How would you grade D'Alessandro so far to this point??

What does his report card look like?


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I think it's impossible to grade him at this point...

I believe it was prudent to let Tyreke go. Yes, he's better than what we currently have at shooting guard but that's a very low bar. Shooting guards with weak ankles who can't shoot that make 11 million a year...PASS.

He's trying to make the team more athletic. You can't say that he hasn't been aggressive. The Iguodala flirtation was clumsy but the other moves were fairly bold.

He started in Maloofian quicksand and I hope he gets things right.
 
Yea, i too was a huge fan. But at some point you have to accept that he is never going to develop a consistent jumper. Then you have to look at his other talents. He is never going to be a assist leader and so his defense is going to have to be his calling card. Teams sag off of him on defense daring him to shoot and it clogs the lane. He would be the threat we all thought he would be if he was even a good shooter, but alas he does not seem to be improving. At this point the die is set.

I would have tolerated the lack of consistent jump shot because he plays good defense, rebounds well for a guard and gets to the hoop. He's essentially everything he was his rookie year with some regression. However, he can't stay on the court, which is something that is often overlooked.
 
The only thing Hardaway Jr does better than McLemore is shooting, and that is coming back at some point for BMac. Yes, no-dribble, no-defense, no-rebound Ben is still doing all those things better than TMJ.
And the moment Philly becomes interested in winning, MCW gets dropped to the bench, because no one tolerates low-efficiency, high TO playmaker, when wins are on the line. It's not just rookie struggles. He looked the same in college, and guys inefficient in college very rarely become efficient in the pros, unless you limit their role.
Last year's draft was simply this bad.

I agree with everything you said, except perhaps that last years draft was bad. And I do respect your opinion. I just think it's too early to pass judgement on last years draft. Of course it's all relative. It depends on what standard your judging against. I do think that we should all remember, that the player that everyone thought might be the first pick in the draft, Noel, hasn't played a game in the NBA this season. Had he not been injured, there's a good chance he would have been the first pick in the draft. However, there are no guarantee's that he would be blowing off anyone's socks.

In regards to B. Mac, I'm still very high on him. His shooting is the last thing I'm worried about. As soon as he figures out how to slow everything down, he'll start to look more like and NBA player. There aren't many players in the last draft that I would have taken over McLemore. MCW certainally isn't one of them. Neither is T.H. Jr. Lets check back in two years and see where we are.
 
My question is, can we reasonably expect major impact from next years rookies?

I'm beginning to wonder if it's even possible anymore. Too young, too raw.

Ben rushes pretty much everything. I have a feeling they are seeing quite a different player in practice. I sure hope so.
 
My question is, can we reasonably expect major impact from next years rookies?

I'm beginning to wonder if it's even possible anymore. Too young, too raw.

Ben rushes pretty much everything. I have a feeling they are seeing quite a different player in practice. I sure hope so.
Ben can use an off-season of getting stronger, he has the frame to put on some muscle and he needs that in the worst way right now.
 
Can't believe there are some people that give him an F or a D.. Glenn?! PDA has pretty much changed the entire roster, and he got a nice player for a lot of junk in the meantime. Yes we have too many PFs but I think he's done a heck of a job so far in such a short amount of time.

You cannot blame him for the Maloofs and Petrie. We all knew it was going to take time to rid ourselves of their junk. Giving him a D or an F is just stupid.
 
Can't believe there are some people that give him an F or a D.. Glenn?! PDA has pretty much changed the entire roster, and he got a nice player for a lot of junk in the meantime. Yes we have too many PFs but I think he's done a heck of a job so far in such a short amount of time.

You cannot blame him for the Maloofs and Petrie. We all knew it was going to take time to rid ourselves of their junk. Giving him a D or an F is just stupid.
I went with incomplete. Would you not say the same thing about the nine A grades? Both the A and F grades are on the extremes and they both can make a case depending on selective choosing of evidence. This time next year, the haze should be lifted and we should have a much better idea of what the vision is or if there even is a vision. Flip a coin 'cause it could go either way.
 
I'm stupid. OK. Now PDA needs to prove me wrong. I feel honored to be in the same group as the funky one.
 
I'm stupid. OK. Now PDA needs to prove me wrong. I feel honored to be in the same group as the funky one.

No, you're not stupid, but I think giving a D or F is kind of stupid. Any GM that can make this much change needs to at least have a C. Especially with what we had to trade. MBM for Williams? That was a great trade. Rudy for trash? Damn good trade based on the record when all the big three are playing. MT for Evans? Hell yah...

Why does he deserve a D?
 
No, you're not stupid, but I think giving a D or F is kind of stupid. Any GM that can make this much change needs to at least have a C. Especially with what we had to trade. MBM for Williams? That was a great trade. Rudy for trash? Damn good trade based on the record when all the big three are playing. MT for Evans? Hell yah...

Why does he deserve a D?

It's a game. It's a game. I'm a strict teacher. I think the signing of Landry was awful. Please defend that for me, please. I think the failure of adding defensive players to a team with a coach who is great at defense is awful. Defend that, please. The team is battling it out for the bottom of the Western Conference tonight. Don't use injuries as an excuse because every team has injuries. I think the last trade was a trade that just made it appear that something was accomplished hence my use of the term "smoke and mirrors." I see no purpose but that may be my lack of acumen.

We have no guards and are one injury away from disaster. We are dependent, and getting more dependent, on getting 40+ minutes out of a guy who can't pass out of a double team. What if he gets injured?

He looks like a gerbil.

The grading thing was a game but I am extremely unhappy with where this team is. I suspect there are a few unhappy players also.
 
The Landry signing so far as been very questionable. It has not paid dividends and has the possibility of tying up the available cap for numerous years. Until shown otherwise, that is grounds to drop a grade.

The team is lacking on the defensive end of the floor and he gets rid of the only defensive players Malone has should drop it another. Getting Evans maybe saves half a grade, maybe.

You can make a case for a bad grade. Me, I'm sticking to incomplete.
 
The Landry signing so far as been very questionable. It has not paid dividends and has the possibility of tying up the available cap for numerous years. Until shown otherwise, that is grounds to drop a grade.

The team is lacking on the defensive end of the floor and he gets rid of the only defensive players Malone has should drop it another. Getting Evans maybe saves half a grade, maybe.

You can make a case for a bad grade. Me, I'm sticking to incomplete.

Chicken. You're scared of Gary aren't you. ;)
 
I think the signing of Landry was awful. Please defend that for me, please

Landry was a questionable signing considering he got injured shortly. However, from the FO's perspective, they felt the locker room needed a veteran presence, something we all agree was needed. Landry was a guy who was familiar with Malone's system and had success in it, so in a way he was a player who could help other players be successful in the same system and teach them how to run it properly. While his contract may be exorbitant, this is Sacramento last time I checked. Not only is this a city where there isn't much to do, but the team was at least 2+ years away from competing for a playoff spot. I don't see many free agents jumping over each other for that kind of opportunity.

I think the failure of adding defensive players to a team with a coach who is great at defense is awful.

Let's look at the defensive players PDA has let go.

Toney Douglas - signed with the Warriors in the off season. Averaged 12 PTS, 3.5 RBS, 2.6 AST per 36 while only playing 11 minutes a game. Got traded to the Heat where he is averaging 5 minutes a game. Douglas plays defense, but there would have been no spot for him on the floor. The Kings went into the season with IT as their super sixth man who plays the same position as Douglas. He would have received 0 minutes playing behind Vasquez and IT. I don't think PDA is losing sleep over this, nor should anyone else.

Cole Aldrich - averaging 4 minutes for the Knicks.

Tyreke - Yes he was a good player but a definite risk considering his lack of ability to stay on the court. He's played less career games that Steph Curry. He's not exactly lighting the world on fire over their in New Orleans.

Luc Mbah a Moute - good defensive player who was received for only 2 secound round picks. Good trade for PDA as he acquired a talented asset for minimal cost.

Derrick Williams - everybody hated to see LMAM go because he represented everything that Kings fans have wanted in the past decade. Defense. At the time of the trade, the Kings were sorely lacking production at the SF position and needed to upgrade overall team talent. PDA saw Williams as a player with untapped potential, and we saw glimpses of it but it was derailed by the addition of Rudy Gay. Still a good trade as LMAM had not future with the team.

Rudy Gay - Good trade by PDA as he acquired a second scoring option in exchange for players who were considered a waste of roster space by this fan base.

I think the last trade was a trade that just made it appear that something was accomplished hence my use of the term "smoke and mirrors." I see no purpose but that may be my lack of acumen.

Thornton was never going to be productive on this team. PDA was able to break up his contract into smaller pieces which will be easier to trade in the off season.

The team is battling it out for the bottom of the Western Conference tonight. Don't use injuries as an excuse because every team has injuries.

The team is 14-15 when DMC, Gay and IT all play. I would say that it is a huge improvement over what we were seeing earlier in the year. To me, that looks like progress. Last time I checked, the Western Conference is tough. The 9th place Memphis Grizzlies would be 3rd best in the East. The Kings also have the highest SOS per ESPN.

We have no guards and are one injury away from disaster. We are dependent, and getting more dependent, on getting 40+ minutes out of a guy who can't pass out of a double team. What if he gets injured?

This team isn't making the playoffs, so if IT gets injured, big whoop. Why go trade for a backup PG and give up assets when you can just let McCallum gain experience? Instead of finishing 11th in the West, we might finish 12th. Devastating.

PDA was worked with an abbreviated off-season and has done a decent job with what he was left with. You get your star players and then build around them with role players. Not the other way around. Now that we have Cousins and hopefully Gay, PDA will make the finishing touches in the off season.

Patience is a virtue.
 
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I can tell who the optimists are by the A grades. And the pessimists by the Ds and Fs. I already knew some of you. :)
 
Only an idiot can give him a grade like an F let alone a D. He got us a 2nd scorer, didn't over pay for Evans, and might get us a top 5 pick.

Well, I think some people think getting a top 5 pick is huge failure, cause that would mean the team was awful. Which it is.

If you think that was his plan all along, then I can see that. Not sure the name calling is necessary, but to each his own.
 
Only an idiot can give him a grade like an F let alone a D. He got us a 2nd scorer, didn't over pay for Evans, and might get us a top 5 pick.
Or he stumbled into a 2nd scorer, wasn't going to re-sign Evans, overpaid or not, until Iguodala left him at the altar, signed redundant player for above MLE money...see, it works both ways.
 
If the question of the poll includes..." so far to this point". I don't understand the "INC" voters. o_O

It's a grade for how things have gone so far up until now. Not his final grade after an entire season and the following draft
 
If the question of the poll includes..." so far to this point". I don't understand the "INC" voters. o_O

It's a grade for how things have gone so far up until now. Not his final grade after an entire season and the following draft
For the same reason players get "INC" for the grades in the grades thread. Not enough to go on. There are some good points and there are the opposite bad points. Other than just acquiring talent and jettisoning players from the last regime, can you see the obvious plan going forward?
 
For the same reason players get "INC" for the grades in the grades thread. Not enough to go on. There are some good points and there are the opposite bad points. Other than just acquiring talent and jettisoning players from the last regime, can you see the obvious plan going forward?

Not enough to go on? The guy has been working non stop to try and improve this roster...and has done so. He made a great trade to get rid of 4 unproductive and uninspiring players for Rudy Gay and a very hardworking and inspiring young player Quincy Acy
 
Not enough to go on? The guy has been working non stop to try and improve this roster...and has done so. He made a great trade to get rid of 4 unproductive and uninspiring players for Rudy Gay and a very hardworking and inspiring young player Quincy Acy
I agree but there is also the Landry and how is that working? One could argue that he is shuffling chairs. I like the positives but I'm concerned about the negatives. The reasons for an A or B grade are overshadowed by the concerns that could justify a D or F grade and vice versa. A C grade is average and what he's done is not average, he has overturned nearly the entire roster and added talent. But the book is still being written on how it's all going to fit and turn out and for me that makes it incomplete. I'm hopeful but the next 12 months especially the next five should be telling.
 
I agree but there is also the Landry and how is that working? One could argue that he is shuffling chairs. I like the positives but I'm concerned about the negatives. The reasons for an A or B grade are overshadowed by the concerns that could justify a D or F grade and vice versa. A C grade is average and what he's done is not average, he has overturned nearly the entire roster and added talent. But the book is still being written on how it's all going to fit and turn out and for me that makes it incomplete. I'm hopeful but the next 12 months especially the next five should be telling.

We haven't had game changing wing player for a quite a long time. We picked up Rudy Gay who is that kind of player. That's not a chair shuffling move
 
We haven't had game changing wing player for a quite a long time. We picked up Rudy Gay who is that kind of player. That's not a chair shuffling move
That is just one move of the many he has made. And no that one move is not a chair shuffling move. What I said was, "one could argue that he is shuffling chairs," and you can. I did not say every move was a chair shuffling move. What is he doing in terms of power forwards, point guards or shooting guards? Shuffling players or chairs if you like. Whether or not these players will stick around, form a cohesive unit or not is still an open book. You think he's done great or at least good, great and that's your opinion. Others think he's a gerbil and done poorly, great and that's their opinion. I see the validity of arguments for both points of view. I don't think there is enough evidence to conclusively swing it either way. Incomplete.
 
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