Honeycutt is the Only Player with a Role on this Team

From the Kings.com hype blog:

Coach Smart, acknowledging No. 13’s improved accuracy, believes Evans’ versatility will allow him to play nearly every spot on the court – a point of emphasis for every player on the roster during camp.

“We’re going to play a good basketball player where a good basketball player can help a team win,” said the Kings leader. “If (Evans) can help us win playing center, he might play center that night … I don’t want to lock a good basketball player into one position … If he’s good, it makes no difference where he plays.

“I don’t want to type-cast and put these guys in a certain role right now – I want to see how they develop and see what it is that they can do to help our team. Last night, I shared with them, the goal is only one – to win the game (on a given) night.”

http://thekingsblog.com/2012/10/t-rob-opens-eyes-on-day-1/

Sincerely,
Don Nelson
 
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Oh Jeebus.


This is why I'm having trouble getting optimistic. Even with all the young talent we keep stockpiling, we just kill whatever potential they have once they are drafted by us. I dont even think that kind of statement is hyperbole anymore. The coaching we have had since RA has just been awful. **** those cheap *** Maloofs.

One can only imagine how good Reke would be by now if he was drafted by the Spurs.
 
Hell, if it's game 6 of the finals, and Evans needs to play at the 5 because Cousins has the flu, Thompson stubbed his toe, and Hayes, well, is Hayes, then I'm willing to let it slide. Sounds like he hasn't given up on the Brooks/IT/Thornton/Salmons/Evans lineup. I'm sure he wants to try it now.
If Smart is going to pull this **** of putting Evans at SF/PF/Whatever because he can, then it was nice having Evans in Sacramento, and by extension, Cousins.
 
Is anybody else getting sick of hearing about these new young coaches like Smart? All of them talk about how much game tape they have reviewed and how many time they review all the plays from from the 70's and 80's and etc. I remembered Muss and Theus saying the same crap when they were here. I wish they would just shut it and coach. You don't hear Adelman or Popovich or Sloan ever talking about their preparation. They just coach their way.
 
Well, there goes some of my hope that Smart will define roles. Why, with young players, wouldn't you define their roles, let them concentrate of playing a position or two at the most, and let them try to excel there? Why give them the expectation their role and/or position might change from night to night?

It'll be mighty tough to form consistency if your coach is consistently playing you in different positions with different roles. This isn't AAU, it's the freakin NBA.

BTW, anyone see in the Hollinger article that under his analysis of Cuz Hollinger noticed Smarts poor sub patterns? Playing Cuz 15 min stretches? Just let guys concentrate on a position or two, let them learn it, and do everyone a favor by implementing an intelligent sub pattern.
 
This is my major crticism for this team. Im not sure if theres ever been a team with this much talent with such a horrible win loss record. The reason for all of it is obvious. The coach isnt getting it done.
 
oh dear lord...

:mad:

basketball is not rocket science. its a game that's been won in a variety of ways across its brief history, but there is not so much deviation between the various styles of play that a newbie head coach like keith smart can attempt to flip the script on young players who already understand that role definition is the easiest way to breed consistency. there is plenty of room for creativity, as long as it does not come at the expense of wins. this is what rick adelman understood so well as former coach of the sacramento kings. he ran a creative offensive system that maximized his players' talents and sold each of them on a specific, if occasionally flexible role. his team was consistent. they built chemistry. they won...

but what keith smart is talking about is basketball bedlam. it's chaos manifest on the court. telling his entire team, 1-12, that they will each go without a set role is, quite possibly, the most desperate, most asinine move i've ever heard from an nba head coach. and the season has not even begun yet. if he feels like he needs "to see how they develop and see what it is that they can do to help our team," if he doesn't know what he has in players like cousins, evans, thornton, thomas, thompson, etc., then he's just not equipped to coach this team. he's not. simple. period. end of story. if you're seriously telling tyreke evans that he may, situationally, occupy the center position this season, you've got very little acumen as a head coach of a professional basketball team. i don't care if it was said hypothetically or to make a point. this is the kinda **** that causes GM's across the league to intervene on behalf of the good of their teams. nba head coaches get canned for less than this level of idiocy. but not keith smart. not on this team. he'll probably get extended for another year for these comments...

:rolleyes:

even smart's great mentor, don nelson, understood the importance of true centers, of defined roles. he referred to the warriors' recent acquisition of andrew bogut as an absolute coup, cuz you just don't trade a talented 7-footer for a talented guard. and you don't play small when you've got that kinda size on your side. its why nelson was always frustrated with andris biedrins, because he needed biedrins to play bigger than he does, on both sides of the ball. though the SF position remains an amorphous notion for the kings, with a PF/C rotation of cousins/thompson/robinson, there is absolutely NO reason that they should be playing small or out-of-position this season, except in the rare match-up advantage. yet i just know that keith smart will use this tremendously important year in the kings' development to experiment with lineups that will not result in consistency, chemistry, or wins. it depresses me...
 
From the Kings.com hype blog:



Sincerely,
Don Nelson

I don’t want to lock a good basketball player into one position … If he’s good, it makes no difference where he plays.
That's a load of crapola.

There's a reason Dirk doesn't play SF. Rose doesn't play SG/SF. Westbrook doesn't play SG/SF. Kobe doesn't play SF. Rondo doesn't play SG. Ray Allen doesn't play point. Etc, etc.

You find the best position for a guy and let him concentrate on excelling in that position. Reke guarding 3's, 4's and 5's does not help us defensively and puts us at a disadvantage. Same with Chuck at center. TRob at center. MT guarding SF's. Any of IT/Brooks/Jimmer at the 2.

Manu is a great player. So someone point out all the times Pop played him at SF and PF since positions don't matter? Oh that's right, Pop doesn't play him in those positions, although Nelson might have.....
 
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Am I the only one who thinks Jones wrote this to mess with the fan base? I'd love to know what questions Jones asked to elicit the responses he quotes.
 
oh dear lord...

:mad:

basketball is not rocket science. its a game that's been won in a variety of ways across its brief history, but there is not so much deviation between the various styles of play that a newbie head coach like keith smart can attempt to flip the script on young players who already understand that role definition is the easiest way to breed consistency. there is plenty of room for creativity, as long as it does not come at the expense of wins. this is what rick adelman understood so well as former coach of the sacramento kings. he ran a creative offensive system that maximized his players' talents and sold each of them on a specific, if occasionally flexible role. his team was consistent. they built chemistry. they won...

but what keith smart is talking about is basketball bedlam. it's chaos manifest on the court. telling his entire team, 1-12, that they will each go without a set role is, quite possibly, the most desperate, most asinine move i've ever heard from an nba head coach. and the season has not even begun yet. if he feels like he needs "to see how they develop and see what it is that they can do to help our team," if he doesn't know what he has in players like cousins, evans, thornton, thomas, thompson, etc., then he's just not equipped to coach this team. he's not. simple. period. end of story. if you're seriously telling tyreke evans that he may, situationally, occupy the center position this season, you've got very little acumen as a head coach of a professional basketball team. i don't care if it was said hypothetically or to make a point. this is the kinda **** that causes GM's across the league to intervene on behalf of the good of their teams. nba head coaches get canned for less than this level of idiocy. but not keith smart. not on this team. he'll probably get extended for another year for these comments...

:rolleyes:

even smart's great mentor, don nelson, understood the importance of true centers, of defined roles. he referred to the warriors' recent acquisition of andrew bogut as an absolute coup, cuz you just don't trade a talented 7-footer for a talented guard. and you don't play small when you've got that kinda size on your side. its why nelson was always frustrated with andris biedrins, because he needed biedrins to play bigger than he does, on both sides of the ball. though the SF position remains an amorphous notion for the kings, with a PF/C rotation of cousins/thompson/robinson, there is absolutely NO reason that they should be playing small or out-of-position this season, except in the rare match-up advantage. yet i just know that keith smart will use this tremendously important year in the kings' development to experiment with lineups that will not result in consistency, chemistry, or wins. it depresses me...

They say the greatest minds defy common convention. I'm not sure Smart is one of them though.
 
That's a load of crapola.

There's a reason Dirk doesn't play SF. Rose doesn't play SG/SF. Westbrook doesn't play SG/SF. Kobe doesn't play SF. Rondo doesn't play SG. Ray Allen doesn't play point. Etc, etc.

You find the best position for a guy and let him concentrate on excelling in that position. Reke guarding 3's, 4's and 5's does not help us defensively and puts us at a disadvantage. Same with Chuck at center. TRob at center. MT guarding SF's. Any of IT/Brooks/Jimmer at the 2.

Manu is a great player. So someone point out all the times Pop played him at SF and PF since positions don't matter? Oh that's right, Pop doesn't play him in those positions, although Nelson might have.....

Smart was obviously joking about Evans at the 5. To be fair, Evans moving between 1-2-3 makes a lot more sense than Dirk at SF or Rondo at SG. The other thing is .. Dirk doesn't have another Dirk level talent competing with him for that roster spot. Evans does. Thornton and Evans are very close talent wise in 2012. Evans has more potential, yes, but Thornton is a damn good player. If Evans is truly playing SG for 100% of his minutes Thornton will be rightfully pissed.

And that's on Geoff, really. I've been fairly happy with Smart this offseason and through training camp. Smarts options with this roster are both limited and unlimited. Something is going to HAVE to give with the SG spot. Thornton deserves minutes, Evans deserves minutes.

The only way to keep players happy and minutes fair is to give Evans 10-15 minutes a night at 'backup' SF. Its not ideal, but its reality while Thornton is on the team. Thomas and Brooks are your point guards. Thornton takes 30 minutes playing super backup SG, Evans Starts and gets 18 minutes at SG and 15 minutes at SF, while possibly picking up backup PG minutes if someone gets injured.

However, just like the Carl Landry situation that clogged up our big man rotation, I think Thornton will eventually be moved. I felt much better about things before Brooks was signed, because then Evans could have slid to the PG when Thomas came out, but it looks like that ship has sailed.
 
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