Kings and free agency - part 2
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I looked it up, teams can go over the cap to sign their first round rookies so Cauley-Stein's contract shouldn't count against our available cap space. That means we still have about $14 million in cap space remaining.
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If Darren isn't cool with the situation then things can quickly go awry.
Spacing is a concern still. Dallas had a lot of shooters and they dropped off offensively with Rondo on court. If Rajan doesn't drive then things will get tough.
And if Rondo does great? Does he just leave after?
I just don't find the payoff to be equal to the risk.
Spacing is a concern still. Dallas had a lot of shooters and they dropped off offensively with Rondo on court. If Rajan doesn't drive then things will get tough.
And if Rondo does great? Does he just leave after?
I just don't find the payoff to be equal to the risk.
that's a handy little find
that actually means we could do some crazy things like absorb Nene's $13mil ending contract, or help the Suns afford LMA by taking Markieff Morris and PJ Tucker off their hands, THEN go ahead and sign WCS, add Omri on the Room MLE, one or two rumored names on vet mins, and be ready to rumble.
that actually means we could do some crazy things like absorb Nene's $13mil ending contract, or help the Suns afford LMA by taking Markieff Morris and PJ Tucker off their hands, THEN go ahead and sign WCS, add Omri on the Room MLE, one or two rumored names on vet mins, and be ready to rumble.
Media narrative (though accurate in pieces)
Before July 1:
"OMG the Kings are a dumpster fire, anyone they convince to come there will be 3rd tier and have to be overpaid. Plus they have no cap space."
After today:
"OMG the Kings got a bunch of 3rd tier FA's, overpaid for one and gave up way too much for Cap Space -- What a dumpster fire"
I'd like to know what any of the major talking heads expected as a best-case given the circumstances. I think Vlade may have made us some lemonade.
Before July 1:
"OMG the Kings are a dumpster fire, anyone they convince to come there will be 3rd tier and have to be overpaid. Plus they have no cap space."
After today:
"OMG the Kings got a bunch of 3rd tier FA's, overpaid for one and gave up way too much for Cap Space -- What a dumpster fire"
I'd like to know what any of the major talking heads expected as a best-case given the circumstances. I think Vlade may have made us some lemonade.
I don't think that's right. Yeah you can go over the cap to sign them but the scale salary is included in team salary.
From Larry Coon CBA FAQ #52
It does actually help to not sign him though, since it's typical that rookies get 120 percent of scal salary, so by holding off we're actually only saving that extra 20 percent
From Larry Coon CBA FAQ #52
It does actually help to not sign him though, since it's typical that rookies get 120 percent of scal salary, so by holding off we're actually only saving that extra 20 percent
As of Friday evening 7pm my brain is fried, diced and sliced following this FA stuff and the Kings. So here is my FA update related to Kings:
GONE
Matthews signing with Mavs
Tobias Harris to sign with Magic 6/$64M
Patrick Beverley to sign with Rockets 4/$25M
Jared Dudley to sign back east
Our Derrick Williams signing with Knicks for 2/$10!!!
Kings to sign:
Rondo for 1/$9M
Belinelli 6-5 3-pt shooter for 3/$19M
James Anderson 6-6 SG multi-year but no $$ known yet
Kingsa apparently talking with Kostas Koufos, Lou Williams, Miroslav Radujica a 7ft 250 Serb whose 27 yr, Quincy Acy (?), Lou Williams, Jeremy Lin and possibly Reggie Jackson. Likely more but those I confirmed this afternoon and early evening.
My head hurts
GONE
Matthews signing with Mavs
Tobias Harris to sign with Magic 6/$64M
Patrick Beverley to sign with Rockets 4/$25M
Jared Dudley to sign back east
Our Derrick Williams signing with Knicks for 2/$10!!!
Kings to sign:
Rondo for 1/$9M
Belinelli 6-5 3-pt shooter for 3/$19M
James Anderson 6-6 SG multi-year but no $$ known yet
Kingsa apparently talking with Kostas Koufos, Lou Williams, Miroslav Radujica a 7ft 250 Serb whose 27 yr, Quincy Acy (?), Lou Williams, Jeremy Lin and possibly Reggie Jackson. Likely more but those I confirmed this afternoon and early evening.
My head hurts
We really need to spend the majority of our cap space on the 2nd/3rd big depending on where you WCS right now.
Kosta Koufos, Josh Smith are the two that will require the most money both have qualitys that will help. Both are upgrades from last year.
Jordan Hill, Brandon Bass. Both role playing bigs that could start slight upgrade or even with JT
Andray Blatche, Kevin Seraphin, biyimbo, Reggie Evans, cole Aldrich, all 3rd and 4th bigs definitely.
Really need WCS to hit that potential early unless we get one of the top guys
Kosta Koufos, Josh Smith are the two that will require the most money both have qualitys that will help. Both are upgrades from last year.
Jordan Hill, Brandon Bass. Both role playing bigs that could start slight upgrade or even with JT
Andray Blatche, Kevin Seraphin, biyimbo, Reggie Evans, cole Aldrich, all 3rd and 4th bigs definitely.
Really need WCS to hit that potential early unless we get one of the top guys
Fegan pulling more crap that the Kings aren't having any of. I could totally see Fegan using Casspi's situation to screw the Kings over. Probably asking for the rest of the Kings space or something. I think it's too early in the process for us to already decide we aren't resigning him. Hopefully just negotiation frustration
I've been intrigued at the prospect of Rondo playing here for years, and I finally get to see it play out on the court.
I also prefer the 1-yr deal over a long-term deal, because it suggests that Rondo still has game left.
If he sucked like most people say he does, he would have cashed out with a multi-year deal.
The fact that he signed here, and obviously wants to prove he can still play at a high level, then after he does he can get PAID with the crazy money that will be thrown around next year, is a good sign.
BTW - where's all those KingsFans who were wailing just hours ago that the Stouskas trade was the worst ever? Where's the impatient, hyper-critical guys?
Rondo + Bellinelli is highly likely better than Landry, JT, Stouskas, and a 15+ draft pick.
I guess we'll see.
I also prefer the 1-yr deal over a long-term deal, because it suggests that Rondo still has game left.
If he sucked like most people say he does, he would have cashed out with a multi-year deal.
The fact that he signed here, and obviously wants to prove he can still play at a high level, then after he does he can get PAID with the crazy money that will be thrown around next year, is a good sign.
BTW - where's all those KingsFans who were wailing just hours ago that the Stouskas trade was the worst ever? Where's the impatient, hyper-critical guys?
Rondo + Bellinelli is highly likely better than Landry, JT, Stouskas, and a 15+ draft pick.
I guess we'll see.
we already had 10m in capspace(rondo cost). belinelli costed roughly 6m and change. are you telling me we couldn't swing a smaller deal to free up to get beli without burning through all those assets?
