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I know what you're saying, but IMO they'd be a better team if they did. Salmons would be really good as their starting PG and Kenny I think really just needs a change of scenery and could be a good fit for the triangle as well. He can dribble, pass, rebound and defend(he used to be able to shoot). THat system might accentuate his game better than what Muss' system is currently.
CaminoChaos
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I think Kwame is garbage. Salmon > Evans. The only advantage is getting rid of K9's contract.
And that's how I see this deal too.
Lakers get the best player and the worst contract...kings just take back expirings.
nbrans
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This isn't the trade the Kings and Lakers discussed, and it's not realistic.
Bibby for Kwame Brown and Jordan Farmar, on the other hand, is more realistic, and if the Kings are unable to trade Bibby to a team with cap room, and if the Maloofs can get over their Lakers obsession, that's probably one of the better deals the Kings are going to get.
Bibby for Kwame Brown and Jordan Farmar, on the other hand, is more realistic, and if the Kings are unable to trade Bibby to a team with cap room, and if the Maloofs can get over their Lakers obsession, that's probably one of the better deals the Kings are going to get.
Why is trading away a near all-star talent for a scrub expiring and a late first round pick more realistic than trading a scrub expiring for a quality player on a good deal, and a bad deal? It's completely swung in the Lakers favor through the Bibby proposal. Makes NO sense for the Kings.
We've been trying to move Mike, but I don't like this deal obviously as much as trading K9 and Salmons for Kwame & Evans. I miss Evans about as much as I miss us trading away Barnes in the Webber trade. Evans is a nice option off the bench and Salmons is versatile, but so is Cisco...but Cisco is much cheaper, younger, and is more athletic then Salmons. I like Salmons, but if we can trade away K9, we have to give something that we really don't want to. Kwame is expendible as they have Bynum as well as other bigs and if the bigs cannot develop under 1 of the games' best big man in Kareem, then there isn't much hope for you. Kwame is regarded as somewhat of a lost cause and time has ticked away as to his potential. For the Kings he'd still be nice as a athletic big along with Williams.
I know we don't like to deal with the Lakers and having the former player show us up as I think no team in history has a former player made his former team look bad as much as the Kings have endured! ;-) We invent unknown players and they have their career games off of anyways so what does it matter right? I feel that we should try to work with the Lakers for our big as they have a # of them and they have one of the best teachers/mentors in the game.
One of our biggest black holes in our PF with the undersized K9, with a athletic big like Williams this is becoming less of an issue as the guy is a defensive stopper more then a offensive point maker...there are enough players on the roster that are good at getting points, including our 7 foot center who plays away from the hoop.
Unloading K9 and Bibby are top priorities this offseason as well as Miller and Artest to lesser degrees. I actually wouldn't mind keeping Miller and Artest if Artest behaves & Miller continues to be a good passer, shooter and possibly comes off the bench for some leadership if that's all he can do with his foot. The foot problem he has looks to be one with more long term career ending or limiting implications rather then just a small short term flare up.
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Kingzrool
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That is a pretty big advantage.
nbrans
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The first proposal makes no sense for the Lakers. What do they want with Kenny Thomas and John Salmons? They already have enough swingmen, and no one is going to swallow Kenny's contract unless they're getting something really good, or giving up something really bad. The Lakers do neither here. It's horribly unrealistic.
Bibby for an expiring contract and a young point guard? I'd like it if a draft pick were included, but that's about as much the Kings can reasonably hope for. I don't think Bibby's trade value is a great deal higher than this -- no one is sure which Bibby they're getting, he may be a one season rental, and he's coming off a horrible season.
Maybe -- maybe -- I could see it if the trade were expanded to Bibby/KT for Kwame/Farmar/Radmanovic, but that isn't a whole lot better for the Kings.
beb0p
Starter
No way in hell will the Lakers do this deal. They're trying to get way under the cap for a big-name signing in 08 or 09. This trade destroys their cap flexibility.
Also, if they wanted Salmons, they could have had him last summer.
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I respectfully disagree...Evans is nowhere near as good as Salmons, and he's just filler. It could be Cook or anyother scrub that allows the salaries to match. Kwame is only greater than thomas is terms of contract situation. Salmons is the best player int he deal. Kwame is the worst. When you actually facotr in basketball ability, contracts, and need this trade makes total sense for both teams.
NBrans...Salmons would start at PG for the Lakers, he really wouldn't be a swingman in the traditional sense. He's the IDEAL candidate for them to land as their starting PG in the triangle.
I think people overrate Kwame b/c he was once a #1 pick and thye think he'll turn it around, or they believe Laker fans evaluations. But the guy sucks and he'll never get it together. THe only reason I want him is for his expiring contract. That's it. Kenny Thomas is as good if not better than Kwame and yes I understand that's not saying much, but with the upgrade at PG for the Lakers IMO I'd say that makes this worth it for the lakers.
With Mitch Kupcake as their GM? No way, he blows money on bafoons. He's a terrible GM and is half the reason the Lakers are at .500.
beb0p
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You know, I completely agree with ya on Cupcake
, he is truly one of the worst in the league. But it's exactly why the Lakers don't want Salmons. They prefer bottom feeders like Radmanovic and Smuch Parker. Plus, Cupcake thinks he has a good shot at signing Billups.
You know, I completely agree with ya on Cupcake
But it's exactly why the Lakers don't want Salmons. They prefer bottom feeders like Radmanovic and Smuch Parker. Plus, Cupcake thinks he has a good shot at signing Billups.
LMAO!!! With what money..are they gonna offer Kwame and Bynum in a sign and trade...I don't think that's enough money for what Billups is going to want.
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