Grades v. Thunder 11/28/09
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TheFifthMookie
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bajaden
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To my mind the jury is still out on May, and he is young. I won't defend the Mason decision. So far, as Cruzy has said, he's the invisible warrior. You don't notice his presence on the floor, and you don't notice it in the boxscore. Otherwise, he pretty effective.
bajaden
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Put pickles on your big Mac, and trade out the green tea for a cervesa next time and things will look better to you. As a matter of fact. Have a supply of cervesa's and you wont' even care..
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AriesMar27
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Put pickles on your big Mac, and trade out the green tea for a cervesa next time and things will look better to you. As a matter of fact. Have a supply of cervesa's and you wont' even care..
nah, green tea is pretty much the only thing that i drink. that or water... if i go out i'll drink a few beers but normally i drink lots of water and green tea.
pickles on burgers are nasty, they are warm and wobbly.... gross...
Sergio's a month older than JT, and several months older than Brockman. Surely you can find better ammunition for your argument than to claim that he's too old to be starting.
kennadog
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Well, that wasn't my intent, so I worded it badly. But I see no reason to start Sergio over Evans. It benefits the future of this team to play Evans as much as possible. He'll be the better player by far, regardless of whether he ultimately ends up being a PG or SG.
Don't get me wrong, I'd like Sergio to get enough time for us to judge what he can contribute. We need a solid back-up PG and hopefully he's better than Beno.
If I am not wrong and common sense dictates, I think she was talking in terms of how long they've been in the NBA.
LA King Fan II
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Kevin Martin may be a good NBA scorer, but Garcia was probably the only other real NBA quality player on the team and...the KINGS will miss him.
A ton.
I almost called to cancel my free NBA preview on Directv.
A ton.
I almost called to cancel my free NBA preview on Directv.
Circa_1985_Fan
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The title of the above poll should be: 'Which KINGS Player Hurt Us The Most?'....
Chupacabra
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F-. No team should lose by double digits to bad teams. Not even other bad teams.
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Rubio A+ - We would have won with him.
Couldn't resist.
Couldn't resist.
Hey, who else could claim to have shot at least 27%, and not let their opponent go for 20+ points, a double-double, or both? Only Garcia, Thomas, Udrih, and Ricky Rubio.
kennadog
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10 points qualifies as double digits, too, even if not applicable to the point I know you were trying to make. I would have been okay with 10 points. OK is not a bad team. They are a few years ahead of us in rebuilding.
Not defending the Kings poor play, just musing about the reasoning.
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Chupacabra
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I do believe the Kings lost 102-89. Thats 13 points. Thats double digits.
I'm thinking that bad is when you lose to a lottery team and it never even seemed close.
its obviously
going to be a long season with a lot of ugly losses, but I think we have 3 things to look forward too. The continued development of JT, Reke and Omri. Within a couple of years that is going to be a very tough trio to contend with. Now if we can just find a rebounder/interior defender....
going to be a long season with a lot of ugly losses, but I think we have 3 things to look forward too. The continued development of JT, Reke and Omri. Within a couple of years that is going to be a very tough trio to contend with. Now if we can just find a rebounder/interior defender....
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AriesMar27
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thats because we are all waiting to say, "i told you so..." to someone else on this site. thats why we keep saying that we are right. onc ewe are we can say, "thats what ive been saying the entire time but you didnt want to listen..."
but fine, lets try something new... sean may isnt a center.... and not only does this team suck we totally lack the talent to compete against even bad nba teams. the thunder are just as bad as we are and we didnt stand a chance of winning that game from the opening tip off...
martin can score but he isnt good enough offensively to carry a team this bad. we need players that compliment each other. this is just a random collection of players that dont belong together.... they could all go to different teams and have very successful careers but just not together.
all of that after one game? well it doesnt take a whole day to recognize sunshine.
Kings Faithful
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I've been totally against trading players like Garcia, Hawes, and Martin... but I still don't see a direction with this team and as time goes by the more necessary I think trading them is going to be to get on track. We still seem to be missing...
1. A intimidating big man. (Al Jefferson, Tyson Chandler, Okafor, Nene)
2. A clutch high volume scorer/ (Carmelo Anthony, Danny Granger)
3. A play maker.
4. A defensive player.
We could be the only team in the league that is completely void of all 4 of those. Their is still a chance Thompson becomes a huge beast, and Hawes toughens up a little. Tyreke could become our unstoppable player possibly. That's pretty much the only direction I can see the FO banking on... but those are alot of "ifs". I can tell you right now what we see in Martin right now is all we are going to get. He could be very valuable to us in the long run, but its time to realize that he isn't Brandon Roy.
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M_Barragan
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lol OKC sucks as bad as we do???? I hope you are joking here. I love my Kings but no... we are not comparable to OKC... we had the worst record in the NBA for a reason we lack talent and have a weak frontcourt.
Green, Durant, Westbrook... Dude there is no comparison of talent level for the two teams.
As of right now the only good player we have is Martin and maybe tyreke if he learns to pass off penetration (they have to develope plays where he drives opposite side of our big in the key so he can leak passes to our post players if they leave their man to try and contest his shot) and also develops a midrange game (floater & pull up jumper).
This is a new coaching staff too... they have been toegther for what 2 months? You can't expect a pleathora of set plays and perfect execution so quickly. Will take sometime. This team will get better but it will take sometimes. Another pick or two and some movement in freeagency to address some of our weaknesses. The goodnews is we will have the capspace... the bad news is noone wants to play here lol...
Green, Durant, Westbrook... Dude there is no comparison of talent level for the two teams.
As of right now the only good player we have is Martin and maybe tyreke if he learns to pass off penetration (they have to develope plays where he drives opposite side of our big in the key so he can leak passes to our post players if they leave their man to try and contest his shot) and also develops a midrange game (floater & pull up jumper).
This is a new coaching staff too... they have been toegther for what 2 months? You can't expect a pleathora of set plays and perfect execution so quickly. Will take sometime. This team will get better but it will take sometimes. Another pick or two and some movement in freeagency to address some of our weaknesses. The goodnews is we will have the capspace... the bad news is noone wants to play here lol...
Must have been grading on a curve...
And anyone who thinks that the Thunder are just as bad as the Kings are have either never seen the Thunder play, or have never seen the Kings play.
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AriesMar27
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exactly... and thats why i made that martin/nocioni for tmac trade thread right after we drafted him. we dont have enough talent on this team to compete as is... i would trade thompson for amare.... i would trade hawes for the right player, we would have to get a center in return. i wonder if the grizz would trade thabeet for hawes? i wish we could trade nocioni, beno or garcia but thats not gonna happen....
we have no direction. just because we could do worse doesnt mean that petrie is the man for the job anymore... petrie has to pick who to keep and who to trade then make a move. if evans is our man, we have to trade martin. we need an upgrade in overall talent. we just dont have it.
the thunder have durant, he will be a star... he is young but he is better than every player on our team. yet he is the same age, height and size as greene. the level of talent isnt even close.
the bulls have rose, he will be a star... he is young but he is better than most of the players on our team. martin might be a bit better, they dont play the same position but martin is ranked higher as a sg than rose is as a pg.
the grizzlies have mayo, gay, gasol and thabeet... nuff said.... oh wait, they also have randolph and iverson....
the clippers had griffin but they are the clippers...
the warriors, like the clippers are cursed...
the twolves ahve jefferson, love, flynn and rubio is still overseas.... we dont compare to the level of talent of the other western conference non-playoff teams.
with the team that we have, when does anyone here see this team improving enough to make the playoffs in the west? after duncan and kobe retire? we wont be drafting the next lebron so i dont see how this is gonna happen with the players that we have on this team. a starting lineup of evans/martin/whoknows/thompson/hawes arent going to make the playoffs any time soon.
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M_Barragan
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I agree with you there Aries... This team has a collection of parts that just don't play well together. Tyreke will be better then Martin if he learns to shoot... Relying on If's tells you how bad we are hahaha. If the gods play nice and we get the 1st pick. John wall should go to PG and tyreke over to SG trade martin for a nice peace in the front court and we have a nucleus of talent. We can even play Martin at SF... and have a defensive switch of evans on their SF. He is what 225 pounds with a SF standing reach... strong enough to guard any SF but the King, Artest, and maybe Carmelo in the post.
Damn these if's...
Damn these if's...
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