[Grades] Grades v. Clippers 1/17/15

After JT's big effort tonight...

  • I want to have JT's love child

    Votes: 2 4.7%
  • I already have had JT's love child

    Votes: 4 9.3%
  • He's still toast just as soon as PDA can make it happen

    Votes: 14 32.6%
  • He's a career King and will still be on the team long after we are all gone

    Votes: 12 27.9%
  • JT to NYC!

    Votes: 5 11.6%
  • Trade DMC!

    Votes: 6 14.0%

  • Total voters
    43
  • Poll closed .
JT has a beastly 20/20 game, upping his trade value. NY has made Bargnani available. Yáll do the NBA 3.0 math.

I think the NBA 3.0 math has been done sufficiently on this site for some time. From what I gather, these are the numbers.

NBA 3.0 is about:
Trading away superstar players for no reason.
Trading for really really bad contracts for no reason.
Making fans angry on purpose because nobody really wants them to come to games anyway.
Kicking puppies, because **** puppies.

NBA 3.0 is NOT about:
Investments in technology
Globalization
Deep community partnerships

But seriously, since just about everybody here feels the need to incessantly insult the front office, why not make up some sort of nifty nickname for your on-court concerns - say #vivekball or something - instead of co-opting and mis-using a phrase like NBA 3.0 that describes front office efforts that we really should all be behind and really have nothing to do with what you're actually upset about?
 
any way you cut it, slice it or eat it.....the Kings are incapable of winning if all three of Cousins, Gay and Collison are not playing at the same time. Agony....I'm glad I turned this off early, sigh of relief.
 
I'll throw this out there:

This game IMO proves without a reasonable doubt there is a conspiracy in the NBA to rig games.

Given the history (read: dislike) between these teams (especially the leaders of each team, Chris Paul and Demarcus) there should have been no reason for the Clippers to let off the gas and keep the Kings close in this game.
If the players actually were in charge, I believe the Clippers would have stepped on the Kings throat and embarrassed them by 40 points or so.

But they kept it close, let some Kings get theirs, "led" by Chris Paul's crappy shots.

Coincidentally, I heard the Kings had a (real-time) cross-marketing campaign with their Indian audience tonight, that would have been unsuccessful if it had been a blowout (as it should have been).
Similarly, the Kings fans are not in the mood to be blown out and would have been up in arms the same week the increase in STH news went out and the sales team is in full-on panic mode because of the blowbacks happening.

A blowout tonight simply would have been bad for business.
And whaddyaknow?
The Clippers kept it close (but not too close, ifyaknowwhatimean), even though it was absurdly apparent they could have blown the Kings off the court any time they wanted tonight.

How many times have you watched the movie Conspiracy? I'll say this, your imaginary world is interesting!
 
I hate losing to the Clippers, they aren't even that good.

Well, they're probably not good enough to win a championship, or even the Western Conference title, but they are holding on to the 6th spot in the playoffs right now, and were holding our crotch. So one could say they appear to be better than us. That doesn't make them classy though. I really can't comment on the game since it was blacked out in my area. Anyone know why Stauskas didn't play? My first thought is that a trade is coming. When a player that's been a part of the rotation suddenly doesn't play, and his name has been in rumors, I get suspicious. Hope not, I like Stauskas and think he'll be a very good player in a couple of years. Yeah, I know, its got to be tomorrow or he's worthless... By the way, when I say I hope not, it depends on who he might be traded for.
 
It was entertaining for awhile. I was really enjoying the physical play. Both teams really wanted it. But we are seriously undermanned and eventually it caught up.

I agree about the Clips classlessness. Blake barking at a fan who complained aftet Blake fell on him is rediculous.

Dude was a cameraman, doing his job. Watched the sequence a couple times, looks like he was balanced and just sat on the dude. He also got escorted out by security right after. Blake is an butthead.
 
Well, they're probably not good enough to win a championship, or even the Western Conference title, but they are holding on to the 6th spot in the playoffs right now, and were holding our crotch. So one could say they appear to be better than us. That doesn't make them classy though. I really can't comment on the game since it was blacked out in my area. Anyone know why Stauskas didn't play? My first thought is that a trade is coming. When a player that's been a part of the rotation suddenly doesn't play, and his name has been in rumors, I get suspicious. Hope not, I like Stauskas and think he'll be a very good player in a couple of years. Yeah, I know, its got to be tomorrow or he's worthless... By the way, when I say I hope not, it depends on who he might be traded for.

No idea. It seems like Corbin has featured Stauskas less in general, but the game logs don't seem to support that impression.

I was also wondering why we didn't play Quincy Miller more. He *looked* comfortable out there and showed signs of hustle. I was really hoping to see what he could do but we never got that chance.

That's at least one thing we have going for us as fans. I'm still holding out a dimming hope that this team will put together another decent win streak and fight back towards .500 but that will never happen if we can't trot out a full line-up.

I was suspicious of the Rudy injury and thought he was probably able to play but may have been held out as part of a tank job. My suspicious about the injury were confirmed at least... Hiding rudy was weird. Either a half-assed effort to throw the game or more Vivekian trickery. The day we see Fatboy Sim is the day we know the tank is on.

I'm almost ready to start looking forward to 2016...
 
I think the NBA 3.0 math has been done sufficiently on this site for some time. From what I gather, these are the numbers.

NBA 3.0 is about:
Trading away superstar players for no reason.
Trading for really really bad contracts for no reason.
Making fans angry on purpose because nobody really wants them to come to games anyway.
Kicking puppies, because **** puppies.

NBA 3.0 is NOT about:
Investments in technology
Globalization
Deep community partnerships

But seriously, since just about everybody here feels the need to incessantly insult the front office, why not make up some sort of nifty nickname for your on-court concerns - say #vivekball or something - instead of co-opting and mis-using a phrase like NBA 3.0 that describes front office efforts that we really should all be behind and really have nothing to do with what you're actually upset about?
I agree with this. NBA 3.0 is really not about all the things we complain about.

I'm going to discuss this with myself and get back to you.

I want to go with #weaselball, but I'll try to think of something nicer. Really, that's just unfair to weasels. ;)

I am in favor of the things NBA 3.0 is actually about.

And totally agree on the Rudy is hurt I mean out of town plot line. Just bizarre. Just say he's out of town. Stop fudging the truth.
 
I agree with this. NBA 3.0 is really not about all the things we complain about.
I'm going to discuss this with myself and get back to you.
I want to go with #weaselball, but I'll try to think of something nicer. Really, that's just unfair to weasels. ;)
I am in favor of the things NBA 3.0 is actually about.

And totally agree on the Rudy is hurt I mean out of town plot line. Just bizarre. Just say he's out of town. Stop fudging the truth.

This confirms my ongoing suspicion, dating back to last year, that not everything the FO says is true. AND, in this case, there was no reason to lie.
 
This confirms my ongoing suspicion, dating back to last year, that not everything the FO says is true. AND, in this case, there was no reason to lie.
Both could be true and it wouldn't be fudging the truth.
 
On a serious note I'm always willing to be skeptical and you could be right...
You're smart to be skeptical of this team AND this sport.
Last night was a dog and pony show, with outcome predefined so as to placate (not infuriate) the Kings fans and international Indian audience.
How many times have you watched the movie Conspiracy? I'll say this, your imaginary world is interesting!
Thanks!
Just trying to share a different viewpoint.
And I'm fine with my title being changed to "Active Conspiracy Theorist" ;)

Wanna hear another one?
The only way this tank job by the front office makes sense is if they know that this lottery pick is going to be a Top 3 one.
Wouldn't it be AMAZING if the Kings, after the impressive start to the season, somehow managed to lose enough games to keep their pick (instead of it going over to Chicago in the endless Omri for JJ Hickson trade) AND it improbably was selected in the Top 3 picks?
 
You're smart to be skeptical of this team AND this sport.
Last night was a dog and pony show, with outcome predefined so as to placate (not infuriate) the Kings fans and international Indian audience.

Thanks!
Just trying to share a different viewpoint.
And I'm fine with my title being changed to "Active Conspiracy Theorist" ;)

Wanna hear another one?
The only way this tank job by the front office makes sense is if they know that this lottery pick is going to be a Top 3 one.
Wouldn't it be AMAZING if the Kings, after the impressive start to the season, somehow managed to lose enough games to keep their pick (instead of it going over to Chicago in the endless Omri for JJ Hickson trade) AND it improbably was selected in the Top 3 picks?

Well, I mean, I certainly wouldn't mind if we wound up getting Karl Towns, WCS, or Mudiay our of this mess but that doesn't make me hate that it got to that point any less.
 
You're smart to be skeptical of this team AND this sport.
Last night was a dog and pony show, with outcome predefined so as to placate (not infuriate) the Kings fans and international Indian audience.

Thanks!
Just trying to share a different viewpoint.
And I'm fine with my title being changed to "Active Conspiracy Theorist" ;)

Wanna hear another one?
The only way this tank job by the front office makes sense is if they know that this lottery pick is going to be a Top 3 one.
Wouldn't it be AMAZING if the Kings, after the impressive start to the season, somehow managed to lose enough games to keep their pick (instead of it going over to Chicago in the endless Omri for JJ Hickson trade) AND it improbably was selected in the Top 3 picks?

Enough with the conspiracy racket already. Its a bad look.
 
You're smart to be skeptical of this team AND this sport.
Last night was a dog and pony show, with outcome predefined so as to placate (not infuriate) the Kings fans and international Indian audience.

Thanks!
Just trying to share a different viewpoint.
And I'm fine with my title being changed to "Active Conspiracy Theorist" ;)

Wanna hear another one?
The only way this tank job by the front office makes sense is if they know that this lottery pick is going to be a Top 3 one.
Wouldn't it be AMAZING if the Kings, after the impressive start to the season, somehow managed to lose enough games to keep their pick (instead of it going over to Chicago in the endless Omri for JJ Hickson trade) AND it improbably was selected in the Top 3 picks?


Sorry, don't buy your theories. Not even good reading. I think we're playing Portland one of these days, looking forward to the guys putting out a good effort.
 
But seriously, since just about everybody here feels the need to incessantly insult the front office, why not make up some sort of nifty nickname for your on-court concerns - say #vivekball or something - instead of co-opting and mis-using a phrase like NBA 3.0 that describes front office efforts that we really should all be behind and really have nothing to do with what you're actually upset about?

i tend to refer to it as "junkball," as do a few others around these parts. however, i do think it's fair to co-opt the "nba 3.0" phrase as a way of criticizing the new regime's efforts in building a winning team. while i'm as excited for the new arena as everybody else (for reasons that go far beyond the nba's presence in sacramento), and while i also appreciate the push to modernize and globalize the franchise, on-court performance is still where this ownership group and front office will always be judged most harshly...

for most of the kings' 30 years in sacramento, they've been managed and coached by incompetents. there was a glorious stretch of genius in the late-90's/early-00's; we could call it an-all-too-brief "golden age," but even that ended in catastrophe. so, if nba 3.0 is about everything except delivering a competitive product on the court, well, then that says something about the new regime's priorities...

personally, though, i don't view vivek ranadive as any kind of egoist or madman or saboteur who would intentionally squash his franchise's opportunity to build a winning team; i view him as a helplessly green owner who will eventually tire of being the butt of jokes and will eventually hire exceptional nba basketball minds to operate his franchise. unfortunately, because his actual experience with the inner-workings of the game of basketball barely extends past his daughter's high school team, i don't think that he knows what constitutes an exceptional nba basketball mind, at this point...

i believe vivek when he says that he prefers to surround himself with others who are smarter than himself, but again, in this particular field, i don't think he knows how to identify those "smarter than himself." more to the point, i think he was an 11th hour pick to front kevin johnson's proposed ownership group, and with little time and few resources at his disposal, i think he got stuck with very few viable options to fill both his general manager vacancy and his head coaching vacancy. it was simply not a good time to be looking for a gm and a head coach, and we were all so overwhelmed by the realization that the kings were staying in sacramento that i think we tend to forget just how dried-up the field was for those two positions...

i mean, hell, kings fans were tossing names like mike dunleavy around as vivek began conducting his gm search, so i don't really blame him for hiring pete d'allesandro to be his gm. and though i despised the move when it occurred, i don't even really blame vivek for bringing in chris mullin as an adviser, because of the prior familiarity that existed between them. and i was actually a fan of the michael malone hire, though i foresaw the very tension that eventually developed between malone and d'allesandro. that said, i do blame vivek for the malone firing, and i will blame vivek if the trust he's placed in PDA and mullin turns out to be as misguided as i believe it to be. if they're right and i'm wrong, i will gleefully sprint to the front of the line to eat my fair share of crow, but i'm not holding my breath for the on-court representation of "nba 3.0" to yield a winning culture, particularly given the needs of a roster that falls woefully short of the front office's prescribed "vision"...
 
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