how do you feel about the mavs now?

tyrant

tyrant

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congrats mavs, i used to dislike them, but they have won me over with their fearlessness and great defense. dirk is closing games and they finally can rely on their defense to shut you down if they need to. i can't say that i am going to be a mavs fan from now on, but they have earned respect from me.

another thing is that when dallas went up 3-0 alot of commentators were making tons of excuses for the lakers. talking about what the lakers didnt do and not giving credit to what dallas did. lakers are old, gasol has issues off the court, blah blah blah. i am very happy to see other teams beating up on the lakers and celtics. i was going to jump off a bridge if i saw one more lakers/celtics finals. these teams like memphis, dallas, the new look heat, bulls, etc are tired of it as well. they're young, they're big, and they've seen enough. these teams are playing great defense and they're gona go out and hit you in the mouth early; and if you dont fight back you're gona face an early summer vacation like the lakers.
 
Bricklayer

Bricklayer

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It was a memorable win, but it hardly changes what the Mavs are and are not. They have an opening this year, but they're at least as old and tired a concept as the Lakers, Celtics or Spurs.
 
Glenn

Glenn

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Bricklayer said:
It was a memorable win, but it hardly changes what the Mavs are and are not. They have an opening this year, but they're at least as old and tired a concept as the Lakers, Celtics or Spurs.
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I'm not sure what this means. The old and tired concepts are in the playoffs. We aren't. Mavericks have won over 50 games 11 years in a row. We haven't. Mavs will spend money and we won't. Spurs are an outlier in that they had the good fortune of Robinson being injured so they could get on eof the best players of the decade. Otherwise the tired old concept occurs because either the cities involved make so much money they can throw it away or have owners who can throw it away or both. We either can't do that or won't do that.

Our concept is old and tired also.
 
bozzwell

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Bricklayer said:
It was a memorable win, but it hardly changes what the Mavs are and are not. They have an opening this year, but they're at least as old and tired a concept as the Lakers, Celtics or Spurs.
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If anything, Mavs are much older then the other 3 veteran play off teams. Makes it so much more exciting/puzzling that they are able to do what they did. Lakers certainly rolled over and died 1000 deaths in game 4, but who would have thought it that Mavs would: a) be in that position and b) just feast on Lakers corpse like it's no thing.

I get it that Dirk is better then he was ever given credit (well, his teams did tend to choke in a big way, so...), and that maybe since 2007 collective choke job he made a leap and is able to use his size better then ever to get off his shots (and no, having undersized guys try to suffocate him does not work anymore). I get it that Carlisle is a very underrated coach who it seems learned his lessons from Detroit/Indy (or he is just so much less grating on NBA talent then Avery was that he didn't have to change). But Kidd, Barea, Stojakovic? And how many times was Chandler written off as too injury prone/unreliable/small hands/liability on offence? Jason Terry as a reformed black-hole come team player? Cuban won't talk to media? Whatever next?

I still dislike that franchise, intensly. But I will root for them over Lakers and Miami. And it does seem like they will face a boneheaded team in the WCF no matter what (OKC or Memphis) and Miami if they make it to the finals.
 
pdxKingsFan

pdxKingsFan

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Never hated the team like some. But I rooted against them the time they played the Heat and now would root for them if that happened again. Seems like they are more lucky than good, with San Antonio just disappearing from the playoffs altogether and the Lakers deciding to implode. This is still a team that blew a 20 pt lead in the 4th quarter (well I guess it was whittled to 17 or 18 at the precise start) a few weeks ago. They do have the depth to match up with the Heat but if they win it won't be the start of a new Mavs era.
 
tyrant

tyrant

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the core group of guys are over 30 and kidd is dam near 40 so i would say this is an old team, and the concept of offense first, defense second has lasted until now. this organization has found a way to excersise the choking out of all its players. in game three the lakers threw everything they had at dallas and kobe only attempted one freethrow in game 3. in game 4 he attempted 4. this is just smart defense. this is maturity and attention to detail. kobe, you're not as quick as you used to be and we know what you're going to do. but we are not going to bail you out by biting on your up fakes and sending you to the line. we're gona dig into your upper body and moving our feet to keep you off balance
 
tyrant

tyrant

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i think dallas will go to the finals by beating okc in 7 games, but will ultimately lose to the heat again in the finals. but i think as long as dirk plays well they'll be a 50+ win team. and like a lot of other great bigs in league history he will be ringless. good, very good, but just ringless because the star players that have started before and after him are just plain better
 
SacKings7

SacKings7

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I still don't like them. This is the best team the Mavs have ever had, but I'm still not sure if they can win it all. Some people think they are a lock for the Finals now, but I guarantee that whoever they face next round, it's going at least 6 games. The Thunder/Grizz aren't gonna roll over for anybody.

Makes ya wonder if they'd still be in the same position if Caron was healthy
 
Bricklayer

Bricklayer

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Glenn said:
I'm not sure what this means. The old and tired concepts are in the playoffs. We aren't. Mavericks have won over 50 games 11 years in a row. We haven't. Mavs will spend money and we won't. Spurs are an outlier in that they had the good fortune of Robinson being injured so they could get on eof the best players of the decade. Otherwise the tired old concept occurs because either the cities involved make so much money they can throw it away or have owners who can throw it away or both. We either can't do that or won't do that.

Our concept is old and tired also.
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When you're an old and tired concept then you do not excite, and you rarely surprise. They did here, but that series was really more about the Lakers meltdown then the Mavs until the fun explosion in Game 4. But that's over now, and they are back to the same ole same ole last remnant of the old guard in these playoffs (assuming the Celtics lose now). Ansolutely nothing to get excited about. Just there. Again. As they've been for a decade. except now really running out of time with the teamwide decreptitude.
 
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Superman

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I never really disliked the Mavs. Had some uppity fans on the board back in the day, especially during the '03 playoff series, but I never had a problem with the team. Thought Dirk was soft, thought Nelly's small-ball was a joke, Cuban was annoying, but I didn't actively dislike the team. And as Cuban has toned down, he's proven himself as one of the best pro sports owners in the country. I don't understand why MLB doesn't want him; he'd be a fantastic MLB owner.

Anyways, I congratulate them in their recent successes. No skin off my back.
 
Variant

Variant

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Haha, I'm still not sold on the Mavs! Maybe thinking they'll have a letdown against whoever the WCF opponent is? I do expect them to make the Finals, but will their amazing shooting streak continue enough to propel them past the Heat?
 
est.1999

est.1999

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The grizzlies and heat will close out on the Mavs' three point shooting. I think they'll get by the winner of the grizz/thunder series just based on hunger and experience but I think Miami will get them in 6.
 
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Rose2Thomas

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They'll probably make the finals, but I've been wrong about the Grizzlies every round so far. Derrick Rose will torch them in the Finals though. I see a repeat of 06 with Rose taking over Wade's role.
 
RookieOfTheDay

RookieOfTheDay

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I hated the Mavs back when the Kings were good. Once the Kings stopped being good though, I started kind of liking them. Kings fans have a lot in common with Mavs fans. We've both had some great teams that came close but in the end both ended up with heartbreak and disappointment instead of a ring. We got screwed in 02, they got screwed in 06. I was rooting for them big time in the 2006 finals. Dirk is a class act, a great player and deserves a ring. Cuban is a great owner too, does what it takes to put a 50+ win team on the floor every single year. My first choice would still be for the Celtics to win but if they can't do it this year i'm rooting for the Mavs all the way.
 
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swisshh

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I'd argue that Dirk is in better form than Kobe, KG or Ray. Maybe Pierce, too. It doesn't look like Dirk's lost a step and his game doesn't abuse his body as much.

Guys like Kidd and Peja are on their last years, but Terry and Dirk look fine. Their depth also covers up for their age.
 
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LWP777

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I don't understand all the hate on the Mavs. I've really enjoyed watching them in the playoffs and I'm pulling for them the rest of the way. I think in a lot of ways we are jealous because they are everything we hope to be someday. They have an extremely passionate owner in Cuban who has turned the franchise around since he purchased the team (they used to be a laughingstock for many years before him) and he's willing to spend money to make the team competitive. The face of the team, Dirk, seems to be a really good guy and a class act all around. They have a beautiful arena with a great fan base. What's not to like?

They are playing really well right now and I wouldn't be shocked if they won the NBA championship. Go Mavs!
 
MassachusettsKingsFan

MassachusettsKingsFan

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I hope they do it this season. I simply cannot stand the Heat/Bulls/Hawks in the east and If I had to choose between Dallas or OKC/Memphis .. I think OKC is the best team left in the WC, but I pulling for the Mavs.
 
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ArcoKings said:
After OKC beats the Grizzlies the Mavs will go down to the Thunder. It will be a fun series to watch.
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I don't think so. The Mavs are hot and have the experience. The Thunder is not ready for the NBA finals. But I sure do feel sorry for the old fans in Seattle.
 
Mr. S£im Citrus

Mr. S£im Citrus

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**** 'em. Congratulations, and thank you for beating the gd lakers, Mavericks... now, kindly drop off the face of the earth.

I like Kidd, and all, but Nowitzki more or less embodies what I hate in the NBA, and Stojakovic is my second least-favorite King of all time.
 
TehSwimGuy

TehSwimGuy

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Mr. S£im Citrus said:
**** 'em. Congratulations, and thank you for beating the gd lakers, Mavericks... now, kindly drop off the face of the earth.

I like Kidd, and all, but Nowitzki more or less embodies what I hate in the NBA, and Stojakovic is my second least-favorite King of all time.
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Why? He was a fantastic player, and one of only a handful of all-stars to come through this organization. Sure, he had some chokes now and then, but he still was pretty damn good.
 
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