Jonas Valanciunas - KING

[Tetsujin]

Reports were POR has been asking for an unprotected FRP. Would you pay that tag for him?

Dude has missed more games than Zion since coming to Portland.

 

[sactowndog]

Are we really going to pretend that a guy who can't get playing time with the Spurs was going to be part of our future?

have you seen our forward depth?

 

[sactowndog]

Reports were POR has been asking for an unprotected FRP. Would you pay that tag for him?

Nope. Like I said I don’t have a clear alternative but a B is likely a fair grade. My real answer is more why did we release Nemi?

 

[pdxKingsFan]

have you seen our forward depth?

No, I haven't watched a game all year.

Of course I have. The Spurs are in the middle of a complete rebuild and put him in the G-League.

 

[Kingz19]

Zach Harper at The Athletic is confused why we did this. (Link)



Goes on to suggest several options, including that we were playing keep-Jonas-away-from-the-Lakers. Even so, gives the trade a B. But the "I haven't watched a Kings game since 2004" vibe is pretty strong here.

Too few assets in the NBA to acquire somebody strictly so they aren’t picked up by a rival.

But Jonas plays the Kings so well it’s as good a reason as any lol

The obvious reason is that they don’t have a backup big and they are dead last in the NBA in bench scoring. Just a cursory review of the Kings roster on ESPN.com and a look at their bench stats would’ve saved that guy some embarrassment

 

[gunks]

Nope. Like I said I don’t have a clear alternative but a B is likely a fair grade

sactowndog giving anything Monte did a "B"?!!

This is huge people!!!

 

[QWERTYLICIOUS]

sactowndog giving anything Monte did a "B"?!!

This is huge people!!!

We're making progress.

 

[Tetsujin]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1887271373862805723

 

[sactowndog]

sactowndog giving anything Monte did a "B"?!!

This is huge people!!!

lol.

 

[Vinny Basketballerino]

I would love to see someone who can defend but I get we needed scoring off the bench and less Domas minutes. We may have to score 150 to win a game.

Jonas is 32 and about to turn 33. Do I want to give up 2 seconds and a young wing prospect for a 2 year rental on an old defensively challenged big?

Wait let me get this straight you were against this specific trade with these specific players? I just want to get you on record. Yes or no would you have done this exact trade if it was presented to you and you were GM.

 

[QWERTYLICIOUS]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1887271373862805723

I can probably be a better big man than Len. And I'm not even tall enough to be a point guard.

 

[TaxMan]

Hell yeah. Thats a dang solid deal. Movable too if teams come calling down the road.

No reason we can't get those 2nd round picks back at the trade deadline next year or the year after if we want.

 

[Fantazija]

Any national team viewers on what they looked like together on the court? Especially with the new Domas 3?

Not very good
JVal was eating but Domas odd man , team looked better when one of them sat.To be fair that was before Domas was considered as capable 3 point shooter

 

[BosnianDiehard2.0]

I would love to see someone who can defend but I get we needed scoring off the bench and less Domas minutes. We may have to score 150 to win a game.

Jonas is 32 and about to turn 33. Do I want to give up 2 seconds and a young wing prospect for a 2 year rental on an old defensively challenged big?

Yes, because he’s a starting quality center on a good contract and directly addresses a weakness you have, and you didn’t give up anyone in your rotation to get him.

 

[Hoovtrain]

I now forgive him for that cheap shot on Metu

 

[BosnianDiehard2.0]

Any national team viewers on what they looked like together on the court? Especially with the new Domas 3?

From what I saw of them in Eurobasket when they played Bosnia, it was a weird fit to me.

 

[TaxMan]

Not very good
JVal was eating but Domas odd man , team looked better when one of them sat.To be fair that was before Domas was considered as capable 3 point shooter

I don't see them spending much time together except for against certain big lineups. Otherwise, I think the hope would be we get 15 min out of JV so we can get Domas' minutes down.

 

[The_Jamal]

Not very good
JVal was eating but Domas odd man , team looked better when one of them sat.To be fair that was before Domas was considered as capable 3 point shooter

Yeah, I'm not expecting it to be like a normal set or anything, but I figure you might be able to test the waters there from time to time. Especially with higher quality players around them here than with the national team. Jval's not a great shooter, but he can actually do it, which matters

 

[Tetsujin]

Not very good
JVal was eating but Domas odd man , team looked better when one of them sat.To be fair that was before Domas was considered as capable 3 point shooter

I feel like part of it was that Lithuania had pretty much no NBA level talent on its team aside from those two when they were playing them together. It’ll be interesting to see how they look now with Matas and Kasparas as lottery pick level talents in consecutive years.

 

[The_Jamal]

Nope. Like I said I don’t have a clear alternative but a B is likely a fair grade. My real answer is more why did we release Nemi?

The Nemi question is one I had at the time too. I theorized it was a favor to Brown to get one of "his guys" in Javale on the team. But we spent 2 years developing him in the G-League, he became one of the best players in the G-League and he's just gone?

Haven't really kept up on how he's playing in BOS though. He had some real rebounding concerns here.

 

[Tetsujin]

Yeah, I'm not expecting it to be like a normal set or anything, but I figure you might be able to test the waters there from time to time. Especially with higher quality players around them here than with the national team. Jval's not a great shooter, but he can actually do it, which matters

Probably a better option than asking DeMar to guard Julius Randle again.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

Nope. Like I said I don’t have a clear alternative but a B is likely a fair grade. My real answer is more why did we release Nemi?

Because Mike Brown. The answer is Mike Brown. The answer why we did probably not consider Ware or any other big person in the draft is Mike Brown.

 

[sactowndog]

Wait let me get this straight you were against this specific trade with these specific players? I just want to get you on record. Yes or no would you have done this exact trade if it was presented to you and you were GM.

probably not at that price but, given Nemi was released, as of now I don’t have a better alternative. Which is Jamal’s valid point.

 

[sactowndog]

Because Mike Brown. The answer is Mike Brown. The answer why we did probably not consider Ware or any other big person in the draft is Mike Brown.

Mike Brown doesn’t make roster decisions. The GM does.

 

[Tetsujin]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1887278688837804519

 

[Section 101]

And Monte didn't blow his TPE. The MLE and TPE are still on the table for next season.

No we lose them at the end of the year as a capped team.

 

[HndsmCelt]

I now forgive him for that cheap shot on Metu

But that is also part of what the Kings needed: a legit physical presence that would cross the line when necessary. JV can be a thug, lets not mince words, but this team needs a little more backbone. I for one cherish the idea of watching him play against Dramon for a bit.

 

[Fantazija]

Call me a hater but if you thought Len looked slow and immobile on defense, just watch Valanciunus ... As I've said I don't think a post up big guy is what the Kings need off the bench, considering their offense runs through DeRozan when bench is in. Pretty much the whole team thrives in a running style too, so how Valanciunus fits at a higher pace is extremely questionable. Kings don't need more scoring; they literally have (4) 20 point scorers already. We'll see how it all fits

JVal is definitely slow, to make him most effective in his 15-18 minutes Kings would probably should things down, otherwise his biggest advantages ( pick and roll, offensive rebounding, back to the basket game) will not be taken advantage off.maybe Doug will change his substitution patern with Zach on a team.

 

[bball_nomad]

Only 3 years ago:

True - JV is in worst shape ever. While talking to LTU media month plus ago JV said that "he feels tired from losing".
OK. He is completely healthy. 32 years old. I am more than confident that he will shape up. He comes here knowing his role and duty. Playing meaningful basketball makes a HUGE difference for players mental approach.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

Mike Brown doesn’t make roster decisions. The GM does.

The GM doesn't assign minutes in the game. And they just re-upped Brown's contract.

Any competent organization the GM and coach work in tandem as a unit but for some reason folks here want them operating in their own universe?