out with a post game or passing game, then I think he should be given another shot. Otherwise, holding onto him would be for nothing but pure sentimentality. He's had too many chances. If he adds more facets to his offense while keeping on with average defense, that may be enough to open up things for him in crunch time. He's sure not getting it done based on his "will" to win.

So are you saying that keeping Pedja would be for nothing? That is totally underestimating how much he has meant to the Kings.
 
AleksandarN said:
So are you saying that keeping Pedja would be for nothing? That is totally underestimating how much he has meant to the Kings.

Unfortunately, over the last 12 months, the Kings have had numerous demonstrations of the lack of value they place in how much a player has “meant to the team"
 
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