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Well the most obvious answer is that he is an older rookie. He is more than 2 years older than Banchero, Smith, Sharpe, Duren, Griffin (in some cases, more than 3 years), and close to 2 years older than most other top rookies of the class (including Chet, whom I am discounting since next year will officially be his rookie year, even if he's from the same draft class). It's likely that some of the others will show greater growth just because they have 2-3 more years of development. The final jury on who had the best career will take a long time, though the next 5-6 years might start showing up who is likely to have a better career.
Even if others show greater growth, doesn't mean Keegan was the wrong pick. Unless you have someone like Curry, who turns out to be a generational player, Keegan was the right player for us. He filled a position of need, gives us shooting, spacing, and some defense that we have been lacking at that position for years, and allowed us to be competitive. Even if, say Ivey, ends up having a better career, would that have been good for the team if Fox/Dom were frustrated by lack of winning? Would we have traded for Kevin if we had drafted Ivey/Ben/Sharpe? Would Duren have seen any playing time behind Dom if we had traded down for him? How would it impact his growth? We can continue to speculate with no benefit.
Hindsight will make us all wiser in a few years, but a better overall career does not necessarily mean a better overall pick for your team based on its current status and requirements (again, unless the difference is huge. As good as Reke was in his rookie year, and Griffin the next, Steph was clearly the pick of his class).
Even if others show greater growth, doesn't mean Keegan was the wrong pick. Unless you have someone like Curry, who turns out to be a generational player, Keegan was the right player for us. He filled a position of need, gives us shooting, spacing, and some defense that we have been lacking at that position for years, and allowed us to be competitive. Even if, say Ivey, ends up having a better career, would that have been good for the team if Fox/Dom were frustrated by lack of winning? Would we have traded for Kevin if we had drafted Ivey/Ben/Sharpe? Would Duren have seen any playing time behind Dom if we had traded down for him? How would it impact his growth? We can continue to speculate with no benefit.
Hindsight will make us all wiser in a few years, but a better overall career does not necessarily mean a better overall pick for your team based on its current status and requirements (again, unless the difference is huge. As good as Reke was in his rookie year, and Griffin the next, Steph was clearly the pick of his class).
One thing about parity is that teams seem to be beating each other up. The 6th place team is currently on a 42 win pace. It's possible (maybe even likely), that 45 wins give you a clear entry into the playoffs (though 7-10 will be damn close too).
Hopefully, we don't lose many games we are supposed to win, and pick some expected to be competitive (as of now, I don't put any game as expected loss
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While all games are critical, the next 8 will be super critical. The last home game (tough but winnable), and 7 road games, but many winnable ones. If we can get a good record here, that will really help that push towards 45, which I see as a necessary target.
Hopefully, we don't lose many games we are supposed to win, and pick some expected to be competitive (as of now, I don't put any game as expected loss
.While all games are critical, the next 8 will be super critical. The last home game (tough but winnable), and 7 road games, but many winnable ones. If we can get a good record here, that will really help that push towards 45, which I see as a necessary target.
I was listening to Jerry's most recent podcast about the Kings. It was published in early January when we were 21-18. The tone was a bit more doom and gloom because we played really bad basketball in the 10 games prior. Fast forward to today, we're now 27-19. Thea attitude is much more positive.
Question, can the Kings keep this up? We're 7-1 in our last 8, but our schedule was pretty easy. I think it's a good sign that we're beating all the teams that we need to beat. According to Tankathon, we're 22nd in remaining strength of schedule. I think this will change after our upcoming roadtrip because we'll face the Rockets twice.
Fun fact: last year, it took us until our 75th game to win 27 games.
Question, can the Kings keep this up? We're 7-1 in our last 8, but our schedule was pretty easy. I think it's a good sign that we're beating all the teams that we need to beat. According to Tankathon, we're 22nd in remaining strength of schedule. I think this will change after our upcoming roadtrip because we'll face the Rockets twice.
Fun fact: last year, it took us until our 75th game to win 27 games.
In today's edition of "Crossing the Streams," aka Unexpected Kings mention, on today's The Dan LeBatard Show With Stugotz, they had a segment where a handful of the guys played a game of "Kings That Make You Smile*." The premise of the 'game' was simple enough: each person participating had to name five former Kings players that, when they hear the name, they smile. No talent level prerequisite, no explanation required, just guys whose names made them smile.
I have included the names of the participants as well as, for the benefit of non-fans of the show, a quick rundown of some of their bona-fides:
Mike Schur (Television writer/producer. Creator, Parks and Recreation, Brooklyn Nine Nine, The Good Place. On-air talent, Meadowlark Media)
OLI (Outside Looking In): Otis Birdsong, Hedo Turkoglu, Mateen Cleaves
5. Peja Stojakovic
4. Wayman Tisdale
3. Lawrence Funderburke
2. Tiny Archibald
1. Spud Webb
Amin Elhassan (Former Assistant Director of Basketball Operations, Phoenix Suns. Former On-air talent, ESPN. Current co-host, Basketball Illuminati podcast, Cinephobe podcast, BOMM podcast. On-air talent, Meadowlark Media)
OLI: Eddie Johnson, Olden Polynice, Donté Greene
5. Scot Pollard
4. Corliss Williamson
3. Lawrence Funderburke
2. Hedo Turkgolu
1. Eddie House
Jon "Stugotz" Weiner (Former Station Director, AM 790 The Ticket. Former On-air talent, ESPN. Co-host, The Dan LeBatard Show With Stugotz podcast. Host, God Bless Football podcast, STU-podity podcast. On-air talent, Meadowlark Media)
OLI: Bobby Jackson
5. Doug Christie
4. Scot Pollard
3. Walt Williams
2. Wayman Tisdale
1. Reggie Theus
Chris Wittyngham (Executive Producer, The Dan LeBatard Show With Stugotz podcast, Co-host/producer, Chelsea Mike'd Up podcast, Former Co-host/Producer, Futbol with Grant Wahl podcast, Radio Play-by-Play Announcer, Inter Miami CF. Former Host, WQAM Radio Miami Dolphins pregame and halftime show. On-air talent, Meadowlark Media)
5. Kosta Koufos
4. Nik Stauskas
3. Brad Miller
2. Omri Casspi
1. Lawrence Funderburke
Tony Calatayud (Producer, The Dan LeBatard Show With Stugotz podcast. On-air talent, Meadowlark Media)
5. Doug Christie
4. Vlade Divac
3. Peja Stoakovic
2. Jason Williams
1. Zach Randolph
*It's a recurring show bit. IYKYK. Today just happened to be the first time that they ever did it with Kings players.
I have included the names of the participants as well as, for the benefit of non-fans of the show, a quick rundown of some of their bona-fides:
Mike Schur (Television writer/producer. Creator, Parks and Recreation, Brooklyn Nine Nine, The Good Place. On-air talent, Meadowlark Media)
OLI (Outside Looking In): Otis Birdsong, Hedo Turkoglu, Mateen Cleaves
5. Peja Stojakovic
4. Wayman Tisdale
3. Lawrence Funderburke
2. Tiny Archibald
1. Spud Webb
Amin Elhassan (Former Assistant Director of Basketball Operations, Phoenix Suns. Former On-air talent, ESPN. Current co-host, Basketball Illuminati podcast, Cinephobe podcast, BOMM podcast. On-air talent, Meadowlark Media)
OLI: Eddie Johnson, Olden Polynice, Donté Greene
5. Scot Pollard
4. Corliss Williamson
3. Lawrence Funderburke
2. Hedo Turkgolu
1. Eddie House
Jon "Stugotz" Weiner (Former Station Director, AM 790 The Ticket. Former On-air talent, ESPN. Co-host, The Dan LeBatard Show With Stugotz podcast. Host, God Bless Football podcast, STU-podity podcast. On-air talent, Meadowlark Media)
OLI: Bobby Jackson
5. Doug Christie
4. Scot Pollard
3. Walt Williams
2. Wayman Tisdale
1. Reggie Theus
Chris Wittyngham (Executive Producer, The Dan LeBatard Show With Stugotz podcast, Co-host/producer, Chelsea Mike'd Up podcast, Former Co-host/Producer, Futbol with Grant Wahl podcast, Radio Play-by-Play Announcer, Inter Miami CF. Former Host, WQAM Radio Miami Dolphins pregame and halftime show. On-air talent, Meadowlark Media)
5. Kosta Koufos
4. Nik Stauskas
3. Brad Miller
2. Omri Casspi
1. Lawrence Funderburke
Tony Calatayud (Producer, The Dan LeBatard Show With Stugotz podcast. On-air talent, Meadowlark Media)
5. Doug Christie
4. Vlade Divac
3. Peja Stoakovic
2. Jason Williams
1. Zach Randolph
*It's a recurring show bit. IYKYK. Today just happened to be the first time that they ever did it with Kings players.
On this day in 2016, the Sacramento Kings DeMarcus Cousins scored a career-high 56 points in a loss to the Hornets. Cousins, who scored 48 points the previous game, is the only player in franchise history to record back-to-back 45-point games.
When are they going to cut ties with this scumbag
https://amp.tmz.com/2023/01/25/matt...9ers-playoff-game-after-alleged-threats-push/
https://amp.tmz.com/2023/01/25/matt...9ers-playoff-game-after-alleged-threats-push/
Just as a side note - Curry was a Junior who was over 21 on draft night as well. He was 2 and a half years older than who most Kings fans wanted (Rubio) and a year and a half older than who the Kings took (Tyreke). It is definitely true that on average players drafted younger show more growth in the NBA. The stats bear that out. And I'm not saying that Keegan is remotely a Steph-level player, just that being older on draft night doesn't preclude individuals from deviating from the average and experiencing larger than expected growth in their game.
Given Keegan's path and trajectory, I wouldn't bet against it.
Given Keegan's path and trajectory, I wouldn't bet against it.
Joerger didn't hide that Bagley was not his pick and he wanted that other guy.
He and Brandon Williams (Vlade's #2, who may have really been running things) began a very public feud (via leaks). Complete insubordination by both and ground for termination imho, even though I think his coaching was otherwise competent.
He and Brandon Williams (Vlade's #2, who may have really been running things) began a very public feud (via leaks). Complete insubordination by both and ground for termination imho, even though I think his coaching was otherwise competent.
Which is better than any alternate means of self defense that involves physical altercation...
I'm with @Telemachus on this one.
I'm with @Telemachus on this one.
don't get me wrong, it's effing gross and it isn't really "self defense", but it also won't break an orbital or concuss so aside from pride or I guess some random chance a virus is passed, the wound is over as soon as you get a towel.
but if you are a creep who is harassing your ex partner or their new partner you deserve whatever is coming to you.
but if you are a creep who is harassing your ex partner or their new partner you deserve whatever is coming to you.
