Justin Williams - with summer league team!

Bricklayer said:
Well, maybe not the FT stuff, but that really is a minor thing for a defense/rebounding specialist. Look at Big Ben.

Turnovers might mean bad hands unfortunately. But again, not a disastrous problem for a guy who is not a huge cog in the offense (although note Dampier's stone hands effectively finishing the Mavs in the Finals).
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here's something about his hands:

Beyond his physical gifts, Williams is blessed with amazing timing and instincts in regards to challenging and intimidating around the rim. He often doesn’t even need to jump to block a shot, just positioning himself perfectly with his arms high in the air and pinning the ball to the glass in one quick, fluid motion. His massive hands help him out a great deal in this regard.
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http://www.draftexpress.com/viewprofile.php?p=346
 
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Awesome news!!! Good to see Muss making some moves in the right direction with this team. This guy is a GREAT shotblocker and can play PF easily. Very thin frame, but the numbers don't lie. He is a shotblocking machine. I hope he does very well in the summer league.
 
Can someone provide details about signing players who play for a team in the summer league? Do the Kings have first right to make an offer, and can he turn that down and join some other team if it makes a better offer?
 
Well he still has a long way to go. Most players in the summer league vanish before you ever see them.

But seeing how Muss called the guy before the draft was even over seems odd to me. Like they don't see him as just another camp invitee.
 
kingsfan101 said:
Can someone provide details about signing players who play for a team in the summer league? Do the Kings have first right to make an offer, and can he turn that down and join some other team if it makes a better offer?
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I believe unless you offer them some sort of contract that they can then go off and sign with anyone. Think an agent might be reluctant to do that just in that he wouldn't want to get a rep for screwing over teams who gave his guys a shot, but I'm pretty sure sans contract the guys are still free agents. So if he impresses, yeah, we might have to come up wiht more than a camp invite if somebody elese actually offered him a Price-like deal.
 
The whole second round I was watching for two names. One was Will Blalock (who ended up going with the final pick of the draft) and the other was Justin Williams (whose name never came up). I was hoping the Kings would go after him, but I didn't expect him to be locked up the day after the draft. Way to be proactive. I'm liking this Musselman guy already.
 
We basically got a second round pick with getting this guy on our VSL team. As this draft was quite deep with solid/good prospects and role-playing types.

Same will happen with Mike Gansey and Curtis Stinson for a couple teams.

reyes13 said:
I can't believe their actually starting to help the frontcourt out.
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Well, if you heard about Muss/Petrie saying a few times getting some interior d was a focus of the off-season... ;)

This is a nice step towards getting some in the FC.
 
Actually this thing reminds me of exactly the same scenario as last year with Ronnie Price. He was overlooked in the draft and Petrie was on the phone straight away and he was announced as a summer league team invitee the following day.

It wouldn't surprise me if JW actually ends up on the roster just like Ronnie Price did last year.
 
hrdboild said:
The whole second round I was watching for two names. One was Will Blalock (who ended up going with the final pick of the draft) and the other was Justin Williams (whose name never came up). I was hoping the Kings would go after him, but I didn't expect him to be locked up the day after the draft. Way to be proactive. I'm liking this Musselman guy already.
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I like the description. He sounds like Hilton Armstong with more heart, no question of intensiy, and better stats. HAha, ok, I'll let this one go :)
 
hes only 6'9 though, im pretty sure he went undrafted for a reason. And it says the best case scenario for him is melvin ely? i know its only a prediction but thats not very good. but then again who knows, he could be another ben wallace.
 
BibityBobtyBoom said:
hes only 6'9 though, im pretty sure he went undrafted for a reason. And it says the best case scenario for him is melvin ely? i know its only a prediction but thats not very good. but then again who knows, he could be another ben wallace.
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I think that's incorrect on Ely. From what I've gathered on him he's not like Ely. Simple player comparisions aren't always accurate.

Did you even read any significant amount of the profile? lol. If not, read it, chap. :)
 
From what I have seen of the guy, he is waaay more mobile than Ely. I think teams were turned off because ALL he does is rebound and block shots. Good thing for us thats all we would need him to do. He doesn't need to score, we have enough of that, most teams don't. They'll need 8-10 points a night from their big man.
 
well who else are you gonna get from the undrafted list if not Justin Williams? His stats show it all. 5.4 blocks a game, 11 rebounds and 11 points is pretty amazing in any level if you ask me. And his athleticism should make up for his 6'9 height.
 
BibityBobtyBoom said:
im just saying, im not too happy about the kings being interested in more undersized big men.
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Didn't answer my question... Did you even read any significant amount of the profile? It seems like from your posts, you have not.

6'9" isn't too undersized, and his length, athleticism make up for that. He just needs to add some upper body mass, which from what I've gathered he can and I'd say will.
 
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BibityBobtyBoom said:
hes only 6'9 though, im pretty sure he went undrafted for a reason. And it says the best case scenario for him is melvin ely? i know its only a prediction but thats not very good. but then again who knows, he could be another ben wallace.
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True but quite a few good NBA players went undrafted. Ben Wallace and Brad Miller off the top of my head are the 2 that were undrafted but both have been All-Stars in this league.
 
Udonis Haslem went undrafted as well. Went overseas, lost weight, worked on his game and look where he's been - a major contributor on a top team, and then championship team.

Not a big, but defensive stalwart and hustler Bruce Bowen went undrafted.
 
He is nothing like Melvin Ely: Justin is much thinner (though everybody who talked about his weight thinks that he is underdeveloped physically and will be able to add 20 or more pounds which is one of the reasons that held him back - he's 210 and will be severely outmuscled every time) and much more mobile. If he gets to 230 or 235 he will be PF version of Ben Wallace. Weight is the key for him.
Offensive skills? Very few and he probably was asked too much to do on offense for his skillset in Wyoming. That's the reason his TO numbers are so high.
 
HaraWish said:
According to report, his offense is not good. He cannot shoot and doesn't have skills such as post-up move or hook-shots. He just dunk and lay in within trasition or around the rim. Maybe that makes him undrafted.

Totally one-dimensional. However, OMG, 11rpg and 5.4bpg? One-dimensional but HUGE.
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Kinda sounds like Keon Clark.:p
 
HaraWish said:
According to report, his offense is not good. He cannot shoot and doesn't have skills such as post-up move or hook-shots. He just dunk and lay in within trasition or around the rim. Maybe that makes him undrafted.

Totally one-dimensional. However, OMG, 11rpg and 5.4bpg? One-dimensional but HUGE.
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So what if his offense isn't much, or will be much more? The guy would be out there for defense, rebounding, hustle points, and his explosive athleticism. He brings what is needed in our FC right now, and is a fine step to getting interior defense in our overall front-court.
 
hoops4kings said:
Kinda sounds like Keon Clark.:p
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Actually Keon had a little offense. One of the reasons him dropping out was such a waste.

But Muss already had both Adonal Foyle and Dampier as big men in Golden State so he may be able to deal with a no frills big who just does the things bigs are traditionally supposed to do.

We'll have to see -- those numbers were out there for every team to see, and yet they all passed. Maybe he's just too clunky and raw around the edges. But it would be a very good thing for us if he could make the team. Not as a starter, maybe not even as a rotation guy. But even as a spot guy, 4th/5th big or whatever and see if he develops, adds bulk, etc. This is not the guy who turns it around for us inside, but he could be part of a new flavor. Add him, THEN go out and get a bigger time guy who also does those things, and maybe, just maybe you start to get a critical mass of rebounders/shotblockers out there.
 
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Justin Williams doesn't need any offensive game to play for the Kings. Look at Dallas with Diop starting in their front court. The guy does all the little things like hustle, play defense, rebound, and block shots to help his team. Justin Williams has the potential to do that and more with the Kings.
 
Kings113 said:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/prospects - there's a video of Williams at #56

I'd think he wont have much more offense than he does now... but, he wouldn't be out there for his offense anyways.
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You know, that highlight tape was put together by an idiot. Yoohoo! Nobody wants to see a buch of Justin williams OFFENSIVE crap dip****. That's like putting togetehr a Ben Wakkce highlight reel and it consisting of a bunch of putbacks and shaky post moves. Entirely missing the point. The guy put up a triple double this season in pts, rebounds and BLOCKS. I'm sure nobody would be interested in THAT. :rolleyes:
 
I watched a couple Justin Williams games this year against BYU and Utah. He can play. Both games I saw he was the best player on the floor and by FAR. He dominated. I could easily see him play 10-15 minutes and average 5 boards and 1-2 blocks....this year. He's skinny, but he's a long, great athlete who hustles. I'm very excited about this.

Also saw that the Kings went out and got Yemi Nicholson and Louis Amundson for their summer league team. If this is true they got like 3 out of the top 5 undrafted guys....where's Gansey?
 
Well color me happy -- we got Nicholson on the summer league team too? Nifty. Both the smaller school raw bigs + see if either, or even better, both, is NBA worthy. Amundson...eh, we apparently like him, but when your top end is being a smaller Mark Madsen that would seem to spell out "waterboy". In any case, makes summer league one of the most intriguing its been in years. Lot of young sleepers + people to watch.
 
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