I know for most this is obvious, but Petrie made the right choice

[Widowmaker2k]

I really wanted Rubio, but figured that there's no way he'd fall to four. When he did, I was sure Geoff would take him. When Stern said "Tyreke Evans" I uttered a word that is not repeatable on this board, which is awkward, because my parents invited me over for dinner and I was at their house...that being said, however, Evans and/or Harden was my number 2, and I was perfectly okay with Evans, I just really wanted Rubio.

If we were redoing this draft, I'd easily take Evans as my number 1 choice, though we probably wouldn't get him. It'd probably be:
1. Clippers: Griffin
2. Memphis: Evans (Memphis connection)
3. OKC: Jennings (they don't need a pg, but BPA and all)
4. Sac: Flynn?

All in all, I'm ecstatic that it worked out the way it did.

 

[Sptsjunkie]

"I will become famous for inventing a device that will enable me to punch people through the internet

I'll buy one.

 

[BMiller52]

no comment.

lol you're still on the rubio bandwagon? I think that thing is missing like 2 wheels, a horse, a drive, etc. That thing is pretty much falling apart lol. You're the only one left.

 

[Vlade4GM]

And scoring is not his strength. Neither is shooting the basketball.

I mean, he'll be allowed to be ball dominant, better spacing, more up tempo, and more pick and rolls. These play more to his strengths and are not typical of Euro bball.

 

[Kingsguy881]

Okay, so besides bajaden who seems to get everyone he wants to be drafted. Who here actually wanted. I repeat, wanted.... Evans to be drafted by Petrie with the 4th pick?

I'm late to this party, but I wanted Rubio. No lie. I flipped my lid when we drafted Evans. But once I got over us not picking Rubes I did some research on Evans, not being a big college basketball guy. And common sense won out and I saw what Petrie saw, so I hopped on Evans bandwagon as quick as I could so I could say I was one of the first on it.

 

[Rockmeister]

Because I want to...

Well, that's a good answer.

 

[Sptsjunkie]

Okay, so besides bajaden who seems to get everyone he wants to be drafted. Who here actually wanted. I repeat, wanted.... Evans to be drafted by Petrie with the 4th pick?

VF, don't try to confine me to your polls

I was split. By draft day I was 50-50 and in full on "in Petrie we trust" mode. Although right after the Thunder picked Harden, one of my best friends I was watching the draft with forced me to get off the fence and pick one and I said Rubio. Good thing I am not Petrie. I love Evans and if I had the pick to do over again, I wouldn't even have to think twice about it.

Much funnier though was that same friend is a HUGE Warriors fan and we both though Curry would be a good fit for their system and hated Hill. I have video of him, clapping and jumping around screaming for joy and then laughing at the shell-shocked Knicks fans after the Warriors took Curry. It's a video that will only get funnier with age, especially if one player becomes significantly better than the other.

 

[rainmaker]

Its a good thing I'm not GM, because I would have taken Rubio. I still think he will be a good nba player, but Tyreke is a much better fit for this team. I think Rubio will be a solid nba pg, exciting in the open court. But he won't put wins on the board. Tyreke will.

I can't say for sure, because nobody knows right now, but I will say that its highly probable that Tyreke will become a top 10 player. Taking nothing away from Griffin, because he will be a great player, but we may look back and say we got the best player in the draft. Guys who can fill up every statistical category, win games for their team, and cause matchup problems every time they step on the court are rare. Tyreke has the potential to become that type of a player.

 

[gvucko]

How is our friend Ricky doing these days. I was going to keep up with his game by game stats in my sig but, as it turns out they only play a game every 25 days or something. WOW imagine if Reke had 24 days rest between games. last I looked Ricky was averaging 5pts 6ast 1reb 4to. Damn how DID we pass that up.

fyi:

Eurolegue:

10 games regular season, 6 games in the top 16 within a group, best of five series (3-5 games) in quarterfinals, final four (2).

As Barcelona is the top team I believe final four is a safe bet. So we are looking at 21-23 games in Eurolegue.

Spanish league: 34 games.

Spanish cup: 1-3 games.

Aggregate: 56-60 games per season.

As for Rubio performance, there is one significant factor to be considered. Rubio plays for the TOP team in Europe (Spain). And all they care is WINNING. Not developing young guys (not in the games nevertheless). Consider Evans playing for Lakers, Cleaveland, or similar top team. Cream de la cream. Would you bet your life on it that he would get the same opportunity than he is getting here. Would you take 5 shots per game from Kobe or Lebron and give them to Evans?

Plus the format of the Eurolegue and Spanish League (but in lesser extent) makes every game count. You just don't gamble on developing the kids. Because if you do, and you don't win, you drop out of the Eurolegue and indeed Spanish League in to a lesser league. And that is a reason Jennings did not have as much of an impact as he could have.

That being said, Evans is a MOFO baller. I was hoping Kings drafted Rubio and you would be satisfied with Rubio. Believe me. But would Rubio be making the same inpact as Evans? Personal stats wise, probably not (sans for assists. And 5 assists in Eurolegue translates to almost a double here. Not bad for a rookie, no?).

Evans is special. Cherish him, develop him. But do not lover yourself by comparing apples to oranges.

 

[est.1999]

Your logic makes no sense. Look what rondo got to do with 3 all stars. Evans would be a starter in LA and maybe a starter in Cle after a few weeks. He'd get his touches

 

[Double-K]

This again?

 

[Chupacabra]

Since this is the time and place for my opinion I shall state it. There should be another option in the poll that says " I wanted anyone other that Rubio." Thats the camp I was honeslty in. Ive gotten in trouble for my reasons as to why but the main reason was that I think he has alot in common with charmin double quilted toilet paper.

 

[mac]

Here's my story. I had no idea who any of the players were, had only seen highlights on youtube and such and never followed their games or anything. I only knew Rubio from watching him in the olympics. He's a year older than me, so naturally I was really excited, going on about how young he was and already in the olympics, dissing my own country's standard of basketball and such.

So when came the draft, I was hoping for Rubio myself, not because I knew how good he was but because of the media hype. I didn't like his english in the interviews though... a bit hard to follow. Anyway, when Stern announced that we got Evans I was like wuhhh why not rubio?? And i was in a state of shock, but I moved on, checked out Evans and was fascinated with his size. And right now I am very happy with how he has turned out and what he's done and will be doing for the Kings.

I don't want to make any comments about how good Rubio will be, I've said this many times already. I do think Petrie made a damn good choice.

 

[gvucko]

Your logic makes no sense. Look what rondo got to do with 3 all stars. Evans would be a starter in LA and maybe a starter in Cle after a few weeks. He'd get his touches

Rondo is a pure PG. He gets half the shooting (he doesn't need to) as Evans. Do you really believe that Boston would let a rookie (albeit a great one) be a go to guy instead of the big three?

 

[SacKings7]

I would've been happy with just about anyone not named Jennings or Hill to be honest. (Yes, I'll be the first to admit that I thought Jennings would be a bust. Who shows up late on draft night?) But I said a number of times that what this team needs is a STAR, regardless of position. And so far, the results from this draft are looking promising for us.

 

[kupman]

How about this for a poll:

"Which dead horse will be beaten the longest?"
1) Evans vs Rubio
2) The Chris Webber trade

Eh - what am I thinking. Nothing will ever trump the Webber trade.

 

[Warhawk]

How about this for a poll:

"Which dead horse will be beaten the longest?"
1) Evans vs Rubio
2) The Chris Webber trade

Eh - what am I thinking. Nothing will ever trump the Webber trade.

Nah, you have to include the Lakers-Kings PO too.

 

[CaminoChaos]

At first I was on the Rubio train and on draft night when Evans name was called I was a little confussed. Then I remembered Jerry Reynolds was on the radio before the draft and said that there was one guy above and beyond everyone else in the draft except for Griffin that the Kings really liked. The next day he was on the radio again and was estatic that the Kings got Evans at #4. He also mentioned that Rubio was pretty low on there draft board behind Griffin, Evans, Flynn, and a couple others. After hearing that I knew we'd made the right decision.

Reynolds comment that Rubio is just another Luke Ridnour made me laugh because Ridnour was pretty fancy like that in college but was a better shotter than Rubio.

 

[Vlade4GM]

At first I was on the Rubio train and on draft night when Evans name was called I was a little confussed. Then I remembered Jerry Reynolds was on the radio before the draft and said that there was one guy above and beyond everyone else in the draft except for Griffin that the Kings really liked. The next day he was on the radio again and was estatic that the Kings got Evans at #4. He also mentioned that Rubio was pretty low on there draft board behind Griffin, Evans, Flynn, and a couple others. After hearing that I knew we'd made the right decision.

Reynolds comment that Rubio is just another Luke Ridnour made me laugh because Ridnour was pretty fancy like that in college but was a better shotter than Rubio.

Yup, and that's all there is to Rubio's game

 

[beb0p]

Petrie indeed made the right choice and should be praised; not for picking Evans over Rubio though, but for picking Evans over Curry, Flynn, and Jennings. To me those are the top tier PGs in the draft and all the hype was pointing to Curry and Flynn (who was raising fast).

Not picking Rubio is a no-brainer imo. I've said it before and I'll say it again, Rubio is an average PG who gives you 10 and 8 in his prime. I had Eric Maynor and Collison ranked above Rubio. Yeah, you read that right. The T-Wolves made a huge mistake picking him, not because they already have a zillion PGs but They wasted a top pick in a role player. Maybe they can find a sucker in a trade.

 

[gvucko]

Petrie indeed made the right choice and should be praised; not for picking Evans over Rubio though, but for picking Evans over Curry, Flynn, and Jennings. To me those are the top tier PGs in the draft and all the hype was pointing to Curry and Flynn (who was raising fast).

Not picking Rubio is a no-brainer imo. I've said it before and I'll say it again, Rubio is an average PG who gives you 10 and 8 in his prime. I had Eric Maynor and Collison ranked above Rubio. Yeah, you read that right. The T-Wolves made a huge mistake picking him, not because they already have a zillion PGs but They wasted a top pick in a role player. Maybe they can find a sucker in a trade.

Completely agree but for the different reasons. Kings could not afford to wait for Rubio. His status in Europe (the buyout) was well known. So Kings had no other chance to choose Evans. And I am very glad Kings picked Evans over Curry, Flynn and Jennings.

And Rubio being an average PG. Well we will see about that one, sooner or latter. Personally I believe that the kid is special. Drazen Petrovic kind of special. Especially as I had the privilege of seeing him a couple of times live. He leaves a permanent impression. But if I was able to predict the future I would be running buying a lottery ticket now.

 

[USNAVY15]

Evans was number 2 on my board behind Griffin. But after his early season performances, and the fact he is averaging 18, 4 and 4; he is a steal at 4, and probably would be in a clipper uniform had they known he would be this good. As soon as I Heard the name Hasheem Thabeet!!! I was jumping up and down for joy....true story, because i knew we were getting Harden or Evans.

 

[CaminoChaos]

Yup, and that's all there is to Rubio's game

Out of all the highlight videos I seen and scounting reports I've read, I haven't seen any that said he was a good shooter, a good defender, strong or anything other than he can pass it in the open court. That's all that I'm saying.

 

[ParniValjak]

When poeple like to bag Rubio and bring up his stats all it shows is that they have no concept or understanding of european basketball. Its a very different game to NBA. The schemes are different, the pace is different, the style is VERY different and the rules are different as well.

There are not many player in the best european teams that average 20ppg. Its a team effort. There are not really designated go to guys per se but more of a concentrated team effort. In Barcelona, Rubio's role is not to be a scorer. His role is to be a distributor and a leader and he is doing a very fine job of that. People keep forgetting that assists in europe are tallied up differently than in the NBA. In europe you don't get an assist if you find someone open out on the wings for a jumper. You only get creditted with an assist if the player you pass to dunks it or lays it up without putting the ball on the floor. If he takes one bounce, its not an assist. If he shoots an open jumper, its not an assist.

So to laugh at 5 assists per game in europe is actually pretty ignorant an uneducated. It is like having around 10 assists per game in the NBA.

Having said all that, I wouldn't trade Evans for anyone else from his draft class. Hell I am not sure I would trade him for the 2nd and 3rd best player from his draft pool. I think we found our guy here and we should all be stoked with that. I wanted Rubio but I also said that I would be very happy with whoever Petrie picked because his ability to spot talent is brilliant.

 

[Oprostaj]

When poeple like to bag Rubio and bring up his stats all it shows is that they have no concept or understanding of european basketball. Its a very different game to NBA. The schemes are different, the pace is different, the style is VERY different and the rules are different as well.

There are not many player in the best european teams that average 20ppg. Its a team effort. There are not really designated go to guys per se but more of a concentrated team effort. In Barcelona, Rubio's role is not to be a scorer. His role is to be a distributor and a leader and he is doing a very fine job of that. People keep forgetting that assists in europe are tallied up differently than in the NBA. In europe you don't get an assist if you find someone open out on the wings for a jumper. You only get creditted with an assist if the player you pass to dunks it or lays it up without putting the ball on the floor. If he takes one bounce, its not an assist. If he shoots an open jumper, its not an assist.

So to laugh at 5 assists per game in europe is actually pretty ignorant an uneducated. It is like having around 10 assists per game in the NBA.

Having said all that, I wouldn't trade Evans for anyone else from his draft class. Hell I am not sure I would trade him for the 2nd and 3rd best player from his draft pool. I think we found our guy here and we should all be stoked with that. I wanted Rubio but I also said that I would be very happy with whoever Petrie picked because his ability to spot talent is brilliant.

Your words are falling on deaf ears. There are people who hated Rubio, people who loved Rubio, and people that wanted Rubio but are loving Evans. That's it. I've noticed a lot of hate on this board based toward Rubio, which is why I hold back my praise of him. Until he steps foot on the court and proves himself, people will lable him hyped up and nothing but a bust waiting to happen, a-la Milicic and so many other european players. Unfortunately the track record is not good, and each European player will have the odds stacked against him. People that do not watch European basketball cannot understand it. It's such a different style, such a different atmosphere that it's very hard to explain. But very good observation, and spot on in my opinion.

 

[Rookie]

again...

What was Jennings numbers over seas last year?

Don't judge Rubio until he steps foot on an NBA court.

Agreed.

I was for Rubio during draft but have no problem with Evans being picked. Now I'm happy that we picked Evans. It's still early but so far so good.

 

[kennadog]

I wouldn't have been upset, if we had drafted Rubio. I only worried that Sacramento Kings fans would not have been happy with a player who might not make an immediate impact. I I didn't think Rubio was likely to come in to the NBA and be great right away. An 18-year-old transplant from the European game to the US and the NBA woulds take some time to adjust and mature, I figured.

In that sense, I'm glad we picked Evans. He has clearly had an immediate impact (along with Westphal) and that's good for a 17-win team. Rubio may play here in a couple of years and be great. Somehow, I still get the feeling we won't be sorry for having picked Evans.

 

[Vlade4GM]

Out of all the highlight videos I seen and scounting reports I've read, I haven't seen any that said he was a good shooter, a good defender, strong or anything other than he can pass it in the open court. That's all that I'm saying.

All you're saying to me is that you've never seen him play.

 

[Prince_XY]

Okay, so besides bajaden who seems to get everyone he wants to be drafted. Who here actually wanted. I repeat, wanted.... Evans to be drafted by Petrie with the 4th pick?

I am waaaaay too late for this one.

Count me as one of those people who wants Petrie to draft Evans with the 4th pick. I called it way before the draft day. Now, surely that translates to a high mark on this sort of a pissing contest.

BTW, I remember there was a thread about this a few days before the draft day. I wonder who those people who wanted Evans.

And also, there are some people who predicted the Kings will be less than 0.5 comes December. And I saw at least one person from this group claiming he/she predicted a 0.5 before.

Is there a way of digging on those pre-draft predictions and win/loss record when the schedule went out, so we can tell who's full of s***?

 

[AriesMar27]

I am waaaaay too late for this one.

Count me as one of those people who wants Petrie to draft Evans with the 4th pick. I called it way before the draft day. Now, surely that translates to a high mark on this sort of a pissing contest.

BTW, I remember there was a thread about this a few days before the draft day. I wonder who those people who wanted Evans.

And also, there are some people who predicted the Kings will be less than 0.5 comes December. And I saw at least one person from this group claiming he/she predicted a 0.5 before.

Is there a way of digging on those pre-draft predictions and win/loss record when the schedule went out, so we can tell who's full of s***?

search for it in the archives, what was the name of the thread?