KG wants out???!!!

Venom said:
I don't know how good an Artest-KG pairing would be. They're both intense, both think they're the alpha dog but neither really is. Although Artest is certainly closer than KG. I think that KG has been exposed these past two years. We can talk about the talent around him, how McHale sucks, and all that, but the T-Wolves have just not been competitive. At all. What other former MVP in his prime has had two abysmal seasons in a row like KG? Miller would have to be a part of the deal. KG doesn't mix well with offensively skilled, but defensively liable, white dudes.

I would much rather pair Artest with a younger player who is more skilled than him. This way, Artest can maintain the mentor/leader role which he desires, enjoys, and excels at, while not having to carry the burden of the offense. I would not, under any circumstances, take the reins away from Artest. He needs to be in control, and he needs the team to be his. He performs exceptionally well when those caveats are met.

lol that part made me laugh

As for the second paragraph..thats an interesting point- i do believe its one to be considered.

Look at the Lakers - they had all super stars (Malone, payton, shaq, kobe, blah blah), and lost to a team that played better team ball (pistons)- always something to consider.
 
JJ22L said:
Perhaps if you force fed some of the drugs you are smoking to the twolves...they would even listen to that...:)

Come on now, we don't want to trade our whole team away with getting KG, but we should definately throw in Miller with K9, Corliss, Cisco, 1st round pick
I'd like to keep SAR off the bench behind KG if at all possible, but his low $ contract and what he brings compared to K9 is going to be hard to keep him, there's such a disparity there between salary, attitude, producing off the bench, post up skills, height, etc etc---Why the heck aren't we starting SAR again :-)
 
PFFFT!! said:
SAR will remain a King. I don't even think KG will ever become a King

Probable and probable.

Nonetheless, I would cheerfully trot out my Bibby/Bonzi/Artest/KG/Dr. Ruth starting lineup, no matter WHAT it took in trade to get it, and feel, and rightfully so, that I would have a significant shot at a title. Might not get it. The personalities might combust. But that would be one serious crew, almost no matter who/what you saurrounded them with.
 
It seems like the team in the best position to make a move for Garnett would the Bulls:

1) They're in the east: Teams usually trade their stars out of their conference a la the lakers moving Shaq.

2) the bulls have the #16 pick and a top 5 pick from the knicks this year as well as the knicks pick next year...much better than our #19 pick. A future pick would surely be in the 20s if we added Garnett to a lineup that included artest & bonzi.

3) the bulls have $15 million - $20 million in cap space


Obviously I would love it if we could get KG, but it doesn't seem realistic.
 
Bricklayer said:
Probable and probable.

Nonetheless, I would cheerfully trot out my Bibby/Bonzi/Artest/KG/Dr. Ruth starting lineup, no matter WHAT it took in trade to get it, and feel, and rightfully so, that I would have a significant shot at a title. Might not get it. The personalities might combust. But that would be one serious crew, almost no matter who/what you saurrounded them with.

If it makes you drool at thinking about having a team like that, what makes you think that competing teams would LET us have a team like that. Minnesota would want no part of our team and would shun away from a trade with us due to that reason. Its a pipe dream.
 
I would also say this is just another rumor.

I would imagine if we had any chance at getting KG, Artest would have to be involved. Short contract, our best player. We are not going to give up duds for one of the best players in the league. I don't see the T-Wolves wanting anyone but the two young guns, artest they may want Bibby but not really sure and of course they would want draft picks for the next 20 years.

Do the kings trade Artest after last year? I say for KG you trade anyone the T-Wolves want.

T-Wolves - Hey what would you give us for KG
Petrie - You name what you want and its yours!
 
BigWaxer said:
I would also say this is just another rumor.

I would imagine if we had any chance at getting KG, Artest would have to be involved. Short contract, our best player. We are not going to give up duds for one of the best players in the league. I don't see the T-Wolves wanting anyone but the two young guns, artest they may want Bibby but not really sure and of course they would want draft picks for the next 20 years.

Do the kings trade Artest after last year? I say for KG you trade anyone the T-Wolves want.

T-Wolves - Hey what would you give us for KG
Petrie - You name what you want and its yours!

while i'm inclined to agree with you, its also pertinent to make sure you don't end up just like the wolves, with garnett as your only major piece and a bunch of subpar roleplayers who can't help get the job done. it'd be important to retain some sort of core. you'd need bibby/artest/KG or wells/artest/KG or bibby/wells/KG. some combination of 3 of those 4 guys, preferably with kevin martin and shareef abdur rahim coming off the bench, and that's something to build a title contender around. you just gotta build quickly, cuz KG's knees aren't gonna last forever, and a title needs to be in sight just for him to be content enough to regain his intensity and MVP-caliber play.
 
I will wait and see if this is true, nothing to get overexcited about. Chances are its not true though id love for it to be true. To be real, KG is going to have to take a considerable paycut if he wants to come here. The fact that Artest might consider KG as a threat to him being the team leader could become a serious problem. Artest needs to be in control for him not to explode.
 
Sac.Kings said:
I will wait and see if this is true, nothing to get overexcited about. Chances are its not true though id love for it to be true. To be real, KG is going to have to take a considerable paycut if he wants to come here. The fact that Artest might consider KG as a threat to him being the team leader could become a serious problem. Artest needs to be in control for him not to explode.

Au contraire. It's The Dreaded Off-Season. Normally, this is just the type of thing we get over-excited about.

:p
 
Alacron said:
This Trade Succeeded!

Sacramento Kings

Incoming Players

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Kevin Garnett
Salary: $18,000,000 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 21.8 REB: 12.7 AST: 4.1 PER: 26.88

Outgoing Players: Vitaly Potapenko, Kenny Thomas, Jason Hart, Corliss Williamson, Campbell's Chunky Savory Pot Roast Soup

Minnesota Timberwolves

Incoming Players

Vitaly Potapenko
Salary: $3,325,416 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 2.5 REB: 1.9 AST: 0.3 PER: 7.55
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Kenny Thomas
Salary: $8,183,769 Years Remaining: 4
PTS: 9.1 REB: 7.5 AST: 2.0 PER: 15.08

Jason Hart
Salary: $1,540,000 Years Remaining: 0
PTS: 3.3 REB: 1.1 AST: 1.1 PER: 7.10
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Corliss Williamson
Salary: $6,000,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 3.4 REB: 1.8 AST: 0.4 PER: 8.17

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Campbell's Chunky Savory Pot Roast Soup
Salary: $1.99 Years Remaining: unlimited if unopened
PTS: 0.0 REB: 3.9 AST: 0.0 CAL: 240


Outgoing Players: Kevin Garnett
~~

P.S. Note that even the soup rebounds better than Miller in the playoffs!

nice alacron
 
that aside, i also would love to see KG in King's Purple. If it can happen, Petrie will make it happen. I just don't want to see Artest/Wells/Martin gone to make it happen. I'd prefer we keep Bibby too.
 
Prophetess said:
that aside, i also would love to see KG in King's Purple. If it can happen, Petrie will make it happen. I just don't want to see Artest/Wells/Martin gone to make it happen. I'd prefer we keep Bibby too.

Technically we'd never see him in purple - at least not in person. But I think he'd look really good in a white jersey with "KINGS" written across the front. And I also bet he'd tell them exactly what to do with the special gold lamé outfits.

That alone would be worth whatever it took...

:p
 
In order to get KG, it will take either Bibby and Miller or resigned Bonzi and Miller plus draft picks. I think this would be a fair deal for both teams. The Wolves can't just trade KG for Chicago's salary cap space and draft picks because NBA requires a trade to be contracts for contracts (difference has to be within 15% in monetary term). So, I do think the Kings can over probably one of the best deal to the Wolves if KG really wants to leave.
 
It's part of TDOS tradition, Circa. Every year about this time we start our "KG to the Kings" thread. We've done it for so long it just wouldn't feel right not to have it. We'll probably continue to do even after he's retired.

Hey, I'm still lobbying to get Dennis Rodman.

:p
 
VF21 said:
Technically we'd never see him in purple - at least not in person. But I think he'd look really good in a white jersey with "KINGS" written across the front. And I also bet he'd tell them exactly what to do with the special gold lamé outfits.

That alone would be worth whatever it took...

:p

don't really care what color or if it was in person. As long as he wears a jersey that says KINGS. ;)

and yeah hearing them be told how lame the gold looks would be sooooo worth it.
 
I would say Bibby/Miller is okay to trade for KG, but we are already lacking dreadfully at PG. We would have to find another or two quick!!
 
VF21 said:
It's part of TDOS tradition, Circa. Every year about this time we start our "KG to the Kings" thread. We've done it for so long it just wouldn't feel right not to have it. We'll probably continue to do even after he's retired.

Hey, I'm still lobbying to get Dennis Rodman.

:p

Can I start another Peja for Artest thread? I'm gonna miss those.
 
captain bill said:
Can I start another Peja for Artest thread? I'm gonna miss those.

Well, you can but I really don't think it would have the same impact.

You could always go to PacersDigest and do it. But please, don't tell them I suggested it.

:p
 
hmmm all this talk about Minn would want our young guys and they would never do it. Well i would think the same think had it not been for the Webber trade and the Shaq trade. we got no star power in the webber deal and Lakers only got Odom in that deal. So don't get glued in on the fact we have to give up a whole lot. When in fact a Miller, KT, Corlis might do the trick.
 
Just saw a little piece on KG on TNT.... guy needs to get out Minny! I'm just not sure that office can build a team around him again.
 
No matter who and what we’re willing to give up, the only real way to get Garnett is for him to demand to be traded here. I don’t see us getting Garnett on just talent alone. Other teams could put together more attractive (from Minny’s perspective) deals.

I want a Garnett/Artest/Bibby team.
 
Packt said:
No matter who and what we’re willing to give up, the only real way to get Garnett is for him to demand to be traded here. I don’t see us getting Garnett on just talent alone. Other teams could put together more attractive (from Minny’s perspective) deals.

I want a Garnett/Artest/Bibby team.

indeed. what a core that would be. if only it could happen....
 
Entity said:
hmmm all this talk about Minn would want our young guys and they would never do it. Well i would think the same think had it not been for the Webber trade and the Shaq trade. we got no star power in the webber deal and Lakers only got Odom in that deal. So don't get glued in on the fact we have to give up a whole lot. When in fact a Miller, KT, Corlis might do the trick.

That's only if the Wolves decide that they want to trade KG. With LA and the Kings, the teams decided they needed to trade their stars; it was then a matter of putting together more than other teams would. Cheap can get it done: while fans on boards can give up a lot of guys in seemingly logical swaps, actual teams are far less likely to do so (like how every fan in the universe has given up on Kenyon Martin yet, oddly enough, the Nuggets have not started airing TV ads declaring his availability. Or why, for example, players like Antoine Walker are still traded for.)

If, on the other hand, the TWolves are not actively looking to dump Garnett, it will take much more to get him: the other team has to offer much more compelling offers, since management probably thinks they can work with their current setup (and why not? You've got Kevin freaking Garnett to build around) they will ask for much more, an offer that really guarantees cotinued success.
 
Circa_1985_Fan said:
I dont want Garnett, and realistically, he's not coming here.
I have the same feeling. For a little while I toyed with it, but the guys 30 years old now. If we were to trade for him, anyone except bonzi, artest, and kmart.
 
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