Kings after Ingram
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Again though, the biggest issue last season was Monte ran it back by picking up pieces or keeping pieces that weren't difference makers nor had tremendous upside. Sasha did, but we saw what happened there. Players like Lyles are good, but they don't change anything. Picking up Sasha doesn't mean much if he's fighting for minutes at a position that doesn't really get much time to begin with. Duarte was a gamble that when seen last, didn't look so good on the floor. Monte definitely needs to get off of Huerter right now, but other than that, the Kings have a nice young core that they kind of lucked into with Keegan, Keon, and now Carter. That has infinitely more upside than stacking late 20's/nearing or over 30's types like last offseason. Sure, the young guys could fizzle out, but there is far more upside to the team in a worst case this season. The Kings long term have two positions to fill, SG/F. It's possible the SG spot is now full. That's a major step in the right direction.
Huerter is the issue in the sense that Monk, Carter, and Keon makes him towel waver unless they flop. I'd say odds of towelwaving is far more likely than flop. Even so, Brown has continuously looked for answers that supplant Huerter starting in the Warriors playoff series. Huerter is the best shooter, but the Kings are looking for more out of that position and the team in general.
Tobias Harris for the full MLE would be a coup for Monte. We keep our 1st round picks and still have great depth with HB and Huerter.
The Kings would be stacked 2 deep and keep their salary cap flexibility to re-sign Keegan in a couple of years.
PF: Harris / HB / Lyles
SF: Keegan / Huerter
C Sabonis / Len / Lyles
SG Ellis / Monk / Jones
PG: Fox / Carter
The Kings would be stacked 2 deep and keep their salary cap flexibility to re-sign Keegan in a couple of years.
PF: Harris / HB / Lyles
SF: Keegan / Huerter
C Sabonis / Len / Lyles
SG Ellis / Monk / Jones
PG: Fox / Carter
I just can''t see any one of LaVine/Ingram/Kuzma/Jeremi Grant putting the Kings over the top last season was the year to do it with Zinger/Holiday types, I think this might be the time to go for 2 "flexible" pieces To me the only guy that's really worth it that might be on the trading block is Lauri
There is a big difference between drafting Devin Carter at #13 this year and drafting Colby Jones at #34 + Jalen Slawson at #54 last year. Jones and Slawson played no meaningful role in the team's overall success this season -- Carter will in 2024-2025. Other moves need to be made of course, but this is a pretty significant detail to gloss right over.
First off, the 1st two things you mentioned negate the last. It’s not a “run it back” situation, nor was it last season. It’s as if many KINGS fans are under the delusion that half the roster or most the starting lineup has to change for it not to be.
Secondly, have you discussed it with Vivek? Or do you have a close personal contact that has (and shared that info with you)?
If not, you have no idea what Vivek’s thought process is or what he will accept. You’re simply speculating w/o any first hand info to base the your speculation.
Secondly, have you discussed it with Vivek? Or do you have a close personal contact that has (and shared that info with you)?
If not, you have no idea what Vivek’s thought process is or what he will accept. You’re simply speculating w/o any first hand info to base the your speculation.
I was starting to believe I was only one understanding this simple concept. There's just far too much impatience around here.
Look, I get it. We ALL want not only a perennial playoff contender, but a championship contender. At the very least, a team built to go deep into the postseason. Especially after going what seemed like eons w/o making a postseason appearance.
I also understand the argument "we've been patient for long enough!". While that may be true, that was under different leadership. This is the time where being patient is even more important, because do any of us want to back to where this franchise came from (circa 2007 - 2022)?
I sure don't. Growing impatient and making moves just for the sake of making moves and/or to present the image to some that you aren't "running it back" is one way to get there.
As for the notion that McNair is running out of time, I ask "why"?
He's in the midst of his 4th offseason with this org in an attempt to fix and undo what was done before him. He inherited Luke Walton, Bagley, Buddy, and an otherwise WEAK roster outside of Fox and Haliburton. YET, by season #3 this franchise ended it's 16 year postseason streak and has now posted 2-consecutive winning seasons for the first time since 2005/2006.
Danny Ainge has one less year in Utah and that franchise has gone BACKWARDS the past 2-seasons, posting consecutive losing seasons after initially doing well in Ainge's first year there. Yet I hear nothing about Ainge running out of time. What Ainge accomplished elsewhere is immaterial. Only what he does in Utah matters to that org.
Same goes for McNair in SAC. And after two 30/31 win seasons cleaning up Vlade's mess -- he's got this franchise headed in the right direction. So what if they haven't won a postseason series yet? We all know that's a technicality, anyway, as the KINGS should have won their 2023 series against Golden State. And even if they had then busted out the very next round, does that really change or mean anything?
The fact is, they are developing into a winning franchise. Despite not qualifying for the "real" postseason last season. And becoming a winning org is the first step toward a more grand future.
Why risk destroying all that progress in an odd attempt just to say you've "won a playoff series"? IMO, if they stay the course, remain patient, and make the smart moves that present themselves -- they'll eventually win some postseason series. Maintaining continuity with their coaching staff, players and their winning ways is more important than postseason results right now.
Just don't do anything stupid and the rest will likely take care of itself. Impatience and stupidity is what got this org into trouble in the first place.
Look, I get it. We ALL want not only a perennial playoff contender, but a championship contender. At the very least, a team built to go deep into the postseason. Especially after going what seemed like eons w/o making a postseason appearance.
I also understand the argument "we've been patient for long enough!". While that may be true, that was under different leadership. This is the time where being patient is even more important, because do any of us want to back to where this franchise came from (circa 2007 - 2022)?
I sure don't. Growing impatient and making moves just for the sake of making moves and/or to present the image to some that you aren't "running it back" is one way to get there.
As for the notion that McNair is running out of time, I ask "why"?
He's in the midst of his 4th offseason with this org in an attempt to fix and undo what was done before him. He inherited Luke Walton, Bagley, Buddy, and an otherwise WEAK roster outside of Fox and Haliburton. YET, by season #3 this franchise ended it's 16 year postseason streak and has now posted 2-consecutive winning seasons for the first time since 2005/2006.
Danny Ainge has one less year in Utah and that franchise has gone BACKWARDS the past 2-seasons, posting consecutive losing seasons after initially doing well in Ainge's first year there. Yet I hear nothing about Ainge running out of time. What Ainge accomplished elsewhere is immaterial. Only what he does in Utah matters to that org.
Same goes for McNair in SAC. And after two 30/31 win seasons cleaning up Vlade's mess -- he's got this franchise headed in the right direction. So what if they haven't won a postseason series yet? We all know that's a technicality, anyway, as the KINGS should have won their 2023 series against Golden State. And even if they had then busted out the very next round, does that really change or mean anything?
The fact is, they are developing into a winning franchise. Despite not qualifying for the "real" postseason last season. And becoming a winning org is the first step toward a more grand future.
Why risk destroying all that progress in an odd attempt just to say you've "won a playoff series"? IMO, if they stay the course, remain patient, and make the smart moves that present themselves -- they'll eventually win some postseason series. Maintaining continuity with their coaching staff, players and their winning ways is more important than postseason results right now.
Just don't do anything stupid and the rest will likely take care of itself. Impatience and stupidity is what got this org into trouble in the first place.
If it's between Ingram/LaVine I'm taking LaVine plus I think the Bulls are offering a first as well. The fact LaVine can hit 3's puts him over the top imo.
Fox/LaVine/Murray/Sabonis just fits way better than Fox/Murray/Ingram/Sabonis. Ingram imo you only go for if you are packaging Murray + assets for a All-Star.
Fox/LaVine/Murray/Sabonis just fits way better than Fox/Murray/Ingram/Sabonis. Ingram imo you only go for if you are packaging Murray + assets for a All-Star.
