Grades v. Raptors 01/29
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bozzwell said:
Well one of the things I keep on saying is that good defensive players = good team defense. Give Pop our guys and the Spurs are NOT a top defensive team (although he could get some mileage out of Ron). Give us the Spurs lineup, and all of a sudden we are. Defensive minded personnel play responsibly on that end, make the rotations out of instinct, have the height and athleticism to do something after the rotation is made. And you get enough of them together they can sense each other like a pack of wolves and inherently trust one another knowing that the other guys share their mentality.
Give Ron time, and I think our defense will get better even with no more changes, just because he is a leader and others will feel compelled to step it up. But we'll never be good defensively until we get him some more defensive minded running mates, and in particular some sort of interior defender to anchor things.
bozzwell
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Bricklayer said:
That is good enough for me. Just a glance at our roster then and now, supports your theory. Same as Detroit, their players were either always great defenders (Wallaces, Billups) or freaks of nature like Prince. And then it all rubbed off on Hamilton.
It will get ugly before it gets good for us though. At least around here. Ron's defensive intensity is making just about everyone else on the team look like they are not even trying. They were defending in spots (Brad blocked a key shot, KT's steal in crunch) but we should never allow Raptors to score 124 points on us in one game.
Kajun
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Bricklayer said:
You should use pts/possession (and eFG%, but there's no archive of that). And also bring offensive pts/possession for relative performance. That allows for better comparison.
98-99 99.9 -100.0 (-0.1)
99-00 101.9- 99.9 (+2.0)
00-01 103.3- 97.7 (+5.6)
01-02 106.8- 99.2 (+7.6)
02-03 103.4- 97.1 (+6.3)
03-04 107.7-102.9 (+4.8)
04-05 107.5-105.2 (+2.3)
05-06 106.6-108.3 (-1.7)
This more accurately shows that this and last season have been the worst (by far) as far as defense concerned. 00-01 and 02-03 seem the best as far as defense concerned.
Point differential is by far the worst this year as well, and that is reflected by our W/L record (point differential is predictor for the W/L record. Should this go on, a .450 record is predicted, or 37-45).
The point differential, when plotted, shows a parabolic curve; in other words, an ascend into a clear peak (01/02), from there on a descend again.
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Evenstar
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what a pathetic road trip. we played some really bad teams and still managed to BARELY win one game. very pee poor efforts! i'm very unhappy with this team right now.
tonight's loss, yah it was a heartbreaker, but ****, weren't we up 6 with hardly any time left?? and they managed to choke it away. it's breakdowns lke that that pee me off!
i'm in a hissy mood tonight, so some of this is venting.
just get it together kings, and do it fast!
tonight's loss, yah it was a heartbreaker, but ****, weren't we up 6 with hardly any time left?? and they managed to choke it away. it's breakdowns lke that that pee me off!
i'm in a hissy mood tonight, so some of this is venting.
just get it together kings, and do it fast!
love_them_kings
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piksi said:
are you quoting Adelman again?
kingsfan916
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WOW 43% oppenent shooting and 95 points and the Sacramento Kings WOW!Bricklayer said:
Bibby - B
Hot as usual but please stop shooting, Kings don't need a PG with 32 FGA and 3 ast. You have good teamates you know.
Artest - B+
Need to cut some one on one, other than that great game
KT - B-
Usual good O bad D game, TO is killing. someone please buy him a coffee before game.
KMart - A-
Great game but forcing too much in the 2nd half, if he can play under control we may not need Wells.
Miller - c+
Can finish around the basket to save his life on O, can't guard anyone either. Reason getting c+ are reb and passing. Kings need a new trainer to improve his vertical from 4" to 6".
Garcia - B
0 OT alone is worth a B, like Kmart need to play under control.
Reef - B-
Good D overall, in position to rebound, but ball don't bound his way and Kmart steal at least a couple from him. Need to improve D rotation and make yourself visible to your team mate when they drive in. There is a few time you can get easy lay up if Bibby/Artest can see you under the basket.
AR - do you have anything else other than Bibby/Miller pick and roll?
Hot as usual but please stop shooting, Kings don't need a PG with 32 FGA and 3 ast. You have good teamates you know.
Artest - B+
Need to cut some one on one, other than that great game
KT - B-
Usual good O bad D game, TO is killing. someone please buy him a coffee before game.
KMart - A-
Great game but forcing too much in the 2nd half, if he can play under control we may not need Wells.
Miller - c+
Can finish around the basket to save his life on O, can't guard anyone either. Reason getting c+ are reb and passing. Kings need a new trainer to improve his vertical from 4" to 6".
Garcia - B
0 OT alone is worth a B, like Kmart need to play under control.
Reef - B-
Good D overall, in position to rebound, but ball don't bound his way and Kmart steal at least a couple from him. Need to improve D rotation and make yourself visible to your team mate when they drive in. There is a few time you can get easy lay up if Bibby/Artest can see you under the basket.
AR - do you have anything else other than Bibby/Miller pick and roll?
SacTownKid
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Rick, Rick, Rick, Rick. PLAY YOUR BENCH!!!!!!!! For the health of our starter!
SacTownKid
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Bricklayer said:
I agree with your last statement. I think Ron can bring some defense out of his teammates. Defense, once again, also comes down to buying into it, confidence, and chemistry. None of our guys trust eachother of defense. They have to learn to trust one another, and give the EFFORT on defense to gain that trust.
I do agree however that we need some sort of beef in the paint. I watched Etan Thomas play the other night and I just wish we could get a guy like that. We had one last year in Ostertag. We all know the story to that one, but the fact is, the game changed when he was on the court. Nobody was coming into the lane uncontested. He at least made them work for those layups!
SacTownKid
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Kings113 said:
Well, I don't remember hearing about making moves specifically, but I do remember hearing that Artest wanted to make sure they weren't packing it in for the season. Whether that involves trades or not, I don't know. Did you hear those exact words? I have noticed Geoff Petrie is watching these last couple of games, maybe planning for something? We'll see I guess.
Ryle
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Folsom Al said:... my point was this: they came back after being down by 11 points in the 4th quarter by playing with ALOT of energy and intensity .... where the heck was that energy and intensity the REST OF THE GAME ???
Then they had a 6 point lead in OT with 2 plus minutes left and threw it away !!!
TO's - is what hurt the King's tonite .... they out-played Toronto in every other facet of the game.
Mistakes - errors - oops .... can't score if you don't have the ball
I wouldn't say it was just turnovers......it was the STUPID LAZY TURNOVERS!!! Bouncing the ball off your foot, etc.....
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