i dont get this team
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KingsFan54
Bench
The team is very young. That is going to happen. They have to learn how to finish games and be more consistant. But then you already said that.
piksi
Hall of Famer
The team is very young. That is going to happen. They have to learn how to finish games and be more consistant. But then you already said that.
no - it isn't
we stink for 3 or 4 games. lose a few nailbiters. and come out and beat some of the best teams in the league. i wouldve put $500 on the magic last night. glad i didnt. bibby and martin should be back next game hopefully
IMO the Magic is not so good recently. Yeah, they're 3rd best team in the East, and D. Howard is a monster. But they have not been good for several past games.
CruzDude
Senior Member sharing a brew with bajaden
They are young in terms of being starters (Salmons, Cisco, Beno, etc) and in terms of playing together and for a new coach.l And they have the leaders injured behind the bench. It is all new to them.
The Magic are the 3rd best in the east, Brad is not a Josh Howard and Mikki is not a Rashard Lewis. So Kings did beat a good team. Leading by 16 at the start of the 4th was GREAT but a good team will usually chip away at leads in the 4th as did the Magic. But give the Kings credit where credit is due. They held off that charge and neutralized all the Magic guards and held Hedo in check.
They are getting there. Their inexperience together and overeagerness has cost us 4-5 games so far but they are learning..... as is Coach Reggie.
The Magic are the 3rd best in the east, Brad is not a Josh Howard and Mikki is not a Rashard Lewis. So Kings did beat a good team. Leading by 16 at the start of the 4th was GREAT but a good team will usually chip away at leads in the 4th as did the Magic. But give the Kings credit where credit is due. They held off that charge and neutralized all the Magic guards and held Hedo in check.
They are getting there. Their inexperience together and overeagerness has cost us 4-5 games so far but they are learning..... as is Coach Reggie.
Dime Dropper
All-Star
Now hopefully we can pick it up and get to that 8th seed. That's exactly what we need at this point in time. We're a young, up and coming team.
Oh, wait.
Every little team beats a big team once in a while. Doesn't mean we can do it on a consistent basis. And we are far from young.
Oh, wait.
Every little team beats a big team once in a while. Doesn't mean we can do it on a consistent basis. And we are far from young.
kennadog
Dog On It!
Yes, I think inexperienced is a better word than "young."
AyeCarly
G-League
We are actually an average aged team.
http://www.rpiratings.com/NBA.html
Team / Avg. Years Exp. / Avg. Age
Boston 5.14 26.90
Cleveland 5.20 27.15
Dallas 6.00 27.82
Denver 5.40 27.46
Detroit 5.73 27.65
Houston 5.07 28.26
LA Clippers 6.60 28.86
Miami 5.73 28.26
New Jersey 6.14 28.43
Orlando 5.80 27.52
Phoenix 6.46 29.04
Sacramento 4.53 26.59
San Antonio 6.64 30.64
NBA Average 4.70 26.91
Looking at that list the best teams are older, with exception to the Clips and Miami, but MIA has already won a championship.
This goes to show you wisdom wins championships.
http://www.rpiratings.com/NBA.html
Team / Avg. Years Exp. / Avg. Age
Boston 5.14 26.90
Cleveland 5.20 27.15
Dallas 6.00 27.82
Denver 5.40 27.46
Detroit 5.73 27.65
Houston 5.07 28.26
LA Clippers 6.60 28.86
Miami 5.73 28.26
New Jersey 6.14 28.43
Orlando 5.80 27.52
Phoenix 6.46 29.04
Sacramento 4.53 26.59
San Antonio 6.64 30.64
NBA Average 4.70 26.91
Looking at that list the best teams are older, with exception to the Clips and Miami, but MIA has already won a championship.
This goes to show you wisdom wins championships.
bibby and martin should be back next game hopefully
U don't saaaay
Hmmm
..that WOULD B nice!
Gary
All-Star
Sorry but that's a dumb ranking system. You could put my grandfather on the team and the Kings would skyrocket to the oldest team. Doesn't mean this team would play any worse, because you wouldn't play my grandpa. He might break a hip if given a basketball.
we stink for 3 or 4 games. lose a few nailbiters. and come out and beat some of the best teams in the league. i wouldve put $500 on the magic last night. glad i didnt. bibby and martin should be back next game hopefully
Um, you did notice the STARTERS sitting on the bench in street clothes, right? Players who usually either play limited minutes or are on the team simply for practice fodder are playing major minutes. And they're doing what players not used to being in the spotlight do ... they're trying to find a way to play like a team and still have their moments in the sun.
As far as your assumption that Mike and Kevin will be back for the next game, that's not supported by anything being said currently. In fact, as recently as last night they projected the Toronto game on Jan. 16 to be the return date.
What we are seeing and should be thankful for is the return of a TEAM concept and players who are showing heart and hustle and NOT giving up. That's important; in fact, at this point it's critical.
We've got a long way to go before we return to elite status. It's the small things along the way that will make the journey enjoyable. Sit back and just enjoy the trip.
AyeCarly
G-League
This isn't a ranking system, these are statistics on average years in the NBA and average years of age per given teams.
And it's empirical evidence that the best teams have more experience.
What's so dumb about that? Just facts.
DocHolliday
Starter
we stink for 3 or 4 games. lose a few nailbiters. and come out and beat some of the best teams in the league. i wouldve put $500 on the magic last night. glad i didnt. bibby and martin should be back next game hopefully
Bibby is scheduled to be back a week from Today, and Martin was not cleared as of yesterday to practice at full speed.
Kingster
Hall of Famer
we stink for 3 or 4 games. lose a few nailbiters. and come out and beat some of the best teams in the league. i wouldve put $500 on the magic last night. glad i didnt. bibby and martin should be back next game hopefully
I think it's the boredom factor. Considering the NBA and the way it is, I think the Kings are performing very consistently. It's the teams that we play against that are performining inconsistently, especially good teams. Many of them - maybe most of them - don't take the Kings seriously. It's a game in which they can take the night off - especially defensively. So, the Kings are the beneficiaries of the boredom of others.
I think the point is that it doesn't appear to be weighted by minutes played. It assumes that a 32 year old bench player is no less important to wins-losses than a 23 year old who's been a two time all star already. I think it's a given that experience and talent make better players. But if you take LeBron off the Cavs roster, they get much older and much worse. Therefore it really isn't a defining stat.
Gary
All-Star
Reason is because you add a 40y/o vet to the team, and all of a sudden your age goes WAY up.. Even if you don't play the guy. We have a few "older" gents on the team we aren't playing at all. So whether they are on the team is of no consequence. We are a young/inexperienced team. Not an old team, nor do not belong on the "old list" at all. The bulk of the playing time is going to the younger players.
I bet if we had a system that ranked how much time your young players got the Kings would be one of the youngest teams.
I thought it was just empirical evidence that contenders usually have someone like Alonzo Mourning, Gary Payton or Mitch Richmond playing for them for minimum. If you look at the 2001-2 Lakers, and tally up the guys who actually got more than 5 minutes a game of PT, you get an average age of 26. http://www.lakerstats.com/searoster.php?season=0102
Or take the '91 Bulls. Despite the fact that there were no 18-22 year olds in the NBA in those days, four of their starting five averaged out to age 25, with Bill Cartwright (age 33-34) singlehandedly adding almost 2 years to that figure. Very much like Vlade + youngsters from our glory days. Everybody else on the Bulls' roster who was 28+ was riding the pine, and would be gone within a year or two.
If you're just looking at age and winning, the 5 oldest teams in the NBA are currently winning .491 of their games, while the youngest 5 are winning .493, so there wouldn't seem to be much of a relationship at all.
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Fresno King
Starter
I'm enjoying the ride.
BTW, if this season was a roller coaster ride, what would we call it?
How about, "The Royal Pain"
Or, "Queasy Stomach"
Or, "The Screaming Buzzer-Beater?"
RaY Z
Starter
suppose the team is young when you consider the playing time they have had together as a team...
i mean this core has not even had half a season together, and considering that fact, i think reggie is doing the best job he can do. kinda reminds me of the bucks a few seasons ago (the year before the had bogut i think), where they had a couple of injuries but although they had a terrible record think many of the games they lost were by 5 points or less.
i mean this core has not even had half a season together, and considering that fact, i think reggie is doing the best job he can do. kinda reminds me of the bucks a few seasons ago (the year before the had bogut i think), where they had a couple of injuries but although they had a terrible record think many of the games they lost were by 5 points or less.
CruzDude
Senior Member sharing a brew with bajaden
What some of you don't get is that the Kings have 3/4 starters from last year injured, a new PG who wasn't even here in training camp, and two injuries (Kevin and RonRon) that happened weeks into the season that changed the lineup for the umpteenth time. If it was bench types that were injured completely different story. But with 60 points per game in street clothes, what else could possible happen than what we are seeing?
We're lucky they are doing as well as they are. Losing close games 5-6 times is encouraging given the facts of the situation and shows that King-2 are doing better than we might have expected.
We're lucky they are doing as well as they are. Losing close games 5-6 times is encouraging given the facts of the situation and shows that King-2 are doing better than we might have expected.
The blessing-in-disguise part about the injuries is that it gives players like Garcia, Douby, and to a lesser extent Hawes and Justin Williams a chance to prove themselves, and the Kings organization a chance to evaluate whether our draft picks/undrafted free agent pickups will turn out to be useful players for the future. It also gives us opportunity to pick up and try out guys like Beno and Dahntay Jones and see if they can benefit from a change in scenery.
we stink for 3 or 4 games. lose a few nailbiters. and come out and beat some of the best teams in the league. i wouldve put $500 on the magic last night. glad i didnt. bibby and martin should be back next game hopefully
You'd bet against your team?..
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Er, I would certainly hope so. Money and sentiment rarely mix.
tyrant
Starter
AyeCarly
G-League
Let's, talk about the guys who played on that team.
The starting 5 on that team had an average of 8.6 seasons under their belts.
(Kobe - 6, Fisher - 6, Fox - 11, Horry - 10, Shaq - 10. [6+6+11+10+10] / 5 = 8.6)
That is a veteran team.
The whole point of my post was to clarify what "age" our team is in terms of being "old" or "young", and again we are average.
My other point was that the best teams are older (on avg.) and that's fact, based on the link I provided. Arguing otherwise, is ignoring or not seeing clear statistics that point this out.
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