Kings secure a possible 1 year option for Kenny Natt

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I heard it on the rise guys this morning. The Kings have secured the an option to be able to sign Kenny Natt to a 1 year deal worth a rumored 2 million. This does not mean he is signed, it means they secured the option to sign him for next year if they so choose.

Joe Maloof was quoted as saying if it was up to him he would keep him around at this point. Geoff Petrie has been very impressed with the way he has conducted himself and the team.
 
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1 year is about right. Miller, Thomas and Moore come off the books in 2010, so it is in our best interest to try and score as many lottery draft picks as we can while we wait for the franchise reboot.
 
1) my intiial reaction: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! :rolleyes:

Brought to you by the same guys who fired Rick, hired Muss, then hired Reggie right? You know the Maloofs and their wonderful coaching acumen, but even moreso, they likely want to save face. So how do you save face? You compound mistakes (and NOT that firing Reggie was a mistake, but ending up with this nimwit in his stead has just been pathetic).

I won't speculate too much on Geoff at this point, except to note that somebody in the front office was apparently raising a stink about Reggie's loose ship and confusing process with results, and hence we get a lifelong practice coach trying to dress up and play head coach. But hey, at least Natt has no talent or personality -- those kind of things can interfere with one's naptime you know.

2) my second reaction: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! :rolleyes:

3) my third reaction: it cannot hurt to line up the cheap option year just so you have it to use if...well if you have the I.Q. of slimemold. Unaccompanied by eye rolling quotes and earlier hints from Amick that they are actually serious I could almost call this prudent.
 
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This is fantastic news as I'm sure he had some pretty high profile coaching gigs lined up and now we don't have to worry about a bidding war.
 
Considering Maloof's are losing money in droves with half-empty Arco besides recession affecting other parts of their biz - this is no surprise. Keep Nothing Natt in place, cut your loses, hire established head coach from outside - pay the big bucks. Get ready Kings fans for back-to-back around 20 win seasons it would seem - uggh-ly!!
 
This is more evidence the franchise is looking forward to 2010. I think they are positioning themselves to save as much money as possible this season and next. Not a big surprise, really.
 
Yeah, if Natt stays around for the crap fest next year I'm not going to cry. But once we get some actual players it's time to get an actual coach.
 
One of the things in the article was something about Petrie wanting to see if the players wanted to improve and play team ball. By announcing that the team has the option for his services next year, his status of being a lame duck coach is removed possibly giving his authority a little more credibility.
 
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One of the things in the article was something about Petrie wanting to see if the players wanted to improve and play team ball. By announcing that the team has the option for his services next year, his status of being a lame duck coach is removed possibly giving his authority a little more credibility.
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I think you hit the nail right on the head. This is clearly supposed to be a wakeup call to the players who will be here next year.
 
I have no problem with this whatsoever. People need to quit being delusional.

The Kings suck. Period. End of assessment. At this point, trying to get a GOOD head coach to come here would require buckets and barrels of money - and even then they'd want guarantees up the kazoo.

We're much better off letting Natt mind the empty shell of a store until we've restocked and have something on the shelves people will pay for. And I, too, think this is a further indication that our target year is 2010, which I've thought all along was the plan.
 
Meh, I dont mind Natt, at least he knows his roll and dosent try to fool the fans. He knows he has to play the kids and he knows he has to get the vets value up. I'm sure Natt wants to play Hawes alot more then 15 mins a game its just we need to keep Miller Value up so he's doing the right thing. I want to see how Natt does after the trade deadline to really judge him.
I also like his no bull**** style and doghousing players untill they step there game up attitude. (like he did to beno) Reggie and Muss would of never had the balls to bench Beno like natt did.
 
OptimusRhyme said:
Meh, I dont mind Natt, at least he knows his roll and dosent try to fool the fans. He knows he has to play the kids and he knows he has to get the vets value up. I'm sure Natt wants to play Hawes alot more then 15 mins a game its just we need to keep Miller Value up so he's doing the right thing. I want to see how Natt does after the trade deadline to really judge him.
I also like his no bull**** style and doghousing players untill they step there game up attitude. (like he did to beno) Reggie and Muss would of never had the balls to bench Beno like natt did.
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I don't know where to start on this. Reggie Theus benched Kevin Martin for not playing defense. Theus benched John Salmons when Ron Artest returned from his absence. Theus almost never had a full roster to work with and played "the kids" repeatedly - starting JT at SF due to decimated team. Theus was ALL OVER Beno Udrih constantly, pulling him aside during games, yelling to him out on on the court endlessly. As a former star PG, Theus cut Beno probably less slack than any single member of the team - expecting so much of him as the would-be team QB. Natt the Nothing even admitted he GAVE UP on the Beno ragging strategy and just let him do what the PG thought was best for his game and confidence. Reggie had big enough balls as it was - it was other factors that got him dismissed. And if you believe Joe Maloof, it was Geoff Petrie who acted to fire him - because as GP said Kings - "needed a different voice." The Muss mess is a different story, since he mostly had a complete roster and was given a team that had just been in the playoffs only to drive it drunkenly off into a ditch.
 
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I don't know where to start on this. Reggie Theus benched Kevin Martin for not playing defense. Theus benched John Salmons when Ron Artest returned from his absence. Theus almost never had a full roster to work with and played "the kids" repeatedly - starting JT at SF due to decimated team. Theus was ALL OVER Beno Udrih constantly, pulling him aside during games, yelling to him out on on the court endlessly. As a former star PG, Theus cut Beno probably less slack than any single member of the team - expecting so much of him as the would-be team QB. Natt the Nothing even admitted he GAVE UP on the Beno ragging strategy and just let him do what the PG thought was best for his game and confidence. Reggie had big enough balls as it was - it was other factors that got him dismissed. And if you believe Joe Maloof, it was Geoff Petrie who acted to fire him - because as GP said Kings - "needed a different voice." The Muss mess is a different story, since he mostly had a complete roster and was given a team that had just been in the playoffs only to drive it drunkenly off into a ditch.
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It never fails to amaze me that these discussions always come down to the size of certain body parts. :rolleyes:

Theus didn't have a problem with benching players so that part of OR's comment is totally without basis in fact. Why Theus was fired, however, is pure speculation. I think we all know what was said publicly is about as relevant as the "irreconcilable differences" clause for divorces.

Having said that much, I applaud the last sentence of your post. Great analogy.
 
VF21 said:
I have no problem with this whatsoever. People need to quit being delusional.

The Kings suck. Period. End of assessment. At this point, trying to get a GOOD head coach to come here would require buckets and barrels of money - and even then they'd want guarantees up the kazoo.

We're much better off letting Natt mind the empty shell of a store until we've restocked and have something on the shelves people will pay for. And I, too, think this is a further indication that our target year is 2010, which I've thought all along was the plan.
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I agree for the most part, I just don't see the need to secure an option on him since I'm pretty sure he's not going anywhere else. And is 2 million the minimum for a coach these days, because that seems like a lot for a guy who's job is just to tread water.
 
I think the option was simply a public vote of confidence more than anything else, something to counter the "revolving door" or "lame duck" attitude some might be fostering.
 
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I think the option was simply a public vote of confidence more than anything else, something to counter the "revolving door" or "lame duck" attitude some might be fostering.
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Possibly, but I'd think a guaranteed deal might be more convincing, even then its proving a whole lot easier to replace the coach instead of the players.
 
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Why? It's merely an option. It doesn't change anything in actuality...
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I guess it will all be seen (by the fans) after the deadline. If he is still playing the old guys over some of the younger guys then we know.
 
Geez, its just an option. It gives him a little bit of support in front of the team and means other teams would have to have permission from the Kings, if they are interested in Natt after the season. I can't get all worked up over this. If they thought he was the guy for sure, they'd be talking contract.

Now if they give him an actual contract this summer.........
 
OptimusRhyme said:
Meh, I dont mind Natt, at least he knows his roll and dosent try to fool the fans. He knows he has to play the kids and he knows he has to get the vets value up. I'm sure Natt wants to play Hawes alot more then 15 mins a game its just we need to keep Miller Value up so he's doing the right thing. I want to see how Natt does after the trade deadline to really judge him.
I also like his no bull**** style and doghousing players untill they step there game up attitude. (like he did to beno) Reggie and Muss would of never had the balls to bench Beno like natt did.
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Actually Natt has shown no awareness of the need to play the kids at all. He's a fool, and the only chance he will quit being a fool is if Geoff basically manages him and strips him of as many chances to be foolish as possible by trading away players.

The thing here is ok, you are not going to chase a Flip Saunders or an Avery Johnson. Fine. How about chasing soem of the top assistants, guys that you foolishly rejected so that you could get this mess going? Shaw, Thibodeau etc. they may cost a little more, but they aren;t goiing to cost $10 mil a year, and they aren't going to need more than 2-3 yr deals. And there is a chance they might even be competent.


P.S. Geoff likes the job Natt is doing. That seems inexplicable. Unless the more obvious moves made by Geoff (hriing Coachie, moving Thompson into the starting lineup) are only the tip of the iceberg. Maybe he likes Natt because Geoff has been calling all these errant lineup shots for his own purposes (trades) and Natt has rolled over and been a good doggie? That flips Natt from being a fool to being a wimp, but its an alternate theory that could explain the inexplicable -- Natt as..."pliant" yesman after the stubborn arrogance of the Reggie mini-era.
 
I have no problems with Natt in the middle of games. I think he preaches a good message, which is basically the same as Theus. What im not to happy about is his end games. Not to say Theus was any better but i hate seeing the ball in Brad "Pillow Unicorn" Miller's hands with 2 seconds left to win the game...and if its not in his hands its in the others teams hands after a ridiculous turnover. I know that isn't exactly his fault, but it can be prevented with better play calling. Idk, im looking for change in our team right now....not the same crap that keeps us losing.
 
Agree ^^^^^^^

His play calling has been atrocious, his lineups even worse, and rotation absolutely horrible. The players aren't playing with any heart either. I know it's just an option......

Brick was right too.. Natt looks to be a yesman, how else could he garner praise for making the fans cringe at everything he does or does not do.. Which makes you wonder WHO is actually coaching this team?
 
Maybe the players play with no heart just knowing he'll be gone at the end of the year or sooner... This statement could make them rethink... They might realize they could be stuck with Natt and start playing with some more emotion/will.. Who knows really
 
I am one of the few people who actually knows what happened, when and why Musselman was fired. In very kind terms, Mussleman let Ron Artest off his leash(during a knicks game), and Bibby was very keen to the situation, and didn't like it. Bibby stops listening/caring, Artest is in a semi-contract year, made for a disaster. Bibby lost respect for the front office, and those bridges are never rebuilt. Bibby was traded to prevent a huge front office PR meltdown, and luckily he was. Catastrophe averted? Not quite. While Mussleman represent one side of the coaching coin, theus represents the other side. Suprise! Suprise! The ship bolts were tightened and Captain Theus was going to be the man in charge. Problem with that is he isn't the ones playing the game; the leader needs to be in uniform, otherwise its no good. Theus was good prep for Natt. Natt won't exchange a principle for a victory like mussleman, and won't exchange victory for principles like theus. Natt seems like the right person, if its ok with Kevin Martin, im ok with Natt.
 
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