Grant Napier to Continue at 1140????? - Maloofs will Clean House (IMHO)

Warhawk

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#31
Just to clarify - Grant has two employers. While doing Kings games on TV, he is employed by the Kings. When doing his radio show, he is employed by KHTK. One has nothing to do with the other. If the Kings move and he doesn't want to move, there is no reason to think he wouldn't/couldn't continue at KHTK.

I had not heard him talk about getting an apartment, but it sounded like he was dead set on continuing to work for KHTK and stay local when he discussed it on his show yesterday or the day before, I think.
 
#32
I had not heard him talk about getting an apartment, but it sounded like he was dead set on continuing to work for KHTK and stay local when he discussed it on his show yesterday or the day before, I think.
Grant can stay at my place as long as he refills the ice trays and helps take out the trash before the trash guy comes on monday morning.
 
#33
I have no idea; that's why I asked the question. Maybe there's a whole bunch. Maybe, as it is here in Hampton Roads, he's the only one.
Officially, there are two sports stations in the Sacramento market: KHTK (50,000 watts, Fox Sports affiliation, broadcasting sports since 1994), and KCTC (5,000 watts, ESPN affiliate, broadcasting sports since 2007).

In practice, there's just KHTK.
 
#34
Just to clarify - Grant has two employers. While doing Kings games on TV, he is employed by the Kings. When doing his radio show, he is employed by KHTK. One has nothing to do with the other. If the Kings move and he doesn't want to move, there is no reason to think he wouldn't/couldn't continue at KHTK.
Sort of. MS&E have a contract with KHTK which requires them to give extensive air time to the Kings (and Monarchs, when they existed). Although the details of the contract aren't public, the Maloofs seem to have full control over who covers the Kings on KHTK, which might explain why all of those people are also MS&E employees. It superficially looks like two distinct employment relationships, but consider the cases of Koz and Kayte, who both disappeared from KHTK the moment that MS&E let them go. Freakish coincidence, or one gig slightly disguised as two?

It might be relevant to this discussion to point out that MS&E's contract with KHTK runs out this year.
http://www.nba.com/kings/news/KHTK_and_Infinity_Broadcast.html
 

rainmaker

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#35
Sort of. MS&E have a contract with KHTK which requires them to give extensive air time to the Kings (and Monarchs, when they existed). Although the details of the contract aren't public, the Maloofs seem to have full control over who covers the Kings on KHTK, which might explain why all of those people are also MS&E employees. It superficially looks like two distinct employment relationships, but consider the cases of Koz and Kayte, who both disappeared from KHTK the moment that MS&E let them go. Freakish coincidence, or one gig slightly disguised as two?

It might be relevant to this discussion to point out that MS&E's contract with KHTK runs out this year.
http://www.nba.com/kings/news/KHTK_and_Infinity_Broadcast.html
Maybe.

Koz got booted from KHTK after his horrible mid day show, which was a 2nd shot for him, after being originally let go from his night time show a few months earlier. Couldn't have happened soon enough IMO. Koz would have rather talked about washing his car then talk about the Kings.

As for Kayte, she was released from MSE, as a sideline reporter, and Kings talk as well as the postgame were the only other things she had going here, working seperately for KHTK. She then took off for NY, for bigger and better things. Would have liked to keep her around though. Far better then Henry Turner, who murders the english language every time he opens his mouth.
 
#37
Maybe.

Koz got booted from KHTK after his horrible mid day show, which was a 2nd shot for him, after being originally let go from his night time show a few months earlier. Couldn't have happened soon enough IMO. Koz would have rather talked about washing his car then talk about the Kings.

As for Kayte, she was released from MSE, as a sideline reporter, and Kings talk as well as the postgame were the only other things she had going here, working seperately for KHTK. She then took off for NY, for bigger and better things. Would have liked to keep her around though. Far better then Henry Turner, who murders the english language every time he opens his mouth.
Totally in agreement, about all 3 people.

And fnordius -
Grant was an employee of KHTK for over a decade before MS&E ever came into town or got involved with the Kings.

His show talks about all sports, not just the Kings (who obviously dominate the topic). He regularly asks listeners to talk about any sport, and is knowledgeable about most, if not all of them.

Why you keep thinking Grant would be unemployable if the Kings leave is getting kind of irrational on your part, given his history in Sac and with KHTK.
 
#38
Why you keep thinking Grant would be unemployable if the Kings leave is getting kind of irrational on your part, given his history in Sac and with KHTK.
I don't think he's unemployable, but I think it's a very unstable employment situation. I've listened to KHTK everywhere from Los Banos to Bolinas to Medford, but only to hear the Kings. I just googled their Arbitron ratings, and found that they'd fallen off to the point that KCTC, an upstart with 1/10th the wattage, now has more listeners during much of the day. Since KHTK's signal has far more reach, that means they're getting killed in the immediate Sacramento area, which is not a good sign.

I can't help but think that KHTK's fortunes have followed the team's, and that they're going to have to deal with the potential loss of even more market share somehow. I can't guess what all that might entail, but I'm glad to not be a KHTK employee right now.
 
#39
I don't think he's unemployable, but I think it's a very unstable employment situation. I've listened to KHTK everywhere from Los Banos to Bolinas to Medford, but only to hear the Kings. I just googled their Arbitron ratings, and found that they'd fallen off to the point that KCTC, an upstart with 1/10th the wattage, now has more listeners during much of the day. Since KHTK's signal has far more reach, that means they're getting killed in the immediate Sacramento area, which is not a good sign.

I can't help but think that KHTK's fortunes have followed the team's, and that they're going to have to deal with the potential loss of even more market share somehow. I can't guess what all that might entail, but I'm glad to not be a KHTK employee right now.
That was when Koz was doing days at KHTK. Not the case anymore.
 
#40
That was when Koz was doing days at KHTK. Not the case anymore.
Link?

Ratings info is very hard to come by, unless one pays for it. Here's what I have for KHTK news and trends in general:

2002: KHTK is used as an example of an excellent sports station in an Arbitron paper. Almost 10% of its market demographic tune in regularly, for at least long enough to catch scores.
2008: F.P.Santangelo is canned due to budget cuts, moves to SF station KNBR. KHTK "also cut a number of staffers to part time during budget cutting."
2008 (July): CBS announces plans to sell off all of its Sacramento holdings, including KHTK.
2009: Arbitron reports that ratings have dropped substantially, and that KCTC is eating KHTK's market share.
2009 (July): Kozimor takes over for the defunct, formerly syndicated Mike O"Meara show.
2010 (May): Kozimor fired, replaced by Don Geronimo. Kayte and others also victims of budget cuts.
2010 (August): Program Director laid off, "replaced" by having the PD for sibling CBS (country music) station KNCI cover.
2010 (October): Don Geronimo moves to CA.
2010 (November): Mike Lamb and the new Program Director, along with nameless others, are canned due to budget cuts. Grant Napear refers to this as KHTK's "Black Monday." The station's sales staff are reputedly unable to sell enough ads to fund the station. There are rumors that the sales manager is also replaced at this time.
 

bajaden

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#41
so then i wouldnt be to far off if i guessed that grants show is one of the LOWEST rated sports radio shows...in his time slot...in northern california. i mean if there are only 2 or 3 other options you can say he is top 3...but he's also the bottom 3
Sorry, I've been busy. I haven't seen a recent survey, but the last one I saw, Grant had the highest rated sports talk show in Northern California. That means his show was higher rated than the bay area shows. Now if anyone wants to say thats because he doesn't have good competition, that fine. But its also not his fault that they can't find someone else in all of northern california that can outdraw him. And I'll tell you why he's so highly rated. Its because he actually talks sports. He doesn't have stupid contests. He doesn't talk about the movie he saw last night or whose the hottest chicks in todays movies. He just talks sports. And for those of us that want a show thats all about sports, he's perfect. Doesn't mean I agree with him all the time.
 

bajaden

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#42
Link?

Ratings info is very hard to come by, unless one pays for it. Here's what I have for KHTK news and trends in general:

2002: KHTK is used as an example of an excellent sports station in an Arbitron paper. Almost 10% of its market demographic tune in regularly, for at least long enough to catch scores.
2008: F.P.Santangelo is canned due to budget cuts, moves to SF station KNBR. KHTK "also cut a number of staffers to part time during budget cutting."
2008 (July): CBS announces plans to sell off all of its Sacramento holdings, including KHTK.
2009: Arbitron reports that ratings have dropped substantially, and that KCTC is eating KHTK's market share.
2009 (July): Kozimor takes over for the defunct, formerly syndicated Mike O"Meara show.
2010 (May): Kozimor fired, replaced by Don Geronimo. Kayte and others also victims of budget cuts.
2010 (August): Program Director laid off, "replaced" by having the PD for sibling CBS (country music) station KNCI cover.
2010 (October): Don Geronimo moves to CA.
2010 (November): Mike Lamb and the new Program Director, along with nameless others, are canned due to budget cuts. Grant Napear refers to this as KHTK's "Black Monday." The station's sales staff are reputedly unable to sell enough ads to fund the station. There are rumors that the sales manager is also replaced at this time.
So other than that, everything is fine! :D
 

Warhawk

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#43
Link?

Ratings info is very hard to come by, unless one pays for it. Here's what I have for KHTK news and trends in general:

2002: KHTK is used as an example of an excellent sports station in an Arbitron paper. Almost 10% of its market demographic tune in regularly, for at least long enough to catch scores.
2008: F.P.Santangelo is canned due to budget cuts, moves to SF station KNBR. KHTK "also cut a number of staffers to part time during budget cutting."
2008 (July): CBS announces plans to sell off all of its Sacramento holdings, including KHTK.
2009: Arbitron reports that ratings have dropped substantially, and that KCTC is eating KHTK's market share.
2009 (July): Kozimor takes over for the defunct, formerly syndicated Mike O"Meara show.
2010 (May): Kozimor fired, replaced by Don Geronimo. Kayte and others also victims of budget cuts.
2010 (August): Program Director laid off, "replaced" by having the PD for sibling CBS (country music) station KNCI cover.
2010 (October): Don Geronimo moves to CA.
2010 (November): Mike Lamb and the new Program Director, along with nameless others, are canned due to budget cuts. Grant Napear refers to this as KHTK's "Black Monday." The station's sales staff are reputedly unable to sell enough ads to fund the station. There are rumors that the sales manager is also replaced at this time.
There are a few things you didn't include, such as FP was laid off not long after it was released that he was in the Mitchell report and was taking a beating from callers on the show, including many that wanted him gone because of it. They also subsequently hired Mark Kreidler for the morning show, which probably didn't come cheap - willing to bet he cost more than FP.
 
#44
I honestly wouldn't miss Grant. His constant towing of the company line and frequent strawman and ad hominem attacks on anyone who disagrees with him get old quick. I have a feeling The Maloofs will take The Kings and leave us Peaches, though.
 
#45
There are a few things you didn't include, such as FP was laid off not long after it was released that he was in the Mitchell report and was taking a beating from callers on the show, including many that wanted him gone because of it.
Words cannot express my revulsion at FP's words and behavior in regards to steroids during his time on the Rise Guys show (and before).

The guys ENTIRE background was predicated on being a HARD WORKER and succeeding through effort, not on born talent.
He trumpeted his efforts and him being a dedicated family man when it was all a front - a pack of lies designed to hide a typical jock ******* who had to cheat and lie.
I wonder how many honest, hard-working non-cheating guys did he steal playtime from during his career?
 

Mr. S£im Citrus

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#46
Sorry, I've been busy. I haven't seen a recent survey, but the last one I saw, Grant had the highest rated sports talk show in Northern California. That means his show was higher rated than the bay area shows. Now if anyone wants to say thats because he doesn't have good competition, that fine. But its also not his fault that they can't find someone else in all of northern california that can outdraw him. And I'll tell you why he's so highly rated. Its because he actually talks sports. He doesn't have stupid contests. He doesn't talk about the movie he saw last night or whose the hottest chicks in todays movies. He just talks sports. And for those of us that want a show thats all about sports, he's perfect. Doesn't mean I agree with him all the time.
Huh... Well, I guess, then, it's a good thing that I don't live in Northern California (or, alternatively, it's a good thing that I can listen to Tony Kornheiser's radio show via internet/podcast) because, speaking solely for myself, nothing makes me want to go on a killing spree faster than (ugh!) hardcore sports talk.

On most days, TK only spends about forty minutes out of a two hour show talking about sports. Which, given my own personal level of interest in sports, is just about perfect.
 
#48
Good riddance if Grant leaves. His bullying of Kings fans has gone on long enough. Fans need a fair voice of reason during years of losing and disappointment...not someone who repeatedly insults their intelligence, loyalty, and passion.
 
#49
I like Grant's show...I know when I tuned in, I know for a fact that I don't have to listen to people calling in with their idiotic trade ideal after one freaking bad game. He would eat those people alive...LOL.
 
#50
There are a few things you didn't include, such as FP was laid off not long after it was released that he was in the Mitchell report and was taking a beating from callers on the show, including many that wanted him gone because of it. They also subsequently hired Mark Kreidler for the morning show, which probably didn't come cheap - willing to bet he cost more than FP.
Ugh, I hated FP. He said a lot of things that disgusted me as a female listener. Such a pig. I was so offended by him that I quit listening to the rise guys until they canned him.
 
#51
If they let Grant go now, it'll be years too late as far as I'm concerned. I am still baffled by who MS&E keep and who they let go.

But it's probably moot anyway, as I'd expect they're shopping for buyers for the station.
The fact that the MaLoofs brought in that JERK Jim Grey and then inflicted upon us the Droning stupidity of Bill Walton shows that they care very little about what the fans want in the way of announcers. Grant is as good as anyone as an announcer, and the G-Man has a life outside of basketball. I think those 2 would be kept no matter where they go. But I am still holding out hope that this lousy economy keeps the Kings here in Sacktown!
 
#52
Has someone heard for sure that the Kings are moving? From the way everyone is talking, its a done deal. It's not a done deal until its in writing. Nothing is for sure yet. Everyone here sounds like they want the Kings to leave.
 

bajaden

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#53
Huh... Well, I guess, then, it's a good thing that I don't live in Northern California (or, alternatively, it's a good thing that I can listen to Tony Kornheiser's radio show via internet/podcast) because, speaking solely for myself, nothing makes me want to go on a killing spree faster than (ugh!) hardcore sports talk.

On most days, TK only spends about forty minutes out of a two hour show talking about sports. Which, given my own personal level of interest in sports, is just about perfect.
So if you have a show called sports talk, and the host talks about sports, it makes you want to go on a killing spree? What am I missing here?
 
#55
After next season, the Maloofs probably won’t select their TV broadcasters. Unlike their current deal, where they buy, control, and program the game – they are probably going to enter into a contact with Fox, who should have final call over the broadcasters. No shot, Fox uses Jerry. Questionable whether Grant would be selected for the Anaheim market – even if he survives the move, when some other people have contracts that come open, good shot Fox dumps him. Therefore, the notion that Grant control’s this decision is questionable.

Second, people are assuming KHTK survives post Kings leaving … but that’s a huge open question. 680 covers the Giants and 49ers better. 1320 and ESPN radio would cover the “national news” better. The way KHTK is already cutting back, can they operate a show based around the A’s and Raiders? That premise already flopped with 1050 in Oakland. Basically, they would be trying to run a local show in Sacramento, without covering any of the teams in town. They do that in some markets, but its pretty low budget stuff.

Thus, Grant probably isn’t sure whether he is going to have steady work there or here, and thus is making sure he keeps his options as open as possible.
 

Glenn

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#56
Jerry once said he would never leave Sacramento no matter where the Kings were. He said he would coach high school basketball if he had to. He could change his mind but really, folks, can you imagine Jerry moving to a big city?
 

Mr. S£im Citrus

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#57
So if you have a show called sports talk, and the host talks about sports, it makes you want to go on a killing spree?
It might, if I were forced to listen to it...

Seeing as how I'm not really a sports fan, by most objective standards (I am completely indifferent to every sport besides basketball, except for American football, which I actively hate), my tolerance for hardcore sports talk is about ten minutes. That's about all I can stand to listen to before I want to run an icepick through my own ears.

That's one of the reasons why I like Kornheiser so much: he never spends more than ten minutes talking about sports before changing the subject.