Kings after Ingram

[ockingsfan]

The Nuggets ranked 30th in 3-point attempts last season and have since lost the players with the third-most (KCP) and fourth-most (Jackson) attempts on the team.

I wonder where the spacing is going to come from outside the core starters next season.

— Zach Kram (@zachkram) June 30, 2024

Would a Huerter cheer them up?

Sure, Huerter for a first round pick and it's done!

 

[Section 101]

The Nuggets ranked 30th in 3-point attempts last season and have since lost the players with the third-most (KCP) and fourth-most (Jackson) attempts on the team.

I wonder where the spacing is going to come from outside the core starters next season.

— Zach Kram (@zachkram) June 30, 2024

Would a Huerter cheer them up?

Dont see any way it can happen. Looking at their cap situation they are screwed. This is what the Kings need to avoid with a BI trade.

 

[LPKingsFan]

Dont see any way it can happen. Looking at their cap situation they are screwed. This is what the Kings need to avoid with a BI trade.

I’d be happy to win a title and then be screwed.

 

[Insomniacal Fan]

Eh, they beat NOP plenty up until last season. Last season was an anomaly, not the rule. Otherwise are your really going to expect the KINGS to sweep the Lakers every season going forward, too? And also beat Jokić 3-1 going forward?

There’s far too many people making too much out of this Pelicans thing.

Losing to a team 6 times in a year before the playoffs isn't just an anomaly, it's a record

 

[LoungeLizard]

Monte leads the league in almost traded for….. transactions.

he is the league rube used to drive up the value of real trade partners

Did Monte dump your sister or something? 2 contributions to this thread and both implying Monte isn’t really trying to do anything. Believe me, the whole board is well aware of where you stand on him.

 

[iowamcnabb]

Dont see any way it can happen. Looking at their cap situation they are screwed. This is what the Kings need to avoid with a BI trade.

how do we avoid it? The 10 percent increase in the cap will help over the life of our core’s contracts I suppose

 

[Tetsujin]

Did Monte dump your sister or something? 2 contributions to this thread and both implying Monte isn’t really trying to do anything. Believe me, the whole board is well aware of where you stand on him.

Just trying to find his GM friend a job

 

[sactowndog]

Did Monte dump your sister or something? 2 contributions to this thread and both implying Monte isn’t really trying to do anything. Believe me, the whole board is well aware of where you stand on him.

excuse me. I’m not implying

and I didn’t say he wasn’t trying.

 

[Section 101]

how do we avoid it? The 10 percent increase in the cap will help over the life of our core’s contracts I suppose

2 Max contracts, 2 contracts in the $20-25 mil range gets you right at the cap most likely over. Your filling out the roster with the MLE, rookies and vet minimum.

 

[sactowndog]

Just trying to find his GM friend a job

Haha nope. Just a grumpy 30 year Kings fan.

 

[The_Jamal]

Just trying to find his GM friend a job

"DRAFT A WING AT ALL COSTS"

"Who would you have drafted?"

"I dunno, a pure C?"

Classic.

 

[SacTownKid]

how do we avoid it? The 10 percent increase in the cap will help over the life of our core’s contracts I suppose

The Nuggets are actually playing this smart IMO. The new CBA makes it very hard to justify overpaying your role guys if anything. Keeping your talent core together is the key. Going over the 2nd apron for KCP would've been dumb TBH. If they didn't look kind meh again come playoff time they probably keep him. As for the Kings, they scored on draft night, and have Keegan on a rookie deal still. That's 2 very much potential answers long term tied up for little while to where Monte can load up, and then explode the cap. Ingram right now with that considering if it's Barnes/Huerter/picks is worth the go for it. Better to enter cap hell with cheap core pieces and Ingram than Huerter and Barnes just walking in time.

 

[sactowndog]

"DRAFT A WING AT ALL COSTS"

"Who would you have drafted?"

"I dunno, a pure C?"

Classic.

haha nice try. And I suspect Ware could play stretch 4 but didn’t look at DaSilva, Ware and Knect to have a firm opinion.

 

[sactowndog]

If he signs an extension, I honestly don’t care.

Why would you not care. You would still be short wings. You have to keep Keegan or why bother.

 

[The_Jamal]

haha nice try. And I suspect Ware could play stretch 4 but didn’t look at DaSilva, Ware and Knect to have a firm opinion.

you realize that's silly right?

How can you bash Monte for not taking a wing, when you have no idea on the wings in the class?

 

[sactowndog]

you realize that's silly right?

How can you bash Monte for not taking a wing, when you have no idea on the wings in the class?

From what I read about Ware he shot the 3’s well in workouts. One site had him mocked to us partly due to that. I didn’t know how accurate it was which was why I was so indecisive among the 3. But I would have for sure expected the board to fall somewhat like that and been ready to make a call.

 

[iowamcnabb]

2 Max contracts, 2 contracts in the $20-25 mil range gets you right at the cap most likely over. You’re filling out the roster with the MLE, rookies and vet minimum.

That’s tough when your two max guys aren’t top ten players and one of them is not a go to crunch time scorer. This is tough stuff with the new CBA.

 

[ockingsfan]

The thing about trading for BI is that he is going to want the max or close to max contract to re-sign. It would put the Kings in salary cap hell for years. I'm not sure a core of Fox-Sabonis-BI would be title contenders.

It may be better to go after a more cost controlled player (i.e. Grant William, Jermai Grant or even Kuzma) to fill in the stretch 4 and allow Keegan to blossom, rather than to mortgage the whole salary cap and future that BI is the missing piece to a championship.

 

[iowamcnabb]

The thing about trading for BI is that he is going to want the max or close to max contract to re-sign. It would put the Kings in salary cap hell for years. I'm not sure a core of Fox-Sabonis-BI would be title contenders.

It may be better to go after a more cost controlled player (i.e. Grant William, Jermai Grant or even Kuzma) to fill in the stretch 4 and allow Keegan to blossom, rather than to mortgage the whole salary cap and future that BI is the missing piece to a championship.

I get it but on the other hand Boston has like 4 all star level players. All these teams are stacked and if we are being totally honest a Fox Sabonis duo is prob not good enough talent wise to really win the big prize. We are prob going to have to swing in a non traditional way to truly compete.

I have mixed feelings on it but I can also see why Monte goes for it

 

[Sac.Kings]

The thing about trading for BI is that he is going to want the max or close to max contract to re-sign. It would put the Kings in salary cap hell for years. I'm not sure a core of Fox-Sabonis-BI would be title contenders.

It may be better to go after a more cost controlled player (i.e. Grant William, Jermai Grant or even Kuzma) to fill in the stretch 4 and allow Keegan to blossom, rather than to mortgage the whole salary cap and future that BI is the missing piece to a championship.

I suspect, if we are still in the BI hunt, that we are currently assessing a guarantee to resign right now and what that would look like financially. He isn’t worth max money, but he’s certainly no scrub either. Gotta make a move at some point though we clearly aren’t good enough as it stands.

Thing is, should we get BI, with all the massive changes the West is seeing right now, we could be in play to be top 4 if everything goes relatively well.

 

[ockingsfan]

I get it but on the other hand Boston has like 4 all star level players. All these teams are stacked and if we are being totally honest a Fox Sabonis duo is prob not good enough talent wise to really win the big prize. We are prob going to have to swing in a non traditional way to truly compete.

I have mixed feelings on it but I can also see why Monte goes for it

Yes, but someone that is already under contract for a few years in the $18-30 mil/yr range would be better than having to sign BI for something like 4 years $200 mil next off season.

I think the rumor is BI wants the max and that NO is not willing to do that and is why he is being shopped.

 

[iowamcnabb]

Yes, but someone that is already under contract for a few years in the $18-30 mil/yr range would be better than having to sign BI for something like 4 years $200 mil next off season.

yeh it’s certainly a possibility. I’ll trust that if they do it they think it’s their best shot with the core they have. We shall see

 

[ShastaKingsFan]

The thing about trading for BI is that he is going to want the max or close to max contract to re-sign. It would put the Kings in salary cap hell for years. I'm not sure a core of Fox-Sabonis-BI would be title contenders.

It may be better to go after a more cost controlled player (i.e. Grant William, Jermai Grant or even Kuzma) to fill in the stretch 4 and allow Keegan to blossom, rather than to mortgage the whole salary cap and future that BI is the missing piece to a championship.

He's not the missing piece to this team's championship. I question whether he's even the missing piece to winning 2 rounds.

 

[Fantazija]

The Kings are not trading Keegan for an expiring deal. Please.

Very much hope so

 

[iowamcnabb]

"For now, there's only been exploratory interest from Sacramento in an Ingram pursuit," Scotto wrote Sunday.

This was earlier in the day. I wonder if this has grown any since then

 

[reptilexcq2]

Keegan > Ingram...imo.

Kings should trade Barnes+Huerter for matching salary and then ONE 1st round pick unprotected and 1st pick protected top 10. Kings need to be aggressive.

 

[Sac.Kings]

Keegan > Ingram...imo.

Kings should trade Barnes+Huerter for matching salary and then ONE 1st round pick unprotected and 1st pick protected top 10. Kings need to be aggressive.

Not at this point, but maybe down the line. Ingram is a proven scorer and is a difficult matchup. One of the most difficult to guard when he has it going. His issue has been injuries, but offensively the edge goes to Ingram. Averaged 20-5-5 last season. Nothing to scoff at.

 

[Makaveli]

We aren’t getting Brandon Ingram just pushing the same duo we have pushed on every other team in the nba. Nobody is gonna give up much for Barnes and huerter

 

[White_Chocolate]

We aren’t getting Brandon Ingram just pushing the same duo we have pushed on every other team in the nba. Nobody is gonna give up much for Barnes and huerter

I would think some form Barnes and Huerter and two first and two seconds in either a two or three team trade would get it done

 

[SacTownKid]

The thing about trading for BI is that he is going to want the max or close to max contract to re-sign. It would put the Kings in salary cap hell for years. I'm not sure a core of Fox-Sabonis-BI would be title contenders.

It may be better to go after a more cost controlled player (i.e. Grant William, Jermai Grant or even Kuzma) to fill in the stretch 4 and allow Keegan to blossom, rather than to mortgage the whole salary cap and future that BI is the missing piece to a championship.

The good thing is if the Kings are just trading ancillary pieces, you have a year to see what your ceiling is. The Kings are heading into cap hell if they keep their team together as is anyway. The question they have to ask is whether or not they want to be a little over the cap hell line with less talent, or way over with a LOT more talent. You either want to be where the Knicks are, or get ready to start rebuilding/keep scouring the drafts for a hidden gem.