If we landed John Wall

[SacTownGrantFan]

Who's to say Wall/Evans wouldn't work out, for similar reasons that Martin/Evans didn't work out?

Why would it be different than that failing combination?

(Note: I do realize it could be absolutely amazing, too.)

 

[Arkitect]

If it doesn't you trade the worse of the two for a franchise level big. If it does, look out.

 

[Kingstime]

I have no reason to believe it would work out any better than Kmart and Reke did(We didn't get much of a look though). From what I've seen of Wall he is a great unselfish talent and he is definately a PG. You put him back there as a our starting 1 and there is no questions about it he would flourish as our starting 1.

But we drafted Reke to be our starting 1, and he is proving he can play that position quite well. It doesn't seem like Reke has an ego or would even put up a stink about moving over to the 2. I don't see why the FO would take the keys away from Reke even if their was a more polished PG there to take.

I know I'll probably get lit up something fierce for saying it, but if we landed that number 1 pick for Wall I'd take the chance and trade it. For what? Idk maybe a nice impact 4, a draft pick and to dump Nocioni's contract.

But hell if we did land John Wall I wouldn't have that hard of a time getting behind a Wall/Evans backcourt. Maybe it turns out to be a sicker younger version of the Kidd/Hardaway backcourt Phoenix had.

 

[Bricklayer]

We've done this discussion half a dozen times already and unfortunately may do it another half dozen times before lottery day.

So queue recording: "I have real doubts that a Reke/Wall backcourt would work, two high scoring ball dominant guards, albeit one a fastbreak specialist and the other a half court specialist. However, given Wall's amazing potential, you have to try it. If it does work, you are talking about one of the best backcourts anybody has ever seen. And if doesn't, you still have one hell of a trade chit. Probably give it two years to start bearing fruit."

 

[vistacruza_kings]

john wall is not the best player in the draft, he is not even the best player on his own team.

 

[Kingstime]

If I was drafting Id draft Turner or Cousins before Wall if that makes any sense.

 

[Kings Fan Gerard]

I wouldn't pass up on John Wall. He and Tyreke should make it work. They'd be the backcourt of the future, and have the potential to be the starters on the west all star team.

 

[Big Cuz 15]

that would be an insane backcourt of offense + defense. i wouldn't draft turner, cousins or anybody else if we had the first pick.

 

[hammystyle]

There's a possibility of it not fitting perfectly, but the worry over this seems crazy. Its like Chicago, they have D-Rose, but if they get the opportunity to sign D-Wade, don't you think they're pulling the trigger? Do you hear anyone worrying about that? Neither tandem may be the perfect compliment of skills but at a certain talent level it just doesn't matter. If anything Reke and Wall could fit better because I think they might have more upside as passers and shooters (Wall anyways).

It would be be even better if we got the first pick and the top prospect was a young Tim Duncan, but its not. People are acting like it'd be a bad thing if we won the lottery. Shoot, the mythical D-Wade and LeBron tandem isn't really a "great fit" either.

 

[Kingstime]

It would be a terrible fit actually, funny you mention that because Scottie Pippen was talking about that today during an interview. He said they are too set in their ball dominant ways, it wouldn't be a good fit, and it would most likely work in the long run but it would take alot of adjustment and ego toning down. Either one of those 2 and a dominant big would be get the most immediate result.

Luckily Wall and Evans are young and don't know what kind of players they are gonna be yet, so they could adjust to each other so that pair would have a legit chance at succeeding IMO.

 

[SacTownGrantFan]

There's a possibility of it not fitting perfectly, but the worry over this seems crazy. Its like Chicago, they have D-Rose, but if they get the opportunity to sign D-Wade, don't you think they're pulling the trigger? Do you hear anyone worrying about that? Neither tandem may be the perfect compliment of skills but at a certain talent level it just doesn't matter. If anything Reke and Wall could fit better because I think they might have more upside as passers and shooters (Wall anyways).

It would be be even better if we got the first pick and the top prospect was a young Tim Duncan, but its not. People are acting like it'd be a bad thing if we won the lottery. Shoot, the mythical D-Wade and LeBron tandem isn't really a "great fit" either.

I don't think anybody is acting like it would be a bad thing if we won the lottery. At least, I hope not.

 

[Rookie]

I don't know much about Wall but after reviewing the highlight.

He's not a "pure" PG.

 

[asakkings]

One reason this backcourt duo could work is that both of them can get their own shots. Unlike Martin, where the whole team had to set plays to get martin his shots. With Defensive pressure these two will create on opposing guards we can become a really good running team.

 

[rainmaker]

I agree with Kingstime in the sense that Turner and Cousins would be a better fit next to Tyreke. If we draft 2-5, and either are there, I wouldn't hesitate in picking either of them. However, if we get the top pick, I do have questions about Wall fitting with Tyreke.

If we have the number 1, I would definately shop it around leading up to the draft. What kind of a big could we get for the opportunity to draft Wall? What about a package of the #1 and JT? I would think we might be able to get a very good big with that kind of a package, and that would fit better with this team than Wall, IMO.

 

[Spike]

john wall is not the best player in the draft, he is not even the best player on his own team.

It's been said before, but if you have the #1 pick, you have to take Wall. I would trade down and get something sexy in return. The opportunity to cash out would be too good to pass. I would rather not take the risk that they don't work well together, because they require the ball in their hands in two different ways. To me, Wall seems more like Nash, where Evans seems more like Stockton, comfortable in a half-court setting.

 

[Larry89]

If we landed John wall we sitll would be awful for 1-3 years barring changes to the Pf/C positions

 

[Heuge]

john wall is not the best player in the draft, he is not even the best player on his own team.

false.

 

[hammystyle]

If we landed John wall we sitll would be awful for 1-3 years barring changes to the Pf/C positions

Not true. You can count on us being quite a bit better next year just because Tyreke, Casspi, Greene, Hawes and JT will all improve. Adding John Wall would make us much much better. Easily playoff contenders by year 2. Of course, upgrading the frontcourt is what we need to do to be title contenders.

 

[FakeInjury]

Wall/Evans would be such a potent backcourt, it would probably rival any backcourt in NBA history if Wall performs as projected. Well, we should have about 6-12% chance to land Wall, and if we do, well it probably means we are going to be making the playoffs sooner rather than later. If not, we still have a couple bigs and Al faruq to choose from.

 

[bajaden]

The only player I would consider taking over Wall is Turner. Right now, Turner is the better player. Long range, Wall should be the better player. But you can't miss with either one of them. Their both going to be stars in my opinion.

Wall: Listed at 6'3". Very good ballhandler. Very good court vision. Very good and creative passer, who sometimes forces things. Good rebounder for the Point guard position. Very good defender at the college level. An almost freak athlete with unbelievable quickness and end to end speed. Very good penetrator and finisher. Decent to good mid-range shot. Suspect outside shot, but with good form.

Turner: Listed at 6'6". Outstanding ballhandler. (maybe the best that I've ever seen) Extremely good court vision. Very good and creative passer. Outstanding rebounder for the SG position. Very good defender at the college level. Above average athlete who can get anywhere he wants on the court with more moves than you can shake a stick at. Outstanding penetrator and finisher. Very good mid-range shot. Suspect outside shot, but once again, with good form.

Both these players have shown the ability to simply take over a game when its needed. Probably more so with Turner, but then he has more experience. I love both these guys. I guess I love Turner a little more simply because he more polished right now. But both are can't miss players in my opinion.

For those wanting to get a look at Turner, Ohio St. is playing on ESPN at 9AM on saturday morning.

 

[cstorm]

If we landed John wall we sitll would be awful for 1-3 years barring changes to the Pf/C positions

Unless with such an awesome backcourt, we get Pau to sign with us for a bucket of popcorn and a "foam finger" (Plagiarized from another poster).

 

[PT Cruiser 9ROC]

The only player I would consider taking over Wall is Turner. Right now, Turner is the better player. Long range, Wall should be the better player. But you can't miss with either one of them. Their both going to be stars in my opinion.

For those wanting to get a look at Turner, Ohio St. is playing on ESPN at 9AM on saturday morning.

Agreed. Turner is an unbelievable all-around talent who represents a piece that we could plug in perfectly next to Reke and just keep rolling with no problems.

Wall seems to be competitive and team oriented enough for me to believe that he and Reke would learn to adjust their games to one another eventually, but I really think there would be a huge adjustment required of both that isn't guaranteed to happen.

I'd be ecstatic to be able to land either player, but I'd almost rather end up at #2 or 3 in the lottery just so we don't have to deal with those questions. There are at least 2 potentially great fits in Turner and Cousins waiting right after Wall.

 

[Gary]

Essentially what this would do is move Evans to SG, and Wall would bring the ball up.. I think it would work like Beno and Evans did in the early part of the season with both of them sharing duties.. Not sure if Evans game would be affected or not, but if they can play like Anderson/Evans did at Memphis it would be great.

 

[bajaden]

Essentially what this would do is move Evans to SG, and Wall would bring the ball up.. I think it would work like Beno and Evans did in the early part of the season with both of them sharing duties.. Not sure if Evans game would be affected or not, but if they can play like Anderson/Evans did at Memphis it would be great.

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If Evans works on his outside shot this offseason and becomes just decent and becomes decent to good at his midrange shot, then he could work next to Wall or Turner. If he can add the spot up shot into his arsenal. Then all he has to do is move without the ball to get open. If they give him the spot up, take it. If they don't, he takes it to the hole or dishes.

What you would have with either Wall or Turner next to him is a double edged sword. Martin's problem is that he's not a good passer or a good ballhandler. That limited what could happen once the ball was in his hands. That wouldn't be true with either Wall or Turner. In my opinion, Turner is a better passer than Wall right now. But Wall's athleticism should turn him into a point that can reach the upper levels of the NBA.

 

[Kings Faithful]

I traded all of our cap space for the rights to John Wall and Derrick Favors in NBA 2k10... and the outcome was very good. I hope that puts to rest any question on whether they would be compatible or not.

 

[Kingster]

Who's to say Wall/Evans wouldn't work out, for similar reasons that Martin/Evans didn't work out?

Why would it be different than that failing combination?

(Note: I do realize it could be absolutely amazing, too.)

The reason it didn't work with Martin was mainly because of ego. Martin couldn't handle not being #1 dog. Same thing could happen if we got Wall. There could be an ego clash. No way to know. I'd like give it a try though. It would be an incredibly athletic backcourt.

 

[Das_Boot]

A big if but...

So IF we get the number one pick and NJ gets the number four pick (as we all know is possible) what do you think the chances are of pulling this off...

We trade Spencer or JT (I'd be ok with either) and our number one pick for Lopez and their number four pick. They get Wall and can dish Harris for something shiny, and they still get a big back. We get Lopez and use our 4th pick on another big.

If we could pull something like this off I think we'd be better off as a team than just keeping Wall. I know there are a ton of if's involved but I figured I'd throw it out there.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

So IF we get the number one pick and NJ gets the number four pick (as we all know is possible) what do you think the chances are of pulling this off...

We trade Spencer or JT (I'd be ok with either) and our number one pick for Lopez and their number four pick. They get Wall and can dish Harris for something shiny, and they still get a big back. We get Lopez and use our 4th pick on another big.

If we could pull something like this off I think we'd be better off as a team than just keeping Wall. I know there are a ton of if's involved but I figured I'd throw it out there.

I have thought about the exact same scenario. Lopez makes this very tempting for us - would lock down our C slot for the foreseeable future. And the player at #4 wouldn't be chump change. I think it might well be a good idea for us (if we don't think Wall is a Jordan-style HOFer, in which case you probably can't justify it) because we would solve our C problem and we already figure we've got an answer at PG.

Would Jersey do it, though? They would seem to have the choice between Lopez/Harris/#4 (Cousins, Favors, Johnson, ???) and Wall/JT/whatever they can trade Harris for. I guess the real question is whether Wall is really going to be that much better than the #4 pick, and whether they think Wall of Lopez would make LeBron more likely to go to NJ/Brooklyn. I have no idea if they'd do it.

And we'd also have to win the lottery. So it's a bit premature.

 

[Dreadnought]

I'll be fully honest, I've jumped on the John Wall bandwagon. If we miraculously get the first pick, YOU TAKE HIM and you KEEP HIM. He is THAT good. Having occasional words in caps should support my argument. In my opinion, this draft has one mega superstar, and three other potentially great players in Turner, Cousins, and Favors. Everyone else is miles away.

 

[Tetsujin]

. In my opinion, this draft has one mega superstar, and three other potentially great players in Turner, Cousins, and Favors. Everyone else is miles away.

Just like how this year had Griffen, Rubio and a bunch of scrubs?


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