[Game] Kings @ Lakers 10/26/2024 7:30pm Pacific 10:30pm Eastern
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kingsboi
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Kings are going to get cooked by power forwards all season long at this rate. Not enough defense out there. It will be like that season where Boogie, Rudy & IT got their points and it looked nice on box scores but the Lakers got to their spots time and time again without much resistance. Kings had some good deflections and active hands and that's honestly the best way they can try to be a bit disruptive defensively. Teams are going to constantly put Sabonis on the perimeter to guard 1 v 1. Too bad we won't get to see what kind of defensive intensity Carter can bring this season or at least for the majority of it.
Jones2006
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These rotational decisions are a joke so far this season. Overplaying your starters when you have your full bench is insane to start the year. Changing rotation game to game is also silly. Trying to play 3 “centers” is also silly (meaning just stick with Len behind Sabonis, if it’s not broke don’t fix it. Instead they’re subbing Lyles as small ball center for Len early in 2nd).
Team is not gonna build continuity if you change up rotations every game.
Team is not gonna build continuity if you change up rotations every game.
Tetsujin
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Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
Maybe don’t cape extra hard for Len after a game where he was sorta terrible?
So far (preseason + 2 games) I dont like our offense: like some1 mentioned before - it has no identity. Domas is best at DHO, Fox (Monk too) is best at fast pace, but I dont see game plan on doing this. Jacking threes will not help to win.
Of course, there is time to fix mistakes or change game approach, but I have concerns with Brown adjustments. Rotations suck and I thought that preseason helps to do correct decisions. Another thing - our bench is weak and upgrade there is necessary.
I am still optimistic and believe that team can play well even with current roster.
Of course, there is time to fix mistakes or change game approach, but I have concerns with Brown adjustments. Rotations suck and I thought that preseason helps to do correct decisions. Another thing - our bench is weak and upgrade there is necessary.
I am still optimistic and believe that team can play well even with current roster.
sactowndog
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they went with a Jackson Hayes, AD and LeBron front line and the Kings folded. It can’t be overstated how much this team struggles with length. Right now we have no answer
ShastaKingsFan
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Yeah, he has advantages at the 3, especially considering that he can guard 2's. Playing him at power forward kind of nullifies that.
Also makes me wonder how a trade for a forward could work for the starting lineup. I don't see them playing DeRozan anywhere but the starting 3
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
AD wasn’t in the game when the Lakers had their run though. Length has nothing to do with it unless you’re of the opinion that having LeBron drain contested jumpers over two wings instead of just Keegan Murray would have been better somehow?
We ate Hayes for breakfast. And as Tetsu said, Bron went supernova with AD on the sideline. By definition, that's them going small. Regardless, Bron could have had 4 6th graders on the floor with him and it wouldn't have mattered. He just simply beat good defense over and over and over again
Clearly, the only reason Bron went supernova, was because Hayes was in the game over AD
Yeah, I don't get it. If he chose Jmac over him, i disagree, but fine, that's at least a rotation decision. But running an 8 man rotation this early in the season just doesn't make any sense whatsoever. We're going to burn our top 4 out in a month with these Thibs minutes
sactowndog
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while I was jumping back and forth between Kings and Football. Hayes +24 would indicate we had trouble with length. But you keep telling yourself it’s not a problem.
btw it’s possible LeBron going off had something to do with not having enough long defenders is it not?
sactowndog
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Okay I withdraw my point. I thought the line-up with the big run had Hayes and Davis. As I said I was flipping back and forth with football.
this line up was +31
L. James - D. Russell - R. Hachimura - J. Hayes - D. Knecht
while the line-up I mentioned was -2
L. James - A. Davis - G. Vincent - J. Hayes - M. Christie
I will say in my defense the line-up that torched us was also pretty long. So the general point seems still pretty valid
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I stand by my statement that the existence of +/- only makes us dumber. Without it people would actually have to make a real argument instead of citing a meaningless number. But I feel the same way about AI and the rest of the world has adopted that as the way of the future so I guess that makes me the old man shouting at clouds.
I don't overly disagree with your points here, but +/- just doesn't matter and especially not in this game. Bron just took over the game by himself and whoever was with him on LAL is going to look great and everyone on our side out there is going to look bad. I don't think we have to go further than a HOF player turned back the clock for 4 minutes and did something incredible.
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
I do think that +\- does serve some purpose if used in context/ accounting for longer spans of time than a single game but, yeah, taking these numbers out of context from one game just serves no purpose
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
It really might be on the Mt Rushmore of Kings opponent explosions next to Steph Game 7 and Klay’s 37 point third quarter.
the Kings could have definitely done a bit more to stem momentum before it got to the point it did but by the third or fourth straight Lakers basket you could just sorta feel Lebron through the screen.
No, because it's LeBron freaking James. Now if Rui or Reaves dropped 21 on our heads in 4 minutes, that's where you might have a point. Sometimes, the generational talent does generational things. Just have to hope it's not vs your team
100%. It's similar when Steph really finds that shooting groove and you already know it's in before the ball leaves his hands. I maintain we actually were playing good defense on him; just didn't matter he hit everything right in our face.
sactowndog
All-Star
yes and no. Rui had a pretty good game also.
and it’s pretty much a continuation of a trend LeBron or not.
Which goes back to the Keon question. Keegan is defending his ass off, looks like a legit all defensive talent, but he can't lock down everybody. Keon would take a lot of pressure off him
sactowndog
All-Star
in this case I was using it for clarity who was on the floor when the Lakers went on their big Run. While it wasn’t Hayes and Davis it was still a pretty long line-up.
Russell at 8’6 was the least lengthy player out there
Demar is only 8’6.5
Huerter is 8’5.5
Fox is 8’4
sactowndog
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I agree and he adds some length that neither DeRosen nor Huerter have.
ShastaKingsFan
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He just balances the starting lineup so well, that I can't help but think that there is something more going on with this. That something being making a sacrifice for a bigger move later on. They probably wish it could be sooner rather than later, but we know how the league tends to work near the dead-line.
Especially when you look at a 16.8 + 18 mil contract vs a 2.12 + 2.3 mil contract, for this season and next. Has to be a big factor in how they are trying to manage this roster going forward. If those contracts were much closer to one another, say 9 mil vs 7 mil, we likely wouldn't be having this conversation
iowamcnabb
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Kingz19
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in guessing the FG percentage alone is what makes it a first. 15-5-5 seems like it would be pretty common. I wouldn’t be surprised if Domas had done that once or twice over the last couple of seasons.
Jokic too
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