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In a worst game of the 07/08 season - Kings lost to Raptors much worse than the score indicates despite winning the 1st quarter by 6 to drop to 15-22 which is 9th worst in the league, pretty much where we have been all season. Kings dropped to 4-13 on the road which might get worse considering the back to back set in Detroit and Indianapolis coming up in the next couple days. Kings are also 0-1 on the 3 game road trip and they are in the stretch of 6/7 games being on the road once again searching for order, identity, chemistry etc...
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There are good and bad deja vu situations in life. The game from last night goes in the category of horrible. It was vintage 06/07 Kings and actually only one man was missing - and a laptop with a power point presentation. Everything else was there including the half time koolaid that was taken after the 1st quarter. Lack of everything but individualism was there again.Makes You wonder - how much was Muss really to blame - well not really. I still think that he is only good enough to coach lakers but I am going to try to present this in an analogy if I may. There are good cooks and bad cooks. Neither can bake a cake out of garbage because if You put garbage in - You get the garbage out. Very simple. However, a good cook might be able to go trough that garbage and pick some things out and make something somewhat edible.
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More is less - sounds stupid but sometimes it is true and last night, it was as true as ever. At a random point in time once can only wear a pair of shoes, underwear, pair of sicks, pants, shirt, jacket, hat. If one is forced to wear 2 pair of shoes, longs and short pants, 2 hats and a robe at the same time - that person is not only badly dressed but it also looks ridiculous. Same goes for a basketball team good or bad one. You need scoring, shooting, rebounding, defense, setting screens, FT shooting and so on. You need a certain amount of everything at the same time on the floor. You need to have a certain balance to be successful. Last night we were balanced like one legged person with no arms walking a tight rope.
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Chemistry on the court is crucial. Kings have had bad experience with destroying the chemistry in 03/04 and last night similar thing happened just on a different scale. And there isn't really anyone to blame for it. It isn't an individual thing - it is a group thing. It takes time do develop the chemistry and cohesion but it can be ruined in one night. In the last couple weeks Kings looked like they were turning a corner not in terms of success this season or making a PO push but in terms of developing an identity, playing for each other and being competitive all the time. In 2 days a team that beat on of the best teams in the league and that hasn't been blown out in a while - turned to Minnesota Timberwolves.
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Role players are making the difference between a good team and a bad team assuming that stars will be stars. The Vlades and the Dougs of the world are what is crucial for a teams success. They do so much for others and it keeps a team together. The guys who do dirty work not because they have too but because they know that it is what is needed. The guys who don't have designed plays and who don't score 20 pts per game even though they could. We didn't have enough of them last night. We hardly had any and it showed in a bad, bad, way.
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Mike and Ron look like 5th wheel on a car and it isn't their fault at all. They don't fit here anymore at this stage in terms of what we need and what they need or deserve. We need hungry guys who want to prove themselves, who are hungry to play, to win. Mike and Ron aren't hungry that way. They need to play for the big prize. They need to play somewhere - where they will just be the other guy and not the guy because they were never the guys or not any good for that matter. They don't create for others, they don't work for others their agendas aren't the Kings agendas anymore. Nothing wrong with that. We just have to go separate ways doing what is best for everyone and soon.
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Mikki is on a KT level of sucking these days. He plays way too much for what he is giving us which is almost nothing other than his usual 5-6 fouls per game including 2 of them which give the opponent the 3 pt play and one is a foul on a 3pt shooter. You add the stone hands to this repertoire and I want to puke.
I would package him too if possible because we have couple big guys who need development and who actually have a capacity to improve. With Mikki - what You see is what You will get and there isn't anything extra coming in the future.
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Well Raptors were happy to play us the other night. As easy home win as they will have all year. We were decent in the first quarter and then we lost the other 3 by 14, 12 and 5 respectively and in the last quarter we made the score nicer in the garbage time. We took 27 threes and 15 free throws and that isn't the Kings of the last couple weeks. You add 19 assists and 20 turnovers and -13 rebounds to that and You won't win in the NBA against any team. We got our guys back and it went bad but that won't change since they have to play and they just don't play well together. I have never seen it before that 3 bench players all have more FGAs than any of the player from the starting lineup. that is a bad sign.
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AWARD TIME
TDM went to Delfino. 26/7/6/4 is a career game any day for a scrub. We didn't even try to contain him.
LW-VC award went to Bargnani but it wasn't even remotely important.
Ron gets the JHA award for his pathetic performance.
Mikki gets the SAR - Methuselah award and there really isn't any explanation needed.
WTF moment of the game - Kings zone in the 2nd quarter
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Pistons are next and the problem is (in addition with everything going on) that we beat them early in the season in Sacramento and they will remember it so they might play extra harder. We don't even know the lineup or the rotation and have to play a great team. A blowout wouldn't be a surprise. We going to have to defend perimeter and that won't be easy. I would be happy if we make it competitive and they don't hold us to a pathetically small amount of points. We have to play our best and we don't even know what that is with this group of guys. I wouldn't be shocked if the 2nd half turns into a garbage time.
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Mike - as long as the numbers are good
Ron - probably still not healthy enough
Kevin - will continue to suffer until the situation is resolved
Salmons - slowly fading
Cisco - same
Brad - only guy who wans't to affected.
Moore - garbage
Udrih - ineffective
rest - really hard to evaluate right now
Coach T - not working - try something else.
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Pistons are 29-10 and 14-3 at home. They were on an 11 game winning streak before splitting the last 6 games so they will be looking to improve. They have the best starting lineup in the league. Every guy can have a big night. We won't be able to guard Wallace one on one so defensive rotation will be crucial. TDM will go to Maxiell. LW-VC will go to Prince. Other awards are coming. I don't see us having a chance tomorrow night.
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There are good and bad deja vu situations in life. The game from last night goes in the category of horrible. It was vintage 06/07 Kings and actually only one man was missing - and a laptop with a power point presentation. Everything else was there including the half time koolaid that was taken after the 1st quarter. Lack of everything but individualism was there again.Makes You wonder - how much was Muss really to blame - well not really. I still think that he is only good enough to coach lakers but I am going to try to present this in an analogy if I may. There are good cooks and bad cooks. Neither can bake a cake out of garbage because if You put garbage in - You get the garbage out. Very simple. However, a good cook might be able to go trough that garbage and pick some things out and make something somewhat edible.
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More is less - sounds stupid but sometimes it is true and last night, it was as true as ever. At a random point in time once can only wear a pair of shoes, underwear, pair of sicks, pants, shirt, jacket, hat. If one is forced to wear 2 pair of shoes, longs and short pants, 2 hats and a robe at the same time - that person is not only badly dressed but it also looks ridiculous. Same goes for a basketball team good or bad one. You need scoring, shooting, rebounding, defense, setting screens, FT shooting and so on. You need a certain amount of everything at the same time on the floor. You need to have a certain balance to be successful. Last night we were balanced like one legged person with no arms walking a tight rope.
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Chemistry on the court is crucial. Kings have had bad experience with destroying the chemistry in 03/04 and last night similar thing happened just on a different scale. And there isn't really anyone to blame for it. It isn't an individual thing - it is a group thing. It takes time do develop the chemistry and cohesion but it can be ruined in one night. In the last couple weeks Kings looked like they were turning a corner not in terms of success this season or making a PO push but in terms of developing an identity, playing for each other and being competitive all the time. In 2 days a team that beat on of the best teams in the league and that hasn't been blown out in a while - turned to Minnesota Timberwolves.
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Role players are making the difference between a good team and a bad team assuming that stars will be stars. The Vlades and the Dougs of the world are what is crucial for a teams success. They do so much for others and it keeps a team together. The guys who do dirty work not because they have too but because they know that it is what is needed. The guys who don't have designed plays and who don't score 20 pts per game even though they could. We didn't have enough of them last night. We hardly had any and it showed in a bad, bad, way.
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Mike and Ron look like 5th wheel on a car and it isn't their fault at all. They don't fit here anymore at this stage in terms of what we need and what they need or deserve. We need hungry guys who want to prove themselves, who are hungry to play, to win. Mike and Ron aren't hungry that way. They need to play for the big prize. They need to play somewhere - where they will just be the other guy and not the guy because they were never the guys or not any good for that matter. They don't create for others, they don't work for others their agendas aren't the Kings agendas anymore. Nothing wrong with that. We just have to go separate ways doing what is best for everyone and soon.
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Mikki is on a KT level of sucking these days. He plays way too much for what he is giving us which is almost nothing other than his usual 5-6 fouls per game including 2 of them which give the opponent the 3 pt play and one is a foul on a 3pt shooter. You add the stone hands to this repertoire and I want to puke.
I would package him too if possible because we have couple big guys who need development and who actually have a capacity to improve. With Mikki - what You see is what You will get and there isn't anything extra coming in the future.
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Well Raptors were happy to play us the other night. As easy home win as they will have all year. We were decent in the first quarter and then we lost the other 3 by 14, 12 and 5 respectively and in the last quarter we made the score nicer in the garbage time. We took 27 threes and 15 free throws and that isn't the Kings of the last couple weeks. You add 19 assists and 20 turnovers and -13 rebounds to that and You won't win in the NBA against any team. We got our guys back and it went bad but that won't change since they have to play and they just don't play well together. I have never seen it before that 3 bench players all have more FGAs than any of the player from the starting lineup. that is a bad sign.
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AWARD TIME
TDM went to Delfino. 26/7/6/4 is a career game any day for a scrub. We didn't even try to contain him.
LW-VC award went to Bargnani but it wasn't even remotely important.
Ron gets the JHA award for his pathetic performance.
Mikki gets the SAR - Methuselah award and there really isn't any explanation needed.
WTF moment of the game - Kings zone in the 2nd quarter
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Pistons are next and the problem is (in addition with everything going on) that we beat them early in the season in Sacramento and they will remember it so they might play extra harder. We don't even know the lineup or the rotation and have to play a great team. A blowout wouldn't be a surprise. We going to have to defend perimeter and that won't be easy. I would be happy if we make it competitive and they don't hold us to a pathetically small amount of points. We have to play our best and we don't even know what that is with this group of guys. I wouldn't be shocked if the 2nd half turns into a garbage time.
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Mike - as long as the numbers are good
Ron - probably still not healthy enough
Kevin - will continue to suffer until the situation is resolved
Salmons - slowly fading
Cisco - same
Brad - only guy who wans't to affected.
Moore - garbage
Udrih - ineffective
rest - really hard to evaluate right now
Coach T - not working - try something else.
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Pistons are 29-10 and 14-3 at home. They were on an 11 game winning streak before splitting the last 6 games so they will be looking to improve. They have the best starting lineup in the league. Every guy can have a big night. We won't be able to guard Wallace one on one so defensive rotation will be crucial. TDM will go to Maxiell. LW-VC will go to Prince. Other awards are coming. I don't see us having a chance tomorrow night.
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