Kings @ Lakers Game Thread 1/1, 7:30 p.m. PST

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Oh please....the refs were fair throughout. The team played a great game on the road but lost to a vastly superior and more experienced team. The game was lost because of inexperience, missed free-throws, and....the fact that they were playing the defending champs with the greatest clutch player in the game (as much as it pains me to say that).

100% spot on. I thought they Lakers got the benefit of the calls, but they are the defending champs, the home team and had the superstar so it's going to happen that way.

As much as I would have loved to have won, I am still thrilled we had a young team missing our two best players and still fought the defending champs this hard in their own building. Finishing games is something players learn how to do. We had the same problems in 99 and 00 before we learned how to win and that was with a more veteran team than we have now. We are headed in the right direction. And this game just proved the game at Arco was no fluke.
 
they didn't miss those fts for us, or leave Kobe open

No but they give them every god damn opportunity possible to be in the position to win the game. It's corruption, plain and simple, and if you don't think so you're completely delusional.

This is it.
I will never watch another Kings/Laker game as long as I live. If they win good, if not, I don't really give a ****. It's a scam, its purely for money and its a disgrace to the sport of basketball itself. David Stern is the most corrupt ******* in all of sports. There is no point spending your entire life rooting for a team that plays against a disadvantage like this. The refs flat out cheat for the Lakers. The NBA is a disgrace and David Stern is a scumbag.
 
look at the tape. It was a clear push. Kobe's arms are moving in Sergio's direction. A push can't be more clear than that. There is no such thing as "hardly a push" - is is push or it isn't a push and this clearly, clearly was a push. If it was Casspi instead of Kobe it would have been called and it would have been a good call

Yes, it doesn't seem obvious on real time because of the angle of the TV shot and how fast it happen. But watch the replay and you see an obvious forearm extending to push Sergio off balance.

Sergio wouldn't just fall to the ground with a simple bump.
 
look at the tape. It was a clear push. Kobe's arms are moving in Sergio's direction. A push can't be more clear than that. There is no such thing as "hardly a push" - is is push or it isn't a push and this clearly, clearly was a push. If it was Casspi instead of Kobe it would have been called and it would have been a good call
I rewatched it again too. CLEAR push. he elbows sergio right in the chest then pushes off?? sergio didnt just fall for no reason.
 
For everyone saying "if we hit free throws we win" YES, but if Kobe gets called for fouls like everyone else, the game is a blowout. Isn't playing better than the other team enough? Apparently not.

Stern has made this game about players, not teams. Bad strategy in the long run if you ask me. As far as I'm concerned, it's killing the game.
 
Eh...times like this I'm glad I had my 4 year old and his cousin distracting me so I didn't see the end live...oh well, 14-18...on to Dallas, everything is a learning experience for the kids, and sooner or later Kobe will get old, retire and stop driving steaks into our hearts.
 
I hate this ****ing cheating league.
We were up 2 with 40 seconds left and they crooked refs bailed out the Lakers with that bull**** call on Shannon Brown. Not to mention if you breath on Kobe its a shooting foul. This league is so damn currupt it makes me sick. That POS David Stern just got another Kobe highlight to make money off of, thats all it is. Everything went his way.
Enough with this crap. Udoka couldn't even split his fts. Nobody was cheating nobody.
 
Yes, it doesn't seem obvious on real time because of the angle of the TV shot and how fast it happen. But watch the replay and you see an obvious forearm extending to push Sergio off balance.

Sergio wouldn't just fall to the ground with a simple bump.
It was obvious in real time, more so actually.

This is my opinion on the issue and always has been my opinion: You don't bail out the refs or make excuses for their faults. You include them as factors.

Thus, Ime bricking FTs cost the team the game, but so did poor officiating.

I get really tired of multiple cases of questionable calls in a game being excused because somebody can point to one play not involving the refs. Everything is a factor, everything decides outcomes and officials have a compounding factor on games*.

Ime needs to hit a free throw. Sergio shouldn't be guarding in that scenario. Maybe it was because Donte and JT were fouled out, but Beno/Hawes/Casspi/Noc/Kenny is probably better. And the refs need to call the rules of the game, not make Donaghy look like a betting genius.


*Something that happened partially in this game and happens in others is that if a team isn't getting sent to the line when they are going to the hole, while the other team is, the team not getting calls starts to fall back on outside shots. The Kings started doing that, but were luckily hitting their threes. The annoying part of this, is media/fans say "well they stopped going to the hole" which is effect of the act and not the cause. See this mistake by observers all the time.
 
Can someone post postgame quotes from the Kings please? Especially from Casspi, he looked pissed.
Yeah didn't want to leave the court.

We should of shot more free throws, Lakers shot nearly twice as many.

No other team that beats us makes me rage like the lakers because it seems they never beat us cleanly.
 

Bricklayer

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I rewatched it again too. CLEAR push. he elbows sergio right in the chest then pushes off?? sergio didnt just fall for no reason.

Talk to Byron Russel. ;)

But now irony aside, point out to be the last time you've seen that call made in that situation, against anybody? The refs absolutely hate to blow the whistle on the final play of the game and decide it. Its pretty much anything goes.
 

Larry89

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Thompson reminds me of some kind of hyperactive dog with some sort of meat or bacon attached to a hanging-string hat.

and he's just constantly chasing it...
 

Bricklayer

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Yeah its great that his best game is paired with Thompsons worst. Ah lets just keep in in there, good call Westphal.

Lakers present a real size problem for our little "bigs". One of those games where having a third full-sized big could have really made a difference -- given Westphal somebody to turn to.
 
Why cant Kings "down to the wire games" ever finish in a totally normal fashion, without a **** job by the refs at some point? For instance I watched the Knicks and the Hawks today. Refs were totally good, no controversy whatsoever, alot of clutch play and the underdogs win. Thats usually what its like when I watch other "crunch time games" by other teams. When I watch the Kings, it couldn't be more opposite.
 

Bricklayer

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yea rewatch the last play and tell me we didnt get cheated.

Again..that is very rarely called. Like almost never. Now you can say, well, they should call it. But they don't. Same reason Kevin struggles in end games -- they swallow those whistles and jsut let them play. And you have to know that's coming, and really I think would have been better off wiht more size on Kobe. I mean, besides Fisher I think I'd pretty much ratehr give any of the other guys a wide open shot than give Kobe any shot at all in that situation.
 
Of course we can point fingers, this is a message board. I love my Kings and they deserved the win tonight. **** David Stern. When we get to the playoffs this bull **** better not happen. And now Kobe gets the good press while the Kings become the lakers **** to the nation. Lakers represent all that is evil and wrong with the world.
 
But now irony aside, point out to be the last time you've seen that call made in that situation, against anybody? The refs absolutely hate to blow the whistle on the final play of the game and decide it. Its pretty much anything goes.
They usually apply the same type of hate on any type of questionable call that'd get a player fouled out. I wish they would've done the same tonight with JT.
 
Lakers present a real size problem for our little "bigs". One of those games where having a third full-sized big could have really made a difference -- given Westphal somebody to turn to.

We've got a big man that has earned minutes. Brockman didn't get the memo that hes too small. He would have out played Thompson in every facet of the game tonight.
 
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