All true but the emphasis is on the win, the competive attitude which is so important to the team and to each player and to the development of their competitive attitude. To start off with the strategy of laying the best until our winning % drops say below 40 then lay the second stringers. No a good way to bring a team along. Certainly within the parameters I describe he coach uses his discretion on all of this. The art of doing a good caching job.
It's early- what do you think of this starting lineup for game one?
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DesertFox
Starter
There are only 240 min in a game, so...
Hill 28 Fox 20
Hield 28 Temple 20
Bogdan 20 Carter 20 Jackson 8
ZBo 24 Skal 24
WCS 28 KK 20
Giles starts the season inactive working with the Sac trainers. Mason, Richardson, and Papa rotate playing in the G league and collecing splinters on the bench.
Hopefully by midseason Papa proves himself ready for backup mins, so they can deal Koufos and get Giles time in the G league.
Hill 28 Fox 20
Hield 28 Temple 20
Bogdan 20 Carter 20 Jackson 8
ZBo 24 Skal 24
WCS 28 KK 20
Giles starts the season inactive working with the Sac trainers. Mason, Richardson, and Papa rotate playing in the G league and collecing splinters on the bench.
Hopefully by midseason Papa proves himself ready for backup mins, so they can deal Koufos and get Giles time in the G league.
lwc
Starter
Good catch. As much of a utility player as he is, every 1-3's minutes can be cut by 3-4 and it would get him 20-24.
lwc
Starter
I love the precision!
Gary
All-Star
I always end up doing the same thing.. Leaving someone out or giving a rookie too much playing time. Jackson will probably be the odd man out early in the season or until an injury forces coach to play him more.
King Baller
All-Star
I think JJ will get minutes because he puts the ball in the hoop.
Yes I think he looks better than I gave him credit, and he may turn out to be one of the best value picks out of the draft. Kings need a couple players to create their own shot, and he fits the bill. I'll be following and stewing on passing up on Juwan Evans. Have a feeling he's going to be a solid PG and possibly better than Mason.
bajaden
Hall of Famer
When last I checked, last season, when the season ended, Willie was the starting center. So all he would be doing is returning to the starting job he already had. To start Koufos over Willie would make little sense to me.
bajaden
Hall of Famer
I don't think you can compare what Joerger did last year to what might happen this year. Well, you can, but I think it's an entirely different scenario. Last year we were trying to make the playoffs and Cousins was our star. This year, Cousins is gone and we're into a youth movement. The season should be about developing our young players. To do 0therwise at this point makes no sense. I have to believe that Vlade and Joerger have discussed this and are on the same page. Doesn't mean you don't cut a young players minutes from time to time to get his attention, if necessary. But the focus should be on the young players.
ApolloDaGod
G-League
I think by the end of the season the starting 5 will be Fox, Buddy, Carter, Skal and Willie. Im pretty sure we will make a trade for a viable small forward before the deadline. Whats awesome is that Demarcus Cousins is going to sign back with us 
mark my words.
mark my words.
I think by the end of the season the starting 5 will be Fox, Buddy, Carter, Skal and Willie. Im pretty sure we will make a trade for a viable small forward before the deadline. Whats awesome is that Demarcus Cousins is going to sign back with us
I hope not.
I think by the end of the season the starting 5 will be Fox, Buddy, Carter, Skal and Willie. Im pretty sure we will make a trade for a viable small forward before the deadline. Whats awesome is that Demarcus Cousins is going to sign back with us
You don't think Jackson will be the starter at some point or a viable small forward? I do, and was pleasantly surprised by his play. I think he's already 7th or 8th man with his offensive ability alone. I'd surprised if he doesn't play at least an aggregate quarter a game early on.
ParniValjak
All-Star
That is all correct.
However, the post that I was quoting said that you pick best player at each position and that is your starting 5 and you roll with those guys trying to get the win. You are right that player development will be the key for the coming season but that in itself means that young players would get more minutes than they necessarily would if the team was trying to make the play offs. This further goes against the claim in the post that I was quoting to start off with.
While the young players we have have nice potential and nice future, it is highly unlikely that they will be better than some of the veterans ahead of them straight out of the gates. However, those guys will still get development minutes.
The Hammer
All-Star
I don't think there's been one duplicate opinion on the starting lineup so far. Amazing. Goes to show we actually have a pretty deep team.
Btw Carter won't be starting at the end of the year. He may get a starter role early on and let the kids get their sea legs, but keep in mind he may only be here one year, so by the end of the year you can bet they will be experimenting with some younger players starting as a way to look towards next year. Carter could well return as an assistant coach next year, or, heck maybe he comes back as a player again (off the bench). His durability is impressive.
Btw Carter won't be starting at the end of the year. He may get a starter role early on and let the kids get their sea legs, but keep in mind he may only be here one year, so by the end of the year you can bet they will be experimenting with some younger players starting as a way to look towards next year. Carter could well return as an assistant coach next year, or, heck maybe he comes back as a player again (off the bench). His durability is impressive.
If you pick next season's first game and say the 15th and 30th I think the starters for those games or any one of those could be:
PG- Hill, Fox, Mason
SG- Hield, Bogdanovic, Temple
SF- Carter, Jackson, Bogdanovic, Temple, Richardson
PF- Randolph, Labisserie
C - Koufos, Cauley-Stein
As Hammer says we have depth. At least competitively and on paper. It does suggest a very interesting season.
PG- Hill, Fox, Mason
SG- Hield, Bogdanovic, Temple
SF- Carter, Jackson, Bogdanovic, Temple, Richardson
PF- Randolph, Labisserie
C - Koufos, Cauley-Stein
As Hammer says we have depth. At least competitively and on paper. It does suggest a very interesting season.
Kingsfan23
All-Star
Irving
Hield
Temple
WCS
Koufos
Hield
Temple
WCS
Koufos
The Effort Police
Starter
PG: Hill
SG: Hield
SF: Temple
PF: Randolph
C: WCS
I'm actually hoping for Skal over Randolph, but I'm not holding my breath. I wouldn't be against it completely, and Zbo will play the same number of minutes off the bench or starting and can slide over to C anyway.
However, the Koufos train needs to crash and it needs to crash now. There is no worth to starting him at this stage of WCS' career. He's in his third year, time to see what he is. Koufos is a backup C; if your teams starts him it has problems.
Some people say "depth", I say "bad team". Not being able to tell who the clear starters are is usually a negative over a positive.
SG: Hield
SF: Temple
PF: Randolph
C: WCS
I'm actually hoping for Skal over Randolph, but I'm not holding my breath. I wouldn't be against it completely, and Zbo will play the same number of minutes off the bench or starting and can slide over to C anyway.
However, the Koufos train needs to crash and it needs to crash now. There is no worth to starting him at this stage of WCS' career. He's in his third year, time to see what he is. Koufos is a backup C; if your teams starts him it has problems.
Some people say "depth", I say "bad team". Not being able to tell who the clear starters are is usually a negative over a positive.
I couldn't possibly disagree more. In the case of the Kings at this point, not being able to tell who the clear starters are when you have EIGHT new players can't possibly be construed as a negative...or a positive for that matter. What it is primarily is an indication that the Kings are clearly rebuilding and most of the starting positions are up for grabs, as they should be at this point in time.
The Effort Police
Starter
Sure it can. We've seen this before. We've talked about bench depth before where no one could figure out who the starters were with previous years teams. Those teams weren't good.
This is a bad, bad, bad team next year. As it should be for a rebuilding process. It's going to be an interesting season alright, but not because they're actually going to be competitive.
"Depth" and "bad team" have nothing to do with each other. We absolutely have competitive depth as we go into the new season. And in no way is our team a bad team. It may not win a lot of games but "bad team"? No way!
The Effort Police
Starter
They do when depth is all you've got going for you and you've got no stars with your best players being low-end starters at this stage of their careers. No one on our team would be more than a third option on an even average team right now.
Sooooo.... a bad team? That's how I would define it.
whozit
Starter
Fixed it for you. You can insist on your half empty glass or in your case, empty glass, but I'll choose the half full one not knowing exactly what we have or how they will be played. Until then, one or both of us is wrong.
And since I watch for enjoyment I'll think positive until proved otherwise.
Ozymandias
All-Star
I hope they let the youngins (+Hill and possibly Temple) start and the vets close.
I don't think the idea is to let players like Vince and Zach play big minutes early and get worn down by the end of the season.
I don't think the idea is to let players like Vince and Zach play big minutes early and get worn down by the end of the season.
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Ozymandias
All-Star
You're underrating George Hill. He was more than a 3rd option for the Jazz playoff team last year.
jcassio
Starter
If I thought they were going to be a bad bad bad team next year, I wouldn't bother watching, But I'll be watching every game.
