probably not start, but I can see them switching to that during the course of a game depending on matchups.
Jonas Valanciunas - KING
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probably not start, but I can see them switching to that during the course of a game depending on matchups.
Elektrik
Starter
Yeah he’s a beast. We needed that
Jkbiker
Starter
Well he did start in 12 of his 49 games this year so will probably depend on opponents bigs
Elektrik
Starter
Deebo is 35 and some consider him defensively challenged. I sure DON’T want to trade him, and his points and clutch ability.
coolhandluke
Starter
Fans: Kings need to get bigger.
Monte: Say no more. Here’s a Lithuanian bear!
Monte: Say no more. Here’s a Lithuanian bear!
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
It’s a long flight from New York to Sacramento though.
Makaveli
Bench
Be cool if he came walking in at like the 6:00 min mark in the 3rd quarter.
sactowndog
All-Star
you are joking right?
sactowndog
All-Star
right but how many in their 30’s defensively challenged players does 1 team need.
Insomniacal Fan
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Jonas is an impact player; although I wouldn't have thought that the priority for us in free agency (the trade market ) would be investing in the backup to our best player. Domas should play as many minutes as he's able, and if he gets injured, then we start making progress on a rebuild via the injured reserve list.
While I do think Len could be pressed into service as a 10 minute a game guy, JV is quite clearly an upgrade. Domas could take some games off and we'd have a chance to win. Also we have a different gear for the guys that Domas struggles against.
That said, this is a move that raises the team's floor, but it not the ceiling. The ball bounces higher if it falls farther.
While I do think Len could be pressed into service as a 10 minute a game guy, JV is quite clearly an upgrade. Domas could take some games off and we'd have a chance to win. Also we have a different gear for the guys that Domas struggles against.
That said, this is a move that raises the team's floor, but it not the ceiling. The ball bounces higher if it falls farther.
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Are you? I'm not talking about the Kings. I'm saying a competent organization the coach and GM are on the same page.
Example of incompetent: Nico and Kidd.
iowamcnabb
Hall of Famer
Didn’t see this posted
Chupacabra
Starter
We used some of the Spurs returns in the Fox trade to get him. So we basically traded Fox for Lavine, Valanciunas, 2 1st rounders, 4 2nd rounders. This after Fox or Rich Paul or whoever diminished Fox's trade value by speaking out publically about it and stating a preferred team. I'd say that's pretty good.
Elektrik
Starter
Just some observations
Teams after a six game road trip seem to play poorly on their first game back. Kings are.
Add in a new player with no practice time yet. Team looks disjointed
Fox had a lot of points in the paint.
Looks like Lavine caught that three point disease we’ve had all season long
Lots of turnovers tonight-not unexpected
kings Look tired. Real tired
Orlando hitting everything
Teams after a six game road trip seem to play poorly on their first game back. Kings are.
Add in a new player with no practice time yet. Team looks disjointed
Fox had a lot of points in the paint.
Looks like Lavine caught that three point disease we’ve had all season long
Lots of turnovers tonight-not unexpected
kings Look tired. Real tired
Orlando hitting everything
Well, kinda. Terminal velocity is a thing, and then the subsequent bounces don't model the physics you're proposing.
NewArena
All-Star
Yea im really not concerned at all. If this loss were to Washington or something, then yea ... i'd be fuming right now.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
Yes, but you're not accounting for the wind resistance generated by the beam.
reptilexcq2
Bench
Anyone feels there is something odd about this team?
I feel like Sabonis shouldn't be playing the Center position. He's strong and tough but he's a bit undersize.
And Keegan shouldn't be playing PF, he's just soft. My point?
My point is there is a reason this Kings team continue to be undersize until there is a drastic changes. Now that we have Jonas, why not have him play the Center position and move Sabonis to PF? Keegan can take the SF position and filling out the rest of the position, DeRozan at SG and Lavine as PG. Now, we have some size advantage. This will give us interior domination inside as far as offense and rebounding domination. One of the big can shoot 3 (Sabonis). The other can grab offensive rebound giving the team second chance shots. This is just a thought, but mostly would not work because Jonas couldn't spread the floor.
I feel like Sabonis shouldn't be playing the Center position. He's strong and tough but he's a bit undersize.
And Keegan shouldn't be playing PF, he's just soft. My point?
My point is there is a reason this Kings team continue to be undersize until there is a drastic changes. Now that we have Jonas, why not have him play the Center position and move Sabonis to PF? Keegan can take the SF position and filling out the rest of the position, DeRozan at SG and Lavine as PG. Now, we have some size advantage. This will give us interior domination inside as far as offense and rebounding domination. One of the big can shoot 3 (Sabonis). The other can grab offensive rebound giving the team second chance shots. This is just a thought, but mostly would not work because Jonas couldn't spread the floor.
OptimusRhyme
Jive Turkey
Im sure domas and jonas will get some time together. i meen this team aint stopping anyone anyways (unless nore trades tommorow).
might aswell absolutely own the boards and destroy people in the paint. Focus more on Domas threes..tho Jonas hits em too..
also ignore everything im saying as i just had major surgery a few days ago and im high af on the massive amount of morphine they gave me lol. carry on.
megapoxy
Starter
I think all of LaVine's 3 pointers were under bad conditions, not open looks and credit to the Magic that if I am not wrong they are the team that allows the less 3 pointers (attempted and made) by their opponents this season.
This match felt a bit like we were facing the Pelicans last season, really bad matchup somehow.
Against Portland it will be hard again, they run the floor a lot, they have long wings (Camara is a beast in defense, Grant is also tough one) and they have 3 centers that can cause us issues, hopefully "Timelord" will be gone by the deadline to a contender preferrably in the East.
Oops wrong topic, thought it was the game thread.
This match felt a bit like we were facing the Pelicans last season, really bad matchup somehow.
Against Portland it will be hard again, they run the floor a lot, they have long wings (Camara is a beast in defense, Grant is also tough one) and they have 3 centers that can cause us issues, hopefully "Timelord" will be gone by the deadline to a contender preferrably in the East.
Oops wrong topic, thought it was the game thread.
krylia sovetov
Bench
The only NBA players in Lithuania were those two, so both had to be in the starting five, which was a bad idea. Sabonis played at PF, and to say he struggled would be an understatement. He only played well when Valančiūnas went to the bench, allowing Sabonis to move to his natural position. I don’t believe it will work here either, despite Sabonis starting to hit three-pointers.
serbiangoat
Starter
From a talent perspective huge upgrade from a fit perspective hard to say, on paper does not look good Sabonis/Val have had zero success together for Lithuania but again it's nearly a different sport that's more physical with far less space. I just don't see anyone who would feed Val well on the team other than Sabonis and they probably can't play together.
I like Jonas as a player he's still a starting level C imo I hope he fits. The team has to many players that need the ball and iso atm someone will have to sacrifice for this to work.
I like Jonas as a player he's still a starting level C imo I hope he fits. The team has to many players that need the ball and iso atm someone will have to sacrifice for this to work.
As far as Keegan I have been hopeful he would turn the corner but I have become doubtful as of late. Rookie season he hammered it from the three. After that he became a defensive type of player so is this his ceilIng? I get it he most likely is doing what the coach wants him to do but we definitely need a bigger stronger PF.
bball_nomad
Bench
Domas and JV together on the floor was definitely a bad combo in FIBA tournament. It was just really a no-go. Smaller court, no defensive three second stupid rule, no restrictions under FIBA rules on what kind of defense teams can play. It resulted in basically "wall on wall".
In the NBA though, we might see them on the court together. It could work in certain situation. Domas developed three point shot, JV can shoot too. Offense in NBA with both of them on the would not be a problem. Different thing is defense. JV is slow. Further he is from the rim - bigger problems for him. Anyway, Domas is fast and quick. If other three guys are fast too, well, just patrol the outskirts and let JV get the defensive rebound.
Splitting 48 minutes just between the two of them looks like the most proper way to go, but JV has a bit too much to offer on the offense to be relegated to only 12-15 minutes per game. And yes, Domas don't need to worry about them fouls too much. Kings back-up C is solid. JV was a starter in the league all his life until this season.
In the NBA though, we might see them on the court together. It could work in certain situation. Domas developed three point shot, JV can shoot too. Offense in NBA with both of them on the would not be a problem. Different thing is defense. JV is slow. Further he is from the rim - bigger problems for him. Anyway, Domas is fast and quick. If other three guys are fast too, well, just patrol the outskirts and let JV get the defensive rebound.
Splitting 48 minutes just between the two of them looks like the most proper way to go, but JV has a bit too much to offer on the offense to be relegated to only 12-15 minutes per game. And yes, Domas don't need to worry about them fouls too much. Kings back-up C is solid. JV was a starter in the league all his life until this season.
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