Kings owners balk at paying costs for planning Sacramento arena

im listening to grant right now and he just called George Maloof a genius for his role in the Palms. am i losing my mind?

hes on the payroll, if this were another team/owners where he wasnt getting a paycheck he would call it like all of us see it.
 
im listening to grant right now and he just called George Maloof a genius for his role in the Palms. am i losing my mind?

Now that's disingenous by Grant.

He said that George was a genius for building up the Palms, but he made a mistake by putting up the third tower. The family had a small little casino that made a profit in the Fiesta. They wanted to be big guns and did the Palms. They took on a lot of debt before Palms Place. Then, they decided to take on way too much debt to build condos at a casino off the strip.

If you lit a firecracker and held into into your hand until it blew 97% away, Grant thinks you are a genius for the way you made the wick sparkle until you made a mistake at the end.
 
Ok you saved yourself there with that last line.

I was referring less to the stuff about KJ/Maloof statements and more to him claiming that Stern has a plan in place to take over the Kings. I'll scan me some twitter now to verify what that was all about.

But no, I've never seen you do anything on the magnitude of just saying "Stern's going to take over the Kings after fronting all their pre-development costs!!!" and then not give any actual sources. Posting links to claims like that is standard practice here so no, I'm not being a Richard.

I didn't say Stern was going to take over the Kings. I said ask the BOG to front the Maloofs $3 mill + for the pre-development costs at which point the Maloofs have lost some of their power just like when the league sent people here to "help" with season tickets/advertising etc.
 
I'm completely fed up with idiot Napear! Not just because of his lock-step Maloof (spelled Foolam backwards) bias but his totally foreign to Sacramento and Northern California blab. Just now, he has on Charles Davis and very first thing out of his ridiculous mouth is, "oh, Charles, you went to Madison Square Garden for the first time recently, blah, blah, blah." Who gives a rats arse in Sac about Napear's New York this, Madison Square Garden that - constant NY Giants, Yankees, etc. It's sickening and literally everyday on his show with only passing mentions of Giants, A's, Niners, Raiders. The day he's finally booted out of this town after having to put up with a quarter century of his NYC homer crap will be one helluva day to celebrate.
 
Grant thinks Greg Norman was a genius in the 1996 Masters and the same is true of Grady Little in the 2003 ALCS. Granted, they made a mistake at the end. But still, genius.
 
Rumor is Stern is going to ask the BOG to cover the entire share. At that point the NBA has once again taken control over the Kings. The Maloofs control is dwindling fast.

I guess I misunderstood you. My bad. Anyway, I do hope something along the lines of this is coming down the pike.
 
I'm completely fed up with idiot Napear! Not just because of his lock-step Maloof (spelled Foolam backwards) bias but his totally foreign to Sacramento and Northern California blab. Just now, he has on Charles Davis and very first thing out of his ridiculous mouth is, "oh, Charles, you went to Madison Square Garden for the first time recently, blah, blah, blah." Who gives a rats arse in Sac about Napear's New York this, Madison Square Garden that - constant NY Giants, Yankees, etc. It's sickening and literally everyday on his show with only passing mentions of Giants, A's, Niners, Raiders. The day he's finally booted out of this town after having to put up with a quarter century of his NYC homer crap will be one helluva day to celebrate.

Yet they take off a true Sacramento guy like Carmichael Dave, sadly grant is now our only local source for kings news/interviews
 
Yet they take off a true Sacramento guy like Carmichael Dave, sadly grant is now our only local source for kings news/interviews

I heard something about Dave show being cancelled. From what I heard on Don's show I thought it had more to do with him going 6.5 hours in a row.
 
In all this... isn't there something illegal about what the Maloofs just did? If the City/NBA can prove they weren't negotiating in good faith, but were maneuvering to scuttle the deal, is there a legal precedent for action against that? Might that also be slightly slanderous of George to come out and say those things, implying Stern/KJ were liars??

If this thing gets legal, and I would not be surprised in the least if it did... my money's on the big nasty NY lawyers that the NBA has. As they say... could be time to "lawyer up"!!!
 
just curious, if the Maloofs were indeed dealing in bad faith and wanted out, why would they let negotiations come so far?
 
In all this... isn't there something illegal about what the Maloofs just did? If the City/NBA can prove they weren't negotiating in good faith, but were maneuvering to scuttle the deal, is there a legal precedent for action against that? Might that also be slightly slanderous of George to come out and say those things, implying Stern/KJ were liars??

If this thing gets legal, and I would not be surprised in the least if it did... my money's on the big nasty NY lawyers that the NBA has. As they say... could be time to "lawyer up"!!!

Almost impossible to prove. The only thing that could really hang them would be emails, letters, etc. that specifically mentioned something like pulling the wool over the eyes of the city or the NBA, etc.

As far as slander and/or libel goes, implication doesn't count.

The thing the Maloofs better be the most worried about is David Stern and the Board of Governors. From what Stern has said and done, my best guess is that he's "this far" away from pulling the plug on the Maloofs no matter what it takes. I still remember his comment from a year ago..."They've got Burkle?" I can only imagine that Stern dreams of having someone like Ron Burkle step up and become part of his exclusive little club.
 
just curious, if the Maloofs were indeed dealing in bad faith and wanted out, why would they let negotiations come so far?

If this were the case, and I'm not saying it is, the Maloofs would let negotiations go as far as possible to make it appear as though they weren't the villains.
 
just curious, if the Maloofs were indeed dealing in bad faith and wanted out, why would they let negotiations come so far?

Keep in mind their ultimate goal: get out of Sac. Move to Anaheim.

This is exactly what they'd want to do. The NBA required them to try to make it work, so they have to try to make it appear that they did... but this last round of "concerns" is so friggin ridiculous... now what they're trying to do is simply throw a wrench into the system to slow things down. If they were genuine in their desire to make it work here, they would have tried their hardest to try to get these concerns addressed long ago... like in Orlando perhaps?? Or better... make a list throughout the YEAR and give it to the Maloofs proactively, saying these are what we need to have happen for this to work for us. Not even close to anything like that. They never once, to my knowledge to ANY initiative in putting this deal together or trying to prevent it from hitting snags. The only actions (and non-actions) they've taken indicate they want this thing to fail at all costs.

What they're effectively doing is setting a trap by playing along for a while. They might've hoped the city would shoot it down. In fact, they may be actively campaigning for that to happen. For all we know, they could have put up that stupid STOP website. Or had a minion do it.
 
If this were the case, and I'm not saying it is, the Maloofs would let negotiations go as far as possible to make it appear as though they weren't the villains.

yeah exactly. and the farther it gets, the more problems they can cause by throwing wrenches in the machinery, if you all catch my drift. With the vote passing, ball is back in their court.
 
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