Just me or anyone else misses Bibby?

KingsInBrazil

KingsInBrazil

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Hes playing terrific in Atlanta and I see the Hawks a very dungerous team, the 2 oldest guys there are Bibby (30) and J.J (27) and they are already doing great... a few more pieces in their bench and I could see them as a contender...
 
Amen.
What's even sadder is that it appeared that we got absolutely nothing in return for him, just like in C-Webb's case
 
I totally agree. On a pure sentiment value. However i think he is a better pg than anyone we have on our roster. I also agree we didnt get anything of significant value in return for him. I just hope the soon to be Miller trade doesnt end up like the Bibby and Webber trade. If it does, it might be time to start questioning this "genious" Geoff Petrie.
 
yeah... expirings that we didnt use to sign anyone other than resign Beno and Cisco, an useless big in Shelden and a 2nd rounder that we used to draft Singletary, a guy who isnt even in the team anymore...

Id rather keep Bibby, by sentiment and his play cuz his trade really didnt help our rebuild effort...
 
Yeah..I'm not missing him. He wouldn't be doing that here. He needed a change of scenery and we needed to go into full rebuilding mode.
 
i will miss him more if he does this again next year; he's playing for a contract right now (and the change of scenery + more talented teammates haven't hurt, either).
 
I'm not missing him one bit. Ridiculous contract, and having him here would not be a move toward rebuilding.
 
Again, like the Beno thread, this one refuses to look at context.

At the time he was traded, Bibby was not performing well at all, had not been for a while, and had a giant contract. If he was playing well, I doubt he would have been traded.

Now, you can debate the reasons why he is performing differently now, etc., but you have to go back to the time he was traded and look at the reasons for why he is no longer here.....
 
I don't miss him at all. Old news. Bibby is playing ok with Atlanta because he's surrounded by incredible athletes that cover his athletic inadequacies. He didn't have that luxury here, and he's too old for a rebuilding team anyway.
 
I definitely miss him, however it was time for him to go elsewhere. He didn't fit the rebuilding effort. I love Bibby and wish him the best in the ATL. Good to see him playing well again, although he BLEW that easy layup last night that would have pulled the Hawks within 2.
 
So we are really rebuilding?! With likes of KT, Micky, Bobby Jackson stealing the time from our rookies and rebuilding with Beno as our future pg?! roflz We are doomed then...
I mean that Petrie should have been patient with all the trades he did, not just rashly throw away our best players for nothing. If Donte's experiment doesn't work out then it will turn out to be that Artest's trade didn't make any sense too
 
Definitely miss him here, but it was time for him to move on. I'm glad he is doing well. It's just amazing of all the talent that has bled away from the Kings with nothing to really show for it. Can't wait till it's 2010 when we get Lebron or Wade :rolleyes:.
 
Bibby had to go for us to move forward. No regrets there, although obviously what we got out of it turned out to be...pretty much nothing. Of course the frustrating part is just how S-L-O-W Geoff continually moves in consolidating those gains. Once you know what you are about, why the constant foot dragging? You have to make the Bibby move to go forward, but if you resume sitting on your hands it can all be for naught in the end.
 
I'd rather have Bibby getting our minutes than Mikki, KT, Brad, Beno and Salmons.. because they are not helping our rebuild either.

Unless complete sucking is rebuilding, because if it is then I think we should just call it that.
 
Bibby's in a better place now. As the oldest member of that team playing alongside a chock full of athletes, his weaknesses are less glaring. Also helps that guards that blow by Bibby have to meet a bonafide shotblocker in Josh Smith or a great post/perimeter defensive guy in Al Horford. It's not too surprising that, once he got his stroke back after leaving us, he would be useful for a team vying for the playoffs--lo and behold, the Hawks are 4th in the East.

I agree we got absolutely nil in the Bibby deal--Anthony Johnson, Tyronn Lue and Lorenzen Wright did not do absolutely anything for us, Shelden William's a bust (and we should've already known that when we traded for him), and that 2nd round pick should've been converted to a 1st round pick, and was anyhow used on a guy--Sean Singletary or Patrick Ewing Jr--that we had no use for, and thus was traded. So it was virtually nothing. In retrospect, this was a very poor Geoff deal, and although Bibby's value was sinking with us due to his bad shooting %'s, overall declining stats, and already latent bad defense, we definitely could've carved up a useful role player or even a 1st rounder in that deal.
 
Warhawk said:
Again, like the Beno thread, this one refuses to look at context.

At the time he was traded, Bibby was not performing well at all, had not been for a while, and had a giant contract. If he was playing well, I doubt he would have been traded.

Now, you can debate the reasons why he is performing differently now, etc., but you have to go back to the time he was traded and look at the reasons for why he is no longer here.....
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Not only was he playing badly, but it really looked like the beginning of a serious decline.

He's in a good spot, I'm happy for him, obviously I wish we had gotten more, but there's no indication at all that there was more out there. However, we absolutely needed to move on, and I don't miss him a bit.
 
No, I don’t miss Bibby. Both Mike and us needed to separate – it was time. He just needed a change and we needed to move in a different direction…But I’m glad that he’s doing well in Atlanta.
 
Arby's Roast Beef said:
Bibby's in a better place now. As the oldest member of that team playing alongside a chock full of athletes, his weaknesses are less glaring. Also helps that guards that blow by Bibby have to meet a bonafide shotblocker in Josh Smith or a great post/perimeter defensive guy in Al Horford. It's not too surprising that, once he got his stroke back after leaving us, he would be useful for a team vying for the playoffs--lo and behold, the Hawks are 4th in the East.

I agree we got absolutely nil in the Bibby deal--Anthony Johnson, Tyronn Lue and Lorenzen Wright did not do absolutely anything for us, Shelden William's a bust (and we should've already known that when we traded for him), and that 2nd round pick should've been converted to a 1st round pick, and was anyhow used on a guy--Sean Singletary or Patrick Ewing Jr--that we had no use for, and thus was traded. So it was virtually nothing. In retrospect, this was a very poor Geoff deal, and although Bibby's value was sinking with us due to his bad shooting %'s, overall declining stats, and already latent bad defense, we definitely could've carved up a useful role player or even a 1st rounder in that deal.
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The real problem is that Bibby, like Brad now, like almost everybody moved in this "rebuild" was just moved too damn late by our erstwhile genius GM. He drags his bleeping feet on EVERYTHING, hanging on, hanging on, "evaluating" (another way of saying not knowing what he wants to do), and waiting untilt he very last second when his hand is absolutely forced and the asset in question has lost almost all its value. I can't think of a single asset he has moved at or even very near peak value, Bibby certainly included. That's where the genius tag is looking the ost shopworn. Good talent evaluator (certain types of talent), but no foresight on display in forever. And so we get the least out of trade pieces, the least out of lottery years, because we simply do not plan ahead to maximize things. It always has to absolutely hit us on the head, and then we are left just getting whatever we can. Reactive, not proactive.
 
Bricklayer said:
The real problem is that Bibby, like Brad now, like almost everybody moved in this "rebuild" was just moved too damn late by our erstwhile genius GM. He drags his bleeping feet on EVERYTHING, hanging on, hanging on, "evaluating" (another way of saying not knowing what he wants to do), and waiting untilt he very last second when his hand is absolutely forced and the asset in question has lost almost all its value. I can't think of a single asset he has moved at or even very near peak value, Bibby certainly included. That's where the genius tag is looking the ost shopworn. Good talent evaluator (certain types of talent), but no foresight on display in forever. And so we get the least out of trade pieces, the least out of lottery years, because we simply do not plan ahead to maximize things. It always has to absolutely hit us on the head, and then we are left just getting whatever we can. Reactive, not proactive.
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You can make a legitimate argument that Bibby was moved too late, although back to back years with injuries affected that.

However, history does not really back this sentiment for the other players.

Christie was certainly moved at the right time. Same with Jason Williams, Abdul-Wahad and Pollard. Hedo wasn't moved early, but was for value and not too late.

Webb's trade value plummeted the second his keen collapsed. We were still contenders when this happened.

Ditto with Brad, who broke his leg the year we lost to the Sonics and showed up the next year out of shape and mediocre and slow and seems to have been shopped every since.

Peja we got a good return for. In theory, if we had traded him as soon as Webb's knee collapsed we may have gotten more, but then again, he was young enough to be part of a new core.

Bobby Jackson we could have shipped off sooner, but still got a good return for him. Did not wait too late.

Ron he actually held on long enough to see his trade value increase.

Now you can argue we should have started rebuilding sooner, but arguing that Petrie simply waited too long and let players age who had value is innacurate.
 
Despite my picture....I agree with Ryle. Happy for his current situation(young athletic team + being healthy + contract year) but his contract and therefore him had to move on for the sake of the franchise.
 
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