[Grades] Grades v. Heat and Three Guys Who Had Money on the Game 11/1/2016

[swisshh]

No words. Not sure I can invest in the league anymore at this point. Seen too much of this.

The line on the game being covered likely had a drastic probability change between the time Whiteside re-entered with five fouls and the time Cousins went out with six. Once Rudy missed that three, the probably shot up a ton.

 

[KingsFanGER]

Justise is going to be good in another year or two. Dragic seems to be having a bounce back year. Hassan is, well, Hassan, that is to say he's a shot blocking rebounding monster with questionable basketball IQ and the footwork of a guy with concrete shoes.

With all that said though, the main thing is that they've had years under Spo and before that Pat to really get their system and team concepts down. Guys like Haslem have been working in the same system for a decade. I'm not so sure about the talent but from a team standpoint they're miles ahead.

Coaching and being part of a great organisation sure plays a huge part and it's extremely difficult to judge individual talent in a team sport. Cousins is clearly ahead of all of the guys in a Miami uniform in terms of talent. But let's not act like Tyler Johnso, Josh Richardson, Dragic, Winslow, Waiters and Whiteside aren't talented. Miami is guard heavy, mobile and has the athletic bigs to be a threat to most teams. We on the other hand still have somewhat questionable guard lineups and versus a team like Miami every missed shot or no call for Cousins is a sure fire transition opportunity for their guards and wings.

 

[Chupacabra]

I couldnt help but notice how each team reacted to guard penetration. The heat didnt seem to have a problem covering shooters when we got into the lane. On the flip side we were always leaving at least one heat player wide open any time the heat got into the lane.

 

[KingMilz]

I couldnt help but notice how each team reacted to guard penetration. The heat didnt seem to have a problem covering shooters when we got into the lane. On the flip side we were always leaving at least one heat player wide open any time the heat got into the lane.

Aside from Temple/DC no one on this team is capable of guarding anyone with a explosive first step and as I said before as awful as Waiters is he's legit elite at least at getting to the rim as are Dragic/Johnson and to a lesser extent James Johnson/Winslow the Heat are not a easy team to cover at all.

 

[dude12]

Ask yourself this question. If cousins doesn't grab the left shoulder of the defender with his left hand does he still get to the basket with ease?


I didn't watch the other calls. They were probably crap but having watched the last one over and over and looking at the angle of the ref that called it I don't think it was a bad call. A frustrating call to be sure but he grabbed the shoulder of the defender and pulled him out of the way right to the basket.



I know I will catch hell for this but I don't think it was a bad call. You can bang, you can push and you can clear out with your elbow, you are alost never allowed to grab the guy by the shoulder and throw him out your way.

Commence the Kingsfans angry mob.....

Your Jazzness is showing.

 

[parker]

Ask yourself this question. If cousins doesn't grab the left shoulder of the defender with his left hand does he still get to the basket with ease?

I didn't watch the other calls. They were probably crap but having watched the last one over and over and looking at the angle of the ref that called it I don't think it was a bad call. A frustrating call to be sure but he grabbed the shoulder of the defender and pulled him out of the way right to the basket.



I know I will catch hell for this but I don't think it was a bad call. You can bang, you can push and you can clear out with your elbow, you are alost never allowed to grab the guy by the shoulder and throw him out your way.

Commence the Kingsfans angry mob.....

The foul comes before the hand grab. As cousins makes his move, Whiteside body checks him.

 

[Hoovtrain]

Also noticed WCS did not play. Now it did seem this may have been dictated my the Heat lineup (but KK got 25 min) , but for a guy that is supposed to be versatile and defend benefits positions, I think this more of an indictment of his continued poor play. If I recall, after his less than stellar stretch in ATL, he didn't get much PT after that either. Very disappointing to say the least.

 

[jcwkings]

Apparently Farmar is with the team and roster spot opens up vs Orlando. We can use his outside shooting and he can initiate offense better than Temple.

 

[ppine]

Sorry but there is an elephant in the room that no one wants to talk about. Cousins with all of his theatrics, arm waving, scowling, questioning calls, arguing, and animated behavior cost the Kings the game. Referees by the time they get to the NBA level have seen it all. They know the importance of controlling the game. They don't want it to get too physical. Some refs like the 3 last night, get tired of players like Cousins, so they sent him clear messages several times to just shut and play. He fell into the trap and just got more emotional. That is precisely why there were some close calls that all went against the Kings and caused Cousins to foul out. It was not bad officiating. It was very clear officiating to send a message that Cousins never figured out.

 

[Blob]

I hate to blame refs but That was absolutely egregious ! Just a disgusting display of officiating on MULTIPLE plays. Screw those guys

The last foul was crap, Whiteside reached, Cuz got the step, Whiteside tries to recover by two arm riding Cuz to the rim, Cuz naturally lifts arm slightly to keep Whitesdie(who is fouling) at bay.

The walk by Whiteside was so freaking obvious I was calling it from my couch long before Grant and Jerry piped up about it being traveling. The refs were making the calls for Whiteside like he was an Olympic Gold medalist and an All Star instead of going up against one.
Horrible job by the Refs and the video will show it.

The play on which Boogie fouled out was a valid call. He drives the lane and takes his off hand and holds down Whiteside's arm. Its clear as a day on the replay. That's a foul every time! You can't do that! And fans either missed it or are bias with loss of objectivity if they think Boogie was wronged on that play.

On another play he was fighting for position in the post and it was getting very physical. He takes his left arm and wraps it around Whiteside to try to pin him. You can't do that either! And Boogie is naive to think the refs are going to allow him to get away with that. You can't combat the physicality of a defender by holding him like that.

I think Boogie got screwed when he got a hand on the ball, which should have been a jump ball. Instead the refs swallowed their whistle. Whiteside wrestled it loose and flipped it up for an and-one. Boogie had every right to be upset on that one in my opinion.

On another foul in the fourth quarter, Whiteside stumbled and Boogie held his ground. And the ball came loose. Whiteside recovered and went up again with a shot. You will notice Boogie dropped both of his arms below vertical to like 20 to 30 degrees. That's a foul! That's what Jason Thompson would do all the time then think he was playing good defense.

So that's 4 fouls and three were accurate. That's 75% accuracy by the refs. I don't recall the other two and have no inclination to review the tape. But I do know Boogie is 2nd in the NBA to FTs per game beyond Anthony Davis at 13.4 FTA per game. He shot 18 FTs last night.

He was throwing his arms in the air in disgust and lucky he didn't another technical and tossed from the game for showing up the refs. He allowed his frustration to carryover and fumbled away an easy entry pass then made NO effort to get back in transition defense. This was a costly potential four point swing, though he did score on the next possession.

4 games out of 5 Boogie has got into foul trouble and we are not going to make the playoffs if this continues. He's been great this season at 61% TS and great defense, with only true off-night vs. Hawks with their solid inside outside defensive duo of Howard and Millsap.

Boogie is NOT going to stop harping over perceived bad calls. To think its going to happen now is wishful thinking.

But I think what would be instructive, as I've said in years past, is for a coach to pull him aside, and review the tape, and say "look this is what the ref saw, and this is why he blew his whistle". I would hope Boogie would be receptive to a little constructive criticism once his emotions have cooled.

 

[ESP47]

Sorry but there is an elephant in the room that no one wants to talk about. Cousins with all of his theatrics, arm waving, scowling, questioning calls, arguing, and animated behavior cost the Kings the game. Referees by the time they get to the NBA level have seen it all. They know the importance of controlling the game. They don't want it to get too physical. Some refs like the 3 last night, get tired of players like Cousins, so they sent him clear messages several times to just shut and play. He fell into the trap and just got more emotional. That is precisely why there were some close calls that all went against the Kings and caused Cousins to foul out. It was not bad officiating. It was very clear officiating to send a message that Cousins never figured out.

If they are tired of his act then T him up and kick him out of the game but calling fouls on him when they are obvious non fouls is wrong. Favoritism has never been addressed with NBA referees and it should be. The game should be called fairly for everyone. I don't care if you're Mateen or Kobe, everyone should have to play by the same rules. For whatever reason the NBA allows their referees to play favorites with players and give those players and teams an advantage. If this was done as blatantly in the NFL, there would be a huge kick back on it but since it's the NBA, people just gloss over it. Christie said it himself on the post game that if he was guarding Mike Peplowski or something, he could actually play defense on him but if he was guarding Kobe he knew he was going to get whistled any time he touched him. It's ridiculous. The refs aren't there to decide who wins the game based on who they like better. They're there to enforce the rules as they're written and that's it.

I'm just as annoyed with Cousins' antics as everyone else is but he doesn't deserve special treatment or the treatment he got last night just because he's a talented player that's an irritant to everyone around him. These guys need to just call the game the way it's supposed to be called and quit trying to make the game about them.

 

[kingsboi]

The play on which Boogie fouled out was a valid call. He drives the lane and takes his off hand and holds down Whiteside's arm. Its clear as a day on the replay. That's a foul every time! You can't do that! And fans either missed it or are bias with loss of objectivity if they think Boogie was wronged on that play.

On another play he was fighting for position in the post and it was getting very physical. He takes his left arm and wraps it around Whiteside to try to pin him. You can't do that either! And Boogie is naive to think the refs are going to allow him to get away with that. You can't combat the physicality of a defender by holding him like that.

I think Boogie got screwed when he got a hand on the ball, which should have been a jump ball. Instead the refs swallowed their whistle. Whiteside wrestled it loose and flipped it up for an and-one. Boogie had every right to be upset on that one in my opinion.

On another foul in the fourth quarter, Whiteside stumbled and Boogie held his ground. And the ball came loose. Whiteside recovered and went up again with a shot. You will notice Boogie dropped both of his arms below vertical to like 20 to 30 degrees. That's a foul! That's what Jason Thompson would do all the time then think he was playing good defense.

So that's 4 fouls and three were accurate. That's 75% accuracy by the refs. I don't recall the other two and have no inclination to review the tape. But I do know Boogie is 2nd in the NBA to FTs per game beyond Anthony Davis at 13.4 FTA per game. He shot 18 FTs last night.

He was throwing his arms in the air in disgust and lucky he didn't another technical and tossed from the game for showing up the refs. He allowed his frustration to carryover and fumbled away an easy entry pass then made NO effort to get back in transition defense. This was a costly potential four point swing, though he did score on the next possession.

4 games out of 5 Boogie has got into foul trouble and we are not going to make the playoffs if this continues. He's been great this season at 61% TS and great defense, with only true off-night vs. Hawks with their solid inside outside defensive duo of Howard and Millsap.

Boogie is NOT going to stop harping over perceived bad calls. To think its going to happen now is wishful thinking.

But I think what would be instructive, as I've said in years past, is for a coach to pull him aside, and review the tape, and say "look this is what the ref saw, and this is why he blew his whistle". I would hope Boogie would be receptive to a little constructive criticism once his emotions have cooled.

Your whole post is spot on. I did specifically want to bold this sentence here. Boogie is not going to all of a sudden change his ways, this is what he has become and that needs to be accepted by all IMO. A new coach won't help him change his antics, sure...he can help channel it a bit better because he respects the new coach, but that's the best you can hope for.

 

[Hoovtrain]

The play on which Boogie fouled out was a valid call. He drives the lane and takes his off hand and holds down Whiteside's arm. Its clear as a day on the replay. That's a foul every time! You can't do that! And fans either missed it or are bias with loss of objectivity if they think Boogie was wronged on that play.

On another play he was fighting for position in the post and it was getting very physical. He takes his left arm and wraps it around Whiteside to try to pin him. You can't do that either! And Boogie is naive to think the refs are going to allow him to get away with that. You can't combat the physicality of a defender by holding him like that.

I think Boogie got screwed when he got a hand on the ball, which should have been a jump ball. Instead the refs swallowed their whistle. Whiteside wrestled it loose and flipped it up for an and-one. Boogie had every right to be upset on that one in my opinion.

On another foul in the fourth quarter, Whiteside stumbled and Boogie held his ground. And the ball came loose. Whiteside recovered and went up again with a shot. You will notice Boogie dropped both of his arms below vertical to like 20 to 30 degrees. That's a foul! That's what Jason Thompson would do all the time then think he was playing good defense.

So that's 4 fouls and three were accurate. That's 75% accuracy by the refs. I don't recall the other two and have no inclination to review the tape. But I do know Boogie is 2nd in the NBA to FTs per game beyond Anthony Davis at 13.4 FTA per game. He shot 18 FTs last night.

He was throwing his arms in the air in disgust and lucky he didn't another technical and tossed from the game for showing up the refs. He allowed his frustration to carryover and fumbled away an easy entry pass then made NO effort to get back in transition defense. This was a costly potential four point swing, though he did score on the next possession.

4 games out of 5 Boogie has got into foul trouble and we are not going to make the playoffs if this continues. He's been great this season at 61% TS and great defense, with only true off-night vs. Hawks with their solid inside outside defensive duo of Howard and Millsap.

Boogie is NOT going to stop harping over perceived bad calls. To think its going to happen now is wishful thinking.

But I think what would be instructive, as I've said in years past, is for a coach to pull him aside, and review the tape, and say "look this is what the ref saw, and this is why he blew his whistle". I would hope Boogie would be receptive to a little constructive criticism once his emotions have cooled.

Well I would say that Jerry, Grant, Ham, Christie, Koz, myself and countless others all disagree with your assessment of what constitutes/does not constitute fouls....and that is not just in real time..,it was after looking at replays over and over.

 

[dude12]

Just a clear agenda by those who just don't like Cousins for whatever reasons they have. They only see what they want to see to add fuel to their fire.

 

[KingsFanGER]

Sorry but there is an elephant in the room that no one wants to talk about. Cousins with all of his theatrics, arm waving, scowling, questioning calls, arguing, and animated behavior cost the Kings the game. Referees by the time they get to the NBA level have seen it all. They know the importance of controlling the game. They don't want it to get too physical. Some refs like the 3 last night, get tired of players like Cousins, so they sent him clear messages several times to just shut and play. He fell into the trap and just got more emotional. That is precisely why there were some close calls that all went against the Kings and caused Cousins to foul out. It was not bad officiating. It was very clear officiating to send a message that Cousins never figured out.

Sending messages is bad officiating. Getting tired of a particular player is extremely bad officiating to a point, where you don't do your job correctly. As a ref you have one job and one job only - to measure if the rules are violated or not on ONE particular play after the other. You are not the chaparone of any player or someone, who needs to show it's "my way or the highway".
You control the game by punishing players, who violate the rules. That's it.

 

[Blob]

Well I would say that Jerry, Grant, Ham, Christie, Koz, myself and countless others all disagree with your assessment of what constitutes/does not constitute fouls....and that is not just in real time..,it was after looking at replays over and over.

You watched the replays over and over? Well I kindly suggest watching them again! One, you can't grab a defenders arm on your way to the hoop. That's a fact! You can't wrap your arm around a post defender to try to secure post position. That's a fact! And you can't drop your arms into post players vertical space above him and expect not to be whistled for a foul. That's a fact!

Now you can contend that Whiteside was being physical and being aggressive. This is true.

But refs are NOT going to blow the whistle because a player is being physical and aggressive! There has to be an overt violation per the rules, and Boogie committed two violations on the offensive end and one on the defensive end clear as day. I have been very complimentary of Boogie this season, because he has been deserving of praise for his outstanding play. But I am impartial enough to see when his emotions cloud his objectivity, and same goes for fans and commentators who see what they want to see.

 

[ppine]

But referees are not robots and human nature enters in to their play calling. Many plays in the NBA can go either way or left as a no call depending on who is doing the officiating. If we can all agree that Cousins does not get the benefit of the doubt because of his reputation, then maybe something can be done about it. To continue to say its not fair and the refs need to be objective is a form of denial about the reality of playing in the NBA.

 

[Hoovtrain]

You watched the replays over and over? Well I kindly suggest watching them again! One, you can't grab a defenders arm on your way to the hoop. That's a fact! You can't wrap your arm around a post defender to try to secure post position. That's a fact! And you can't drop your arms into post players vertical space above him and expect not to be whistled for a foul. That's a fact!

Now you can contend that Whiteside was being physical and being aggressive. This is true.

But refs are NOT going to blow the whistle because a player is being physical and aggressive! There has to be an overt violation per the rules, and Boogie committed two violations on the offensive end and one on the defensive end clear as day. I have been very complimentary of Boogie this season, because he has been deserving of praise for his outstanding play. But I am impartial enough to see when his emotions cloud his objectivity, and same goes for fans and commentators who see what they want to see.

Nah I'm good...I've watched more times than I care to. I think the disconnect here is that you are not understanding what you are seeing or you are just seeing something that you want to see .
Also I am curious about your thoughts on hand checking?

 

[KingsFanGER]

But referees are not robots and human nature enters in to their play calling. Many plays in the NBA can go either way or left as a no call depending on who is doing the officiating. If we can all agree that Cousins does not get the benefit of the doubt because of his reputation, then maybe something can be done about it. To continue to say its not fair and the refs need to be objective is a form of denial about the reality of playing in the NBA.

Refs are no robots and I Do respect them for having the difficult task to judge certain incidents within a split second. every human makes mistakes and I am fine with that.
But you have talked about sending messages and getting tired of certain players. now that is something that isnt excused by being human. IT May be the reality of the NBA, but it still isnt the way it should work. Your main task as a ref is to be unbiased.

 

[jcwkings]

Just a clear agenda by those who just don't like Cousins for whatever reasons they have. They only see what they want to see to add fuel to their fire.

I ask you how much better would Cousins be if he stopped exploding and complaining after every single call and instead just focused on the game at hand? Yes the refs suck, but he is too good and too important for the team for him to constantly have his head on the official instead of the basketball game. Instead of using that time to yap at the refs he could use that time to talk to teammates. Complaining here and there is fine, most stars do it, but Cousins does at practically every stoppage of play.

 

[bajaden]

Sorry but there is an elephant in the room that no one wants to talk about. Cousins with all of his theatrics, arm waving, scowling, questioning calls, arguing, and animated behavior cost the Kings the game. Referees by the time they get to the NBA level have seen it all. They know the importance of controlling the game. They don't want it to get too physical. Some refs like the 3 last night, get tired of players like Cousins, so they sent him clear messages several times to just shut and play. He fell into the trap and just got more emotional. That is precisely why there were some close calls that all went against the Kings and caused Cousins to foul out. It was not bad officiating. It was very clear officiating to send a message that Cousins never figured out.

The very idea that ref's would make calls based on a players past antics, is not good reffing! I certainly understand how emotions can affect a ref as much as anyone else, but they shouldn't let that affect how they call a game. It was obvious to me from the get go, whether intentional, or subconsciously, that the ref's had it in for Cuz. I hoped it wouldn't affect the outcome of the game, but it did. That last call on Cuz, at that point in the game, and him with five fouls. was either a foul on Whiteside, or a non call. That one call ended up being the call that determined the outcome of the game. Ref's should never leave the impression that they, not the players, determined the outcome of a game. Period!!!!!!!!

 

[Blob]

Nah I'm good...I've watched more times than I care to. I think the disconnect here is that you are not understanding what you are seeing or you are just seeing something that you want to see .
Also I am curious about your thoughts on hand checking?

Ridiculous. I want the Kings to win and I wanted to Boogie to dominate Whiteside and abuse him like a red headed step child. But three of the four calls I am referencing, the refs were justified and correct in making the calls they did.

You can NOT blow the whistle for hand checking in the post. Hand checking crosses the line into a foul when you dislodge another player. When you push. It is so rudimentary to officiating. The rule is you cannot put two hands on a player. I believe they outlawed the forearm in the back too. So it is not really a matter of my thoughts or opinion. There are black and white rules. One hand is allowed in the post. Two hands: bad. Forearm into back: bad. Dislodging or pushing with one hand: bad. The bottom line is the ref is looking for instances in which a player violates another players right to have a space on the floor. This is fundamental to every foul call made. If you are holding another player or invading their vertical space when they are in the motion of their shot, you are violating their right to their space on the floor.

NO doubt it is hard to ref Boogie. Boogie may be the most physical player in the league. But if a ref is going to call a foul on his defender for simple hand check absent of pushing or dislodging then every play and every possession is foul!!! Obviously this isn't going to happen. And this is Boogie's problem. He thinks every call goes against him, and it KILLS his credibility. He shoots the second most free throws in the NBA. He is getting his fair share. There was one play in the game against Minnesota that drives home this point: Boogie made a post move on Towns. He got denied. He got the ball back and went up on second attempt and got the whistle. But he got mad at the baseline ref for NOT blowing the whistle. The half-court ref blew the whistle. This is terrible decorum. Just to emphasis, Boogie got the call!!! But he was set off by the fact that it was NOT made the closer ref to the play.

This reflexive and engrained obsession with feeling he is perpetually victimized is an egregious waste of energy and counterproductive to a successful season.

 

[bajaden]

But referees are not robots and human nature enters in to their play calling. Many plays in the NBA can go either way or left as a no call depending on who is doing the officiating. If we can all agree that Cousins does not get the benefit of the doubt because of his reputation, then maybe something can be done about it. To continue to say its not fair and the refs need to be objective is a form of denial about the reality of playing in the NBA.

There are ref's around the league with great reputations, Crawford being one of them. Ironically, some of the ref's with good rep's, are also known for having a short fuse. But they're equal opportunity ref's. It doesn't matter who the player is, and generally, most of them, like Crawford will give you fair warning in advance. It's one thing for a ref to start calling a game close if he thinks it getting a little to rough out there. And that's fine as long as it's done equally. But it's another thing to start calling a game close from the get go. I think we all agree that we want to see the players play, not the ref's blowing their whistles.

Having said all that, they have a tough job. I get that. Just don't show up with an agenda, or give the impression that you have one. I hardly ever criticize the ref's. But last nights game was disgraceful. The sad thing is, if McLemore, Barnes, Lawson, and Temple could have hit just 40%, hell, 35% of their shots, we would have won the game going away.

 

[Hoovtrain]

Ridiculous. I want the Kings to win and I wanted to Boogie to dominate Whiteside and abuse him like a red headed step child. But three of the four calls I am referencing, the refs were justified and correct in making the calls they did.

You can NOT blow the whistle for hand checking in the post. Hand checking crosses the line into a foul when you dislodge another player. When you push. It is so rudimentary to officiating. The rule is you cannot put two hands on a player. I believe they outlawed the forearm in the back too. So it is not really a matter of my thoughts or opinion. There are black and white rules. One hand is allowed in the post. Two hands: bad. Forearm into back: bad. Dislodging or pushing with one hand: bad. The bottom line is the ref is looking for instances in which a player violates another players right to have a space on the floor. This is fundamental to every foul call made. If you are holding another player or invading their vertical space when they are in the motion of their shot, you are violating their right to their space on the floor.

NO doubt it is hard to ref Boogie. Boogie may be the most physical player in the league. But if a ref is going to call a foul on his defender for simple hand check absent of pushing or dislodging then every play and every possession is foul!!! Obviously this isn't going to happen. And this is Boogie's problem. He thinks every call goes against him, and it KILLS his credibility. He shoots the second most free throws in the NBA. He is getting his fair share. There was one play in the game against Minnesota that drives home this point: Boogie made a post move on Towns. He got denied. He got the ball back and went up on second attempt and got the whistle. But he got mad at the baseline ref for NOT blowing the whistle. The half-court ref blew the whistle. This is terrible decorum. Just to emphasis, Boogie got the call!!! But he was set off by the fact that it was NOT made the closer ref to the play.

This reflexive and engrained obsession with feeling he is perpetually victimized is an egregious waste of energy and counterproductive to a successful season.

Well there you have it. You are clearly more well versed in the NBA rules than the likes of Doug Christie, Dave Joerger and Jerry Reynolds

 

[Blob]

The very idea that ref's would make calls based on a players past antics, is not good reffing! I certainly understand how emotions can affect a ref as much as anyone else, but they shouldn't let that affect how they call a game. It was obvious to me from the get go, whether intentional, or subconsciously, that the ref's had it in for Cuz. I hoped it wouldn't affect the outcome of the game, but it did. That last call on Cuz, at that point in the game, and him with five fouls. was either a foul on Whiteside, or a non call. That one call ended up being the call that determined the outcome of the game. Ref's should never leave the impression that they, not the players, determined the outcome of a game. Period!!!!!!!!

What are you talking about? You cannot grab a defenders arm on your way to the rim. That's an offensive foul. Cousins had the ball in his right hand. He took his left hand and grabbed Whiteside's arm. You can't do that! Now you may want to say that Whiteside pushed Boogie off his driving lane....but that was not overt. The refs have to let some physicality go in a situation like that. What Cousins did with his left hand was an overt violation.

 

[Blob]

Well there you have it. You are clearly more well versed in the NBA rules than the likes of Doug Christie, Dave Joerger and Jerry Reynolds

That's the best you got? I rest my case.

 

[Hoovtrain]

That's the best you got? I rest my case.

It was the nicest way I could say you have no clue what you are talking about. Not really much more to say.

 

[Hoovtrain]

That's the best you got? I rest my case.

I'm also curious as to why you keep harping on Cousins left hand but fail to address the initial Whiteside right forearm into Cousins side that impeded his drive that initiated everything ?

 

[dude12]

I ask you how much better would Cousins be if he stopped exploding and complaining after every single call and instead just focused on the game at hand? Yes the refs suck, but he is too good and too important for the team for him to constantly have his head on the official instead of the basketball game. Instead of using that time to yap at the refs he could use that time to talk to teammates. Complaining here and there is fine, most stars do it, but Cousins does at practically every stoppage of play.

He's not going to change. He is what he is at this point. It's certainly not perfect. But he's,far from the reason the Kings continue to lose. It's a tired refrain. There are myriad reasons we lose games.

 

[KingsFanSince85]

I correctly predicted this BS response from usual train of Boogie naysayers. It's beyond weak. Worse yet, it's hypocritical. Blaming Cousins for his behaviour while not at all holding the officials responsible for their behaviour. Where's the criticism directed at them? After all, they should be held to a much higher standard than any player or coach.

They are a paid 3rd party that above all else is supposed to be objective, non-partisan and unbiased. Their job, while perhaps not easy, is simple. Enforce the rules. Whatever their personal feelings are toward any one specific player, the league cannot have overwhelming bias from their officials. It destroys the integrity of the game.

I get that a call here and there may go against a player due to reputation, however last night was way over-the-top and overwhelming. 6 fouls in 1 QTR -- 5 of which were highly questionable. And at least 4 were so blatantly bad that the only plausible call was on the other team. Whiteside traveled on 2 occasions, grabbed Boogie as he ran through the lane w/0 the ball on another occasion, and rode his hip to prevent him from getting by -- which caused Boogie's counter move -- on the last play. I can at least understand an argument for the last play being a non-call, but the others were 180 degrees wrong.

Again, I'm not surprised at all that some are making this about Cuz. That's what they do. That's their M.O. But, if it didn't already happen a long time ago, they are losing any credibility they had left by ignoring the officials role and, worse yet, not holding them to an even higher standard.