[KINGS] Comments that don't warrant their own thread (Redux)

[Warhawk]

What 10 players are currently playing better basketball this season?

Here's a list to start discussion:
The NBA, Ranked (theringer.com)

 

[Showtime]

Here's a list to start discussion:
The NBA, Ranked (theringer.com)

TH is playing better than Booker who is ranked 9.

Also Fox is having a very comparable season to Book: https://stathead.com//basketball/ve...=2024&player_id1=bookede01&player_id2=foxde01

 

[Warhawk]

TH is playing better than Booker who is ranked 9.

Also Fox is having a very comparable season to Book: https://stathead.com//basketball/ve...=2024&player_id1=bookede01&player_id2=foxde01

Whatever. You asked, I provided an answer. Nobody really cares one way or another unless they just want to argue and be pedantic.

Hali was traded. He's gone. Let it go. The trade worked out for both teams. Everyone should be happy.

 

[Caccia]

We fans have been writing a lot about rotations lately, especially changes we would like to see, or at least tried.

Here is an article that calls the rotations "hectic." I agree with the basic premise, but not necessarily with the criticisms of individual players. I do suspect that the instability in rotations has hurt the team's performance.

https://www.si.com/nba/kings/news/kings-address-hectic-bench-rotation

 

[iowamcnabb]

Here is an article that calls the rotations "hectic." I agree with the basic premise, but not necessarily with the criticisms of individual players. I do suspect that the instability in rotations has hurt the team's performance.

https://www.si.com/nba/kings/news/kings-address-hectic-bench-rotation

to be fair, that article is almost assuredly written by a member of this forum.

 

[Caccia]

To be fair, that article is almost assuredly written by a member of this forum.

How do you know? I am not familiar with the byline or the publication, but thought it was interesting, nonetheless. If it was written by one of the fans here, I can delete the post.

 

[iowamcnabb]

How do you know? I am not familiar with the byline or the publication, but thought it was interesting, nonetheless. If it was written by one of the fans here, I can delete the post.

no don’t delete it, its just speculation on my part. The writing style is familiar

 

[SacTownKid]

Here is an article that calls the rotations "hectic." I agree with the basic premise, but not necessarily with the criticisms of individual players. I do suspect that the instability in rotations has hurt the team's performance.

https://www.si.com/nba/kings/news/kings-address-hectic-bench-rotation

There is most assuredly showcasing and intel going on. Seeing who fits, where, how and to see if they can drum up interest. This are some similarities at times to what Monte had Gentry doing when Fox was "hurt". Brown does look around the edges of his roster for answers, which I don't mind, but for a team playing this well it's more than what even he would typically do.

 

[The_Jamal]

to be fair all he really says is that if a team offers him 25 mil and a starting job he is gone which I would say most of us agree on. The good news is there just are not many teams that can offer money, starting gig and the right situation.

I mean, there's no "inside info here". Just as we've all speculated about his contract.

 

[The_Jamal]

Yeh they are a possibility. The draw being to play with a generational talent.

Spurs are also a 7-win team this year. Sure, Wemby has appeal, but is going to ink his prime with a team that's not even close to sniffing the playoffs this year? After losing the first 5 years of his career?

 

[iowamcnabb]

Spurs are also a 7-win team this year. Sure, Wemby has appeal, but is going to ink his prime with a team that's not even close to sniffing the playoffs this year? After losing the first 5 years of his career?

yeh just depends on how quickly Monk thinks they can turn it around and how this season ends. Hopefully they trade back for Murray and end that possibility

 

[ShastaKingsFan]

The Kings are currently in fifth place with a 23-14 record. But they are only three games behind the two leaders, the Thunder and Timberwolves, at 26-11.

This team has a chance to finish first.

Records can be deceiving after less than half the season. I don't think McNair and Brown believe they have a chance to win the Western Conference.

 

[Caccia]

Records can be deceiving after less than half the season. I don't think McNair and Brown believe they have a chance to win the Western Conference.

I was just looking at Milwaukee's lineup against Golden State last night and thinking, "How in the world will the Kings, with their unstable rotations, beat the Bucks, who have great players at every starting position?" The same goes for the Celtics. The Western Conference may be more competitive this year, but I think the Kings could beat any of the teams except New Orleans with Zion Williamson. After many years of dominance, the Western Conference is suddenly weaker.

I can't speak to Coach Brown's mindset, except to say he believes that, without better defense, the Kings cannot go to the NBA Finals. At least, that is what he has been saying since October.

 

[Showtime]

Whatever. You asked, I provided an answer. Nobody really cares one way or another unless they just want to argue and be pedantic.

Hali was traded. He's gone. Let it go. The trade worked out for both teams. Everyone should be happy.

"Everyone should think the way I do and if not ignore it" lol what a take.

Kings keep giving away generational talent and regardless of the circumstances surrounding it (I don't care) it needs to end if this team wants success.

 

[Warhawk]

"Everyone should think the way I do and if not ignore it" lol what a take.

Kings keep giving away generational talent and regardless of the circumstances surrounding it (I don't care) it needs to end if this team wants success.

It's not that everyone should think the way I do, it's that the trade has been discussed to death and the VAST majority (in retrospect) agree that it worked out for both teams. There really isn't an argument to say it hasn't given both team's improvements after the trade.

Generational talent? You are getting WAY ahead of yourself there. He's very good, but you are throwing that term out with no data to back it up. Last year with Hali the Pacers won 43% of their games. This year they have the exact same record as the Kings. The proof of the pudding is in the eating, as they say.

Fox and Domas are also very good in their own right. You keep conveniently ignoring that for some reason. At this point I value Domas more than Hali for the Kings. You may disagree, but "Everyone should think the way I do and if not ignore it", right? Or does that only apply to me and not you?

 

[Capt. Factorial]

Kings keep giving away generational talent and regardless of the circumstances surrounding it (I don't care) it needs to end if this team wants success.

Obviously many here disagree with the characterization of the Haliburton/Sabonis trade as being a "giveaway".

But you also say we "keep giving away generational talent". Outside of Haliburton, what generational talent have we been giving away?

 

[dude12]

"Everyone should think the way I do and if not ignore it" lol what a take.

Kings keep giving away generational talent and regardless of the circumstances surrounding it (I don't care) it needs to end if this team wants success.

Generational talent? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

 

[joemama]

 

[mrlaze]

Im interested in seeing this list of generational players we keep giving away like water through a seeve.

 

[joemama]

In all seriousness I think the conversion was with Monk leaving to play with Wemby (gen talent).

 

[NewArena]

I was just looking at Milwaukee's lineup against Golden State last night and thinking, "How in the world will the Kings, with their unstable rotations, beat the Bucks, who have great players at every starting position?" The same goes for the Celtics. The Western Conference may be more competitive this year, but I think the Kings could beat any of the teams except New Orleans with Zion Williamson. After many years of dominance, the Western Conference is suddenly weaker.

I can't speak to Coach Brown's mindset, except to say he believes that, without better defense, the Kings cannot go to the NBA Finals. At least, that is what he has been saying since October.

The top 3 teams in the east are tough but i think the Kings would kill most of those other squads. The west is much deeper and tougher IMO, even when you look at the garbage teams down below. San Antonio beat Detroit like they stole something the other day

 

[NewArena]

Obviously many here disagree with the characterization of the Haliburton/Sabonis trade as being a "giveaway".

But you also say we "keep giving away generational talent". Outside of Haliburton, what generational talent have we been giving away?

Ray McCallum and Seth Curry caused an uproar when we let them go. I see what he’s saying

 

[Warhawk]

Ray McCallum and Seth Curry caused an uproar when we let them go. I see what he’s saying

Don't forget Kings all-time great Drew Gooden.

 

[macadocious]

Maybe Jalen and cwebb made up?

https://twitter.com/statuses/1746954138112643341

 

[mrlaze]

I thought they did a few years ago. I know there was an espn interview or something iirc.

 

[kingsboi]

they are standing outside a liquor store so that may of done wonders

 

[ick300]

It’s so good that we aren’t facing Jazz soon ….
They look like a new team in the last 15 or so games

 

[NewArena]

It’s so good that we aren’t facing Jazz soon ….
They look like a new team in the last 15 or so games

We match up well with them. They weren't a bad team when we played them, we're just better.

 

[NewArena]

Maybe Jalen and cwebb made up?

https://twitter.com/statuses/1746954138112643341

This is nice to see. Their issues with each other got so deeply personal, i never like to see that.

 

[megapoxy]

Is there a certain thread about stats? I couldn't find one... so from the "Sacktown Giraffe" on twitter (or X) @TimMaxwell22 there are some stats regarding clutch time this season.

De’Aaron Fox in the clutch this season: 0/13 3P 19/47 FG (39%) 12/20 FT (60%)

Malik Monk, De’Aaron Fox, and Harrison Barnes have combined to shoot 6 of 37 (16%) from three-point range in the clutch this season.

Domantas Sabonis is shooting 71% from the field in clutch situations, but he has only attempted 17 field goals, compared to 48 for Fox and 34 for Monk. The Kings seem to completely forget about Sabonis in tight game situations.

Usage rates in regular season vs clutch Fox: 30.7% | 38.2% Monk: 23.8% | 26.2% Sabonis 22.3% | 15.8% Murray 18.7% | 12.1% Huerter 17.5% | 15.7% Barnes 13.3% | 9.9% Every rotational player but Monk and Fox sees their usage decline.

From 16 matches this season that the final score margin was less than 10 points, Sacramento won 11 of those, losing only 5 (among them the last 2... painful ones). So it doesn't make so much sense that Kings are usually effective winning close matches but having not so great efficiency by their star "clutch" player.