Griffin's height in socks:

Yeah, I read somewhere else today that he is legit 6'10 in sneaks...so that is very good. BUT this video is what has me getting all my lucky charms together for tommorrow :D:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_zIAgFKdtg&feature=player_embedded

Having watched this guy play 20 plus games over the last two years, nothing in there that surprises me. I'm just praying for the first pick in the draft. You get your charms together and I'll light my candles. :)
 
Yeah, I read somewhere else today that he is legit 6'10 in sneaks...so that is very good. BUT this video is what has me getting all my lucky charms together for tommorrow :D:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_zIAgFKdtg&feature=player_embedded


I found the Sooners' announcer a bit annoying...

"Blake Griffin...slam!...SLAM!!...slAm!...slam!...slam!!!...s s slam!!...slam a lama ding dong!!...Slam!! Slam! Slaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamz!!!1!1!!!!111!!!"


plz use a new word :)

/rant
 
I'll believe it when I see the official draft measurements. But being 6'9" in socks will definitely help Griffin's strengths translate to the tougher, taller NBA game.

If his height becomes non-issue - and not to be a hater - the biggest question marks about Blake will continue to be his defense, free throw shooting and range outside the basket.

Looking forward to the lottery tomorrow -
 
I'll believe it when I see the official draft measurements. But being 6'9" in socks will definitely help Griffin's strengths translate to the tougher, taller NBA game.

If his height becomes non-issue - and not to be a hater - the biggest question marks about Blake will continue to be his defense, free throw shooting and range outside the basket.

Looking forward to the lottery tomorrow -



Not to be a debater, but how much range did Dwight Howard have outside the basket when he came into the league? How much range did Karl Malone have outside the basket when he came into the league? How good a free throw shooter were either one of them?

There's no measurement history to go by with Malone, but he was always listed at 6'9". So I'll assume thats what he was in shoes.

Here are Howard's stats from the combine.

6'9" WO shoes, 240 Lbs., 7' 4.5" WS, 9' 3.5" SR, 30.5" Standing Vertical, 35.5" Max Vertical.

I know most people think that Howard is close to 7' tall and is nothing short of superman. He does look the part. But he's not as tall as one would think and his standing reach is good but not special. But he is!!! There's more than height and jumping ability to being a special player. Barkley was 6'4" and played PF and no one could stop him on the block.

I don't think that I've ever seen a player thats accomplished what Griffin has accomplished. Been the number one consensus player from the beginning, and been nit picked as much. I'm totally befuddled why people have to find some flaw to comment on. I mean seriously folks. There's a lot more to like than dislike. This is a guy that broke Tim Duncan's double/double record for one year. But all I hear is that he might be only 6'7" tall. Early on I saw posts that said he didn't look very athletic. I thought to myself, what the hell are they watching?

His neck is too short, or his arms are too short, or perhaps his head is too long.... Its damm amazing he was able to score or rebound at all with all his deficences. Excuse my rant, but I've had it with all the negative comments. The dude is a great athlete thats probably 6'9" in his bare feet. He's a great jumper and is one of the quickest big men that I have ever seen, and I've seen a lot of them. He can score with either hand and he's incrediblely strong. From all reports he has a great work ethic and is very coachable. He is!! The closest thing to a sure thing in this draft. Just pray we have the opportunity to draft him.

By the way, this was not intended to pick on you in particular. I just felt the need to get something off my chest.:)
 
Now you are working too hard ont he behalf of a guy who's current claim to fame was being good at beating up on 6'7" guys in college -- Dwight Howard a) was 18 when those stats were taken; and b) might be the most explosive leaping big man since Wilt Chamberlain.
 
Now you are working too hard ont he behalf of a guy who's current claim to fame was being good at beating up on 6'7" guys in college -- Dwight Howard a) was 18 when those stats were taken; and b) might be the most explosive leaping big man since Wilt Chamberlain.

What was Howard's claim to fame, beating up on 6'5" guys in high school? ;)
 
I'll just be happy if he's not 6'7 in shoes at this point. He doesn't look 6'10 at all, he just looks short to me. No matter where we pick, he'd still be my pick but i'll believe the 6'10 in shoes when the combine results show it.

And I notice the video embedded in the article called Kevin Martin, Calvin. "Sacramento had the worst record, so let Calvin Martin have 14 throws at the bullseye." lulz.
 
Now you are working too hard ont he behalf of a guy who's current claim to fame was being good at beating up on 6'7" guys in college -- Dwight Howard a) was 18 when those stats were taken; and b) might be the most explosive leaping big man since Wilt Chamberlain.

Soooo....its possible that Griffin might be the most explosive big man since Howard? By the way, no one seemed to care when Duncan was beating up on 6'7" guys in college.

Look, no one's perfect, but I guess I'm just amazed how so many people find fault with someone thats done nothing but win, break records, average a double/double for the year, and in general be a good all around dude. I suspect that he might be better than Never Nervous Pervis...

Maybe I'am trying too hard. I'm suddenly feeling tired. I moved too many rocks today...
 
Look, no one's perfect, but I guess I'm just amazed how so many people find fault with someone thats done nothing but win, break records, average a double/double for the year, and in general be a good all around dude. I suspect that he might be better than Never Nervous Pervis...

You just descibed Tyler Hansbrough. It does not always translate.
 
It happens to all no.1 picks sans maybe Lebron. On top of that Griffin isn't widely considered a franchise player, some will go that far but most people won't. There's an expectation that comes along with the first pick, even when it's not considered a strong draft. I don't think Griffin is any special case as far as criticism goes.

As far as Griffin being possibly the most athletic big man since Howard, I think that statement is a bit dubious since you're talking only a span of 5 drafts and he's certainly not on Howard's level athletically.
 
Personally, I'm kinda on the fence ATM over which side to choose, the Griffin boosters or bashers.

...I'll pick a side tomorrow after 5:30pm :p
 
Wow. Comparing Griffin's game to Hansbrough game? You're the one with issues on this issue.


I of course said nothing of the kind, and that's not even a terribly clever attempt to twist s short, simple, and to the point post for your own purposes. You would, however, have a nice career in politics.
 
It happens to all no.1 picks sans maybe Lebron. On top of that Griffin isn't widely considered a franchise player, some will go that far but most people won't. There's an expectation that comes along with the first pick, even when it's not considered a strong draft. I don't think Griffin is any special case as far as criticism goes.

As far as Griffin being possibly the most athletic big man since Howard, I think that statement is a bit dubious since you're talking only a span of 5 drafts and he's certainly not on Howard's level athletically.

In your opinion, of course...:)
 
I am less concerned about Griffin than I was initially because of the Beasley comparison. An undersized PF Beasley this last year goes from a rebounding monster in college to a 5 rebound/game guy in the NBA. Is Blake the next undersized PF whose rebounding and power doesn't translate?

This video was one thing that changed my thinking:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znxwlkye9sI

After watching that, you can see Beasley's weak style - bouncing around and scoring outside. Griffin is in the paint, playing hard, is clearly athletic, making plays in traffic like a real PF, and doesn't shy away from contact. That game was also over a year ago and he has improved since then. If he measures out a full 6'10" in shoes I think his game has a much better chance of translating.
 
Webber was listed at 6-10 and so was Peja. Webber is shorter than Peja.

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I don't see why we're argueing over an inch or two. Griffin is a physical specimen with rediculous athletic ability. Anything he lacks in height he will make up for with athleticism and effort. I am not concerened about his height at all. I would rather have Griffin under the boards at 6'7" or 6'8" than any king since CWebb.
 
Webber was listed at 6-10 and so was Peja. Webber is shorter than Peja.

phf-aacr035.jpg

In that picture they look about the same height and Christie looks about the same, give or take an inch, and he's listed at 6'6. The image is skewed because Peja is in the foreground.
 
In that picture they look about the same height and Christie looks about the same, give or take an inch, and he's listed at 6'6. The image is skewed because Peja is in the foreground.

I've seen other pictures as well that showed Peja being taller than Webber. My point is Griffin is not 6'7 but 6'9 to 6'10 which is more than enough considering his physical tools.
 
I've seen other pictures as well that showed Peja being taller than Webber. My point is Griffin is not 6'7 but 6'9 to 6'10 which is more than enough considering his physical tools.


Wait..what did I miss there.

1) Webber was about the same height as Peja (not a revelation -- he was listed at 6'9 1/2")
2) because Webber was the same height as Peja, Griffin is 6'10??
er...


Now IF Griffin is 6'10", then things definitely look up there. He is still no lock to be a superstar or whatnot, but at that height and with his athleticism he should at least be a solid contributor. But the question asked for a long time has been precisely is he really 6'10"? Or is he closer to 6'7"/6'8" where the hit percentages begin to really shrink and he almost has to be a star just to be useful.
 
Wait..what did I miss there.

1) Webber was about the same height as Peja (not a revelation -- he was listed at 6'9 1/2")
2) because Webber was the same height as Peja, Griffin is 6'10??
er...


Now IF Griffin is 6'10", then things definitely look up there. He is still no lock to be a superstar or whatnot, but at that height and with his athleticism he should at least be a solid contributor. But the question asked for a long time has been precisely is he really 6'10"? Or is he closer to 6'7"/6'8" where the hit percentages begin to really shrink and he almost has to be a star just to be useful.

Maybe we should ask Peja...:D
 
Charles Barkley was frequently listed as 6'6-6'7, but was actually only 6'4...Fat Lever was only 6'4 but grabbed rebounds like a PF...Bobby Jackson is 6'0 but plays like a PF...my point being, players that aren't as tall as they're listed can make up for it with heart and determination if they've got it.
 
With the short guys - it's a combination of heart, instincts, and skill, plus, they're freakin' anomalies!

And not to beat a dead horse here - but Griffin's lack of range could be a problem if his skills don't translate to the NBA. Even with height, he's no sure thing...that's what makes the draft such an "inexact science." Plus, he could blow out his knees - what would that leave us with then? Of course, now I'm picking the nitty gritty, and the positives really outweigh the negatives if this guy is legitimately 6'9 -6'10...really hoping we can get that #1 spot.

...and trade Beno for Rubio.
 
And not to beat a dead horse here - but Griffin's lack of range could be a problem if his skills don't translate to the NBA. Even with height, he's no sure thing...that's what makes the draft such an "inexact science." Plus, he could blow out his knees - what would that leave us with then?

When you put it that way, we should probably just forfeit the pick and save ourselves the pain. ;)
 
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