Grades v. Clippers 02/20/10

What killed us the most tonight?

  • Not enough help for Reke

    Votes: 11 14.9%
  • More fugly FT shooting

    Votes: 3 4.1%
  • Lots of dumb turnovers

    Votes: 10 13.5%
  • Kaman beasting on our sad frontline

    Votes: 12 16.2%
  • Landry and Cisco looking like fish out of water

    Votes: 18 24.3%
  • Clippers three point shooters wearing cloaks of invisibility

    Votes: 20 27.0%

  • Total voters
    74
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Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#1
Well that was generally sucktastic.

So for a theme tonight why don't we do the annual Who Might We Draft in July theme, given that its likely to be high once again.


Boxscore

Casspi ( B- ) -- couple of nice early passes for assists. Airballed an open three easily set up by Reke, and then drained a much harder stepback jumper, go figure. Another side pop. Traveled inside, then another jumper. Missed a three up top again. Was our second leading scorer, but can't really say he played wingman to reke since the bulk of Casspi's push came in the early going while Reke came out flat and took a while to get it into gear. In the 3rd picked off an open court pass to break up a Clippers fastbreak. Followed a wild JT layup attempt with an o-board and layin. Drive into the paint for the nice little finish, and had some aggressive work on the d-boards. Had a bad pass turnover to start the 4th quarter, and for whatever reason his minutes were limited as he has no impact on the late going. The whatever reason may actually have been his defense, as Omri's stubborn streak seemed to come to the fore -- as in he stubbornly refused to guard anybody who ran out to the 3pt line. Still one of the few Kings who really helped in any aspect tonight, so while he gets no pass and has to clean that up, I'm not going to exaggerate it and totally tank his grade.
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John Wall (6'4" 195) PG -- and any draft prospects list just has to start with this phenom. Anybody who has watched me post for any length of time at all knows that I rarely gush. Not in my nature. But the first time I saw a mixtape of this guy a couple of years a back it had me gushing like a schoolgirl. I've been watching the NBA for 25 years now, and I had never seen a PG with such a combination of speed, handles, size, hops...it was just an awesome display. And of course he's gone on into college now and put it on display for the world. He's not perfect -- the jumper maybe needs work...unless its one he needs to hit (have I mentioend that he's bigtime clutch too?), he's better in the open court than halfcourt (of course with his blazing speed he is a one man break and makes everything the open court) -- but he's everybody's #1, and about as surefire a star as you are ever going to draft. Of course the difficulty is that he also plays the same position as our own phenom, who is only turning in the best rookie campaign since Lebron came out 6 years ago. In any case, its not something we will even have to worry about unless the basketball gods relent and let us get the #1 pick.

Landry ( D ) -- ouch. Not the way you want the debut to go, and of more concern than a poor performance in your first obviously unsettled game, was that many of his struggles really highlighted his biggest weakness -- he's tiny for a power player. Against a big Clippers frontline was constantly looking up at guys 4-6 inches taller than he was, and a number of his missed shots and travels were caused by him trying to compensate. Of course this is not his first pass through the league, and he does know how to comepnsate and be quite effective. But starting goto scorer in the post? Eh...we'll see. Actually got off to the good start, getting the interior pass from Casspi and finishing with the +1, then grabbing several d-boards. But it would be the last shot he hit unti the game was basically decided very late. Missed a side jumper. Traveled on the hard baseline move. Drew a foul on a post move, then missed both FTs. Very aggressive offensivley, but just looked very small tryign to force it through the trees. In the second, quick drive past Jordan but missed the FT. Another missed post move. Another attempt to drive by the much bigger man in Kaman, again resulted in a travel. Did make a nice crosscourt pass to Udoka in the corner before trying to drive through Jordan again and picking up another travel. In the thrid got an offensive reb and only 1 of the 2 FTs -- apparently this 84% FT shooter was infected by our FT woes rather than us taking after his normal steadiness. Given how poorly the post iso had gone against all the Clippers size, think we made a stragy change at halftime, and we largely quit feeding him inside in the third. Of course wihtout the ball, not able to do much. In the 4th, which has been his quarter this year, missed the post jumper over Kaman, then missed another along the baseline. Couldn't catch a post pass from Beno. Finally got another hoop with a dunk the 3:00 mark. and then added a pair of garbagetime hoops down the stretch to make it look semi-respectable. But it really wasn't. Far from the end of the world, far from determinative of anything, but just not a good debut. Probably glad he gets another chance to go at immediately tommorow against the crappy defense of the Suns (although that also means Amare).
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Evan Turner (6'7" 205lb) SG/SF -- college's stat king, Turner is a swingman who is threatening to average 20-10 for a season. He's sitting at 19.8pts 9.5rebs 5.8ast 1.9stl 0.8blk right now, and that is after missing half the season after taking a bad fall on a dunk and breaking two vertebrae in his back. As in ouch. His weaknesses are that he's not a great athlete, and that he does not have true NBA 3pt range. His strenghts...everything else. He's Mr. Intangible, Mr. Do It All. He can score inside and out, rebound, pass, handle, defend...6'7" 205 was Pippen's size BTW (of course 6'7" was also the height of a former do it all unatheltic SF of our own -- Lionel Simmons). It may seem odd given our obvious frontcourt needs to start this theme off with two guards, but there is a popular line of thought that Turner could be a great backcourt fit next to Reke -- two big below the rim do everything guards next to each other.

Thompson ( C ) -- hit the long facing jumper, then forced a fading side j. Got the steal on Kaman as we doubled him. Hit a jumper. Was effective defending Kaman as long as we kept the doubles coming, once the Clippers' threes broke that tactic, got worked. Flashed into the paint and hit a quick post move. Jumper on the kick from Reke. Strong start and looked confident, but picked up his third of the first half on a fairly weak battling in the post call, and had to leave. Was never the same therafter. In the third got beat for inside defensive rebounding position by Kaman. Then threw up a wild post airball over Caveman Wild finish attempt on the break, but the rebound was picked up by Casspi for the layin. Back in by the mid 4th, but other than a poke steal on Kaman down the stretch. He just played a Caveman punching bad for the second half and finished up with 9pts 7rebs ot Caveman's 22pts 16rebs (in fact Kaman got 16rebs in 35+min, Jason, Landry and Hawes COMBINED for 16rebs in 84+min).
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Demarcus Cousins (6'11" 270lb) C -- thought it was about time we get an actual big guy in here given our needs. And by big I mean BIG. Big ole physical pure center with good offensive skills and decent athleticism. As a frosh he's chewed up the college competition, averaging 16pts and 10rebs in only 22min a night of action by using the big body to establihs deep deep post position, and then just overwhelming weaker opponents. You plug him in the middle, and you just might have your physical post playing beast answer (you might or might not have your defensive answer, as he is imposing but not spry). Of course you might also have Benoit Benjamin (famous 80's Clippers hulking malingerer), as that is kind of the concern with Cousins. The brain, the motivation. Sometimes he appears sluggish and unmoitivated. Even Derrick Coleman's name gets tossed around sometimes, which if I was 6'11" and 270lbs would probably get me thrown in jail if somebody made that comparison to my face. A major bigman beast prospect...but depending upon who you ask, potentially a bust as well. Size with that talent does not come along often though, and he's looking like a Top 5 pick at this point. And yes, believe it or not that piddly little thing was the best mix I could find of him. You wonder why big kids don't want top play center anymore? Its because the 5'6" 135lb wannabes who make the mix tapes don't get excited by them the way they do a fellow flashy midget.

Garcia ( D ) -- bad performance, considerably worse that the stats alone, which were padded in the final couple of grbagetime minutes. Ineffective offensively, and got scorched on defense. And far from being an ernergetic do everything guy, looked sluggish and lacking energy. Mentioned in the Golden State game he doesn't look in great shape yet. Had his lone brihgt moment of the non-garbagetime to start, with a layup on the break. Then made a pure rustiness/unfamiliarity mistake running into Reke's driving lane and causing him to turn it over. Missed the long bailout three. Missed a three to open the third. Nowhere near Gordon as he lit us up. Started picking up fouls and eventually headed to the bench. Back in for the garbagetime, hit a three, then hit the meaningless end game dunk to make the final score 10. Garbagetime dunk to make it 10. When Westphal announced he was going to start Cisco a couple of days ago, I thought it reasonable. But not if he's really not ready to go. Plenty of other guys on our roster chomping at the bit for minutes -- no need to force things until Cisco can play like himself.
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Derrick Favors (6'10" 246lbs) PF -- a 6'9"/6'10" lanky athlete with dunk competition hops, coming out of high school some (since discredited) publications had even ranked him above Wall as a propsect. He exists somewhere along the McDyess/Amare (good!) to Stromile Swift (bad!!!) continuum -- the 6'9" uber athlete who can dunk all night, but needs to add some level of skill with it to meet his potential. He's very young for his class -- still 18 and won't turn 19 until July (so will be entering the NBA a full 9 months younger than Reke did, and you will remember Reke was the second youngest guy in the whole NBA this year), and still raw. But he plays both ends, projects as a shotblocker as well as a dunker, and you put he and Donte out there together and you have the longest, most athletic forward duo in the league. May have to wait a couple of years though to see the final product however, as the post game and jumper are still works in progess.
 
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Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#2
Evans ( B- ) -- yet another early carrying call to begin, and was having a little trouble overpowering Gordon early. In fact more than just seemed...I don't know, flat? Unsure? In some ways in the opening minutes it kind of reminded me the way he looked those first few games of the season before Kevin went down. Luckily he woke up, or we would have lost this by 30. Was back in to start the 2nd and missed the jumper. Then got out on the break and blew by Gordon for the layup. Picked up two quick fouls but we left him in and fortunately it never became a major problem. Began picking up the aggression with a drive in the open court to get fouled, but split the pair of FTs on what was to be one of his worst FT shooting nights (only hit 2-7). No more chatting with the President maybe -- seemed to have thrown him off. Penetrated and dumped to JT. Settled back for a three. Got out on the break and a nice dump to Hawes for a dunk, then next possession was back out on the break for the finish. Added another nifty drvie. Got clever at the end of the half throwing the ball up at the hoop for our final offensive play as the Clippers tried to use their foul to give. But again hit only 1 of 2. Came out of halftime looking a litle drumpy really -- was mad at himself for being jsut a step away from several steals, and I think generall y grumpy oabhout the way we wre playing again. And with everybody locked in a funk just began to take things over himself. A drive with the high hign bank off the glass just rolled off after lingering on the rim. Was followed by a near steal on the double against Kaman, but it rolled out of bounds. Incredible contortionist drive and finsih. Then another amazing drive +1. Missed the FT of course. Had another off balance drive of the pick and roll. Got called for a carry again. Hit a three to counter a three by Blake on Beno's defensive breakdown. Tiurnover driving into in the lane with no place to go. Nice drive and kick to Beno, but Beno bricked the three. Big rush drive to close the 3rd got us back within 9. Was looking noticeably winded by that point, but there was to be no rest with us clinging in the game and Reke being the only guy really going for us. I think caught up to him int eh 4th however. Bricked the long three when we were down 5, and a rare time when he was noticeably disgusted by himself. Bricked two FTs and again, threw his gum. Came up with the big drive, but a follow drive was then blocked by Jordan. Gordon was lighting us up in the 4th, and Reke switched over on him, but I think already being tired from trying to carry the team, the big minutes, and then being asked to cool the other team's hot poerimeter gun was just asking too much. Competed, but beat several times on strong drives. Fouled Gordon for the +1. Came back with a drive and got fouled, but of course missed the pair. And as we were slipping out of realistic range, finally pulled after 40+min for the final garbagey minutes. Just was not happening. Hope he eats his Wheaties and has some juice left to run with the Suns. Could really see him efforting out there in this one, but needed some help. From just anybody.
[yt=Ed Davis]GNlTbP3Npto[/yt]
Ed Davis (6'9" 215) PF -- PF prospect who people were higher on last year, before they had seen more. Has to stay close to the basket on offense, but might be too skinny right now to get much done with it at the NBA level. Just hasn't emerged as a goto offensive player at the college level. Real promise appears to be as a shotblocker/rebounder. Pretty good athlete, and could be on a good defensive roleplayer arc after he bulks up.

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Bench

Udrih ( C- ) -- hit on a cut on his first possession after entering, but got it smushed in his face by Jordan. Tried it again, and got the layup from the Hawes pass the second time. Scored on another cut courtesy of Udoka, as it was all cut cut cut, and mostly off the ball early. Poked a ball from Blake to create a turnover on the semi-break. Did not play well in third, racking up fouls, and losing Blake in the corner for a wide open thre. Missed the open three on the perfect kickout pass from Reke. In the 4th had a nice kickout
to Spencer on the pick and pop. Drove and blocked again at the 1:30 mark of the garbage minutes. Played a lot of minutes out there as the Cisco starting thing did not go well, but only marginally productive, and was one of several players of ours wondering around with furrowed brows.
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Greg Monroe (6'11" 240lbs) PF/C -- a name of some fear around these parts. Why you might ask? Well, how about because a very popular comparison for Monroe is Brad Miller. Skilled, saavy, unathletic. That mix by the way I think is one of my all time favorites as far as wildly inflating how good a player looks day to day. Very good passer for a big man, was a terrible rebounder his first year, but has really improved in that aspect, and it may not be a terrible weakness anymore. Can't elevate, which is probably going to limit him both as a post player and shotblocker. Like Brad though, can take his guy outside. Has lingering concerns about his passivity and passion for the game.

Greene ( D- ) -- in by midquarter of the first but neither productive nor involved. Picked up the defense somewhat for a while, but nothing of note there either. In the 2nd had a turnover on the wild drive. After half was back in and missed two threes as there was just absolutely nothing to recommend this one.
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Cole Aldrich (6'11" 250lbs) C -- grade A ugly...well, ok, maybe Big Country Reeves was grade A ugly, so Cole is more Grade B. In any case, if we draft him we may never be allowed on national television again for fear of shattering TV screens. Active center though, and one of those guys who is the anti-Spencer -- roughly the same size, another guy who apparently does not know how to spell "weights", but Aldridge is naturally aggressive and seems to like to bang and thrash. Has a hook and a fugly jumper, but not dominant offensively, and does not get off the ground well. But has long arms and challenges a lot of shots on defense, and does a good job on the glass. Doesn't have a guy like Tag's great size, but could end up being a good defensive roleplaying center.

Hawes ( C ) -- hit Beno on the cut, got a layup on the break after we nearly threw a ball away and it just rolled on by his feet. Missed the dunk on the break to close the first. Overpowerd by Craig Smith for the +1. Back in in the mid 2nd and helped on the pass again hitting Udoka for a layup. Overpowered in the post by Kaman. Was completely invisible on the glass. Dunk on the break off a Reke feed. In the 4th had a nice help block on Collins. Knocked down the jumper on the pick and pop from Beno. Offensive foul trying to post up sent him to the bench as JT returned. Had some moments with the pass (has started to almost look like decrepit Vlade in his final year, posting up looking to pass rather than score), the blocks, the finishes. But got pummeled on the glass and worked by Kaman and friends on defense. He was gravy sans the meat and potatoes.
[yt=Donatas Montiejunas]E37MBYJ-w7k[/yt]
Donatas Montiejunas (7'0" 215lbs) PF/C -- I list this guy here as a public service and because he is being mentioned as being somehwere in the Top 10-12 guys. In scary fashion, one draft site has his high end listed as Andrea Bargnani, which isn't what we need obviously. But ever since Dirk arrived, everybody has been looking for the next one, and this kid appears to be this year's version. Perhaps unusual in that he has good offensive skills both inside and out, and is not yet a true three point chucker. But has the standard young Euro big man problems with strength, rebounding, defense etc. Will this be the kid who gets over the hump and becomes the next Dirk rather than the next Tskitishvili? Can't tell you. Haven't really seen him play. But if we're picking around 10th, he could be one of the guys in the mix.
 
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Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#3
Dorsey ( INC ) -- very short debut stint that did not go well. Grabbed a rebound, got beat off the dribble by fellow stubby muscleman Craig Smith. Sat down.
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Al-Farouq Aminu (6'8" 210) SF -- why am I listing a SF for our team of all teams you may ask? Well simply because he's going to be taken by somebody in the Top 10. Highly doubt its us, but given his talent if he were sitting there at #10 and Solomon Alabi (project center expected to go later in the round) was tyhere, we would probably take Aminu just on talent alone. In any case, great athlete, attacks the rim, rebounds like crazy, loves to get out on the break. But has a shaky jumper, lacks polish, and of course plays a positon we have covered. Very covered. He is a lot like the guy I am adding next (below Udoka). P.S. Beware the language of the song over that mix.

Udoka ( C- ) -- in for a first half stint in which he was somewhat helping. Then made a couple of bad plays, and a boneheaded error to close the half that had Westphal throwing daggers at him with his eyes, and never returned. May in fact never have made the team plane and be lying in a ditch somewhere if Westphal's expression told the tale. In and immediately helped by hitting Beno on a cut. Then at the other end cut and took the hit from Hawes for the layup. Threw a bad inbounds pass for a turnover which was just a duh. Missed a layup with Kaman looming over him. Out of the timeout at the 3:00 mark turned it over just losing the dirbble on the drive. Canned the coren three with a couple of minutes to go in the half. Beat by Gordon for the closing layup of the half. And then...made an even more terrible inbounds pass than his other turnover, with 2 seconds left throwing it fullcourt from beneath our hoop for the turnover without it being touched. A coach's nightmare, and something you knew form Westphal's expression that he had specifically said don't do. Gave the Clips the ball back with a chance to score again just before half. Luckily thehy missed the wide open 8 footer along the baseline or we may have had a reverse Carlesimo/Sprewell thing going on out there. Was however banished to the doghouse, never to return.
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Wesley Johnson (6'7" 195) SF -- another jumping jack SF, again a good rebounder, again explosive to the rim. But adds in the luxury of having already developed his jumper out to the college three point line. Three years older than Aminu though, so Aminu may have more room to develop, while Johnson is one of those "older" (22) rooks who is probably closer to his max now. P.S. again beware the music in this mix and mute it if you are a sensitive soul. Cussing and dropping n-bombs is very cool you know.


Nocioni ( C ) -- in for the first time in the late 3rd and alternated trying to give us a lift, and trying to sink us. Got out on the break and took a pass from Casspi and then airballed the layup. In the early 4th missed the open three. Finally knocked a three down to get it back to 6. Some good defense as well on Collins. But then blown by by Gordon for the dunk +1. Scored on the tough drive, then a d-board. But got run over and beat by Gordon again, who should really treat his elders with more respect, and finished his night with another bricked three. I think maybe it says something about this night that a performance lie this would even be talked about as a possible boost.
[yt=Patrick Patterson]YlLf5TzDwFI[/yt]
Patrick Patterson (6'8" 223) PF -- I don't know about this one. It would be sorely disappointing this year to draft a Kentucky Wildcat, and have it turn out to be Patterson rather than Wall or Cousins. Just... solid. Slightly undersized. Not sure he's going to be much of a rebounder or defender. Has solid tools, willing to mix it up, but may be missing that dynamic oomph. There's no one thing he does exceptionally well. Interestingly draftexpress has listed as his highend: Carl Landry. :)


May ( INC ) -- in for the last 2 minutes of garbagetime and missed the jumper. Got fouled at the one minute mark, and split the pair.
[yt=Art Parakhouski]MdNAcCYmM1A[/yt]
Art Parakhouski (6'11" 260lbs) C -- I have never seen Art play, I just like the name, and I just had to include the most awesome mix tape of all time. He's averaging 20-10 at a small school, and he's on NBA radars because of it. Given his size, our willingness to take the small school leap with Kevin and Jason who knows. Currently he's projected out around #30, so if he slips a tad might be there when our 2nd round pick comes up.
 
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#6
That was the opposite of the type of performance that I predicted. Evans needs to develop an MJ complex and start ripping off some teammates' heads.

Edit: Cloaks of invisibility +1 !!!!
 
#10
The 2 times Casspi set on the bench, the Clippers run away, in the beginning of the 2nd half (as always we sucks in the 2nd half), and in the beginning on the 4th.

check out the +/-, correct me if I'm wrong...

Anyhow, I liked the starting 5. beside it, really bad game. damm it!

Are we going to reach 20 W this season or what ???????????
:mad::mad::mad:
 

Tetsujin

The Game Thread Dude
#12
Cisco was about as useful as a paper towel in a flood. If he's not ready, he shouldn't be starting. I'd rather see Donte starting at the two than see a 25% Cisco generally stay invisible.
 
#15
That's PW and his staff's problem, they have no clue what they're doing right now!
Well, this will be judged on how they adjust. I agree with the previous poster that Greene should be starting, but I am not going to blame PW for taking a chance on theory in a lottery season. Let's see how hist rotations evolve and hopefully incorporate Garcia's adjustment period.
 
#18
Just got back from the game. Took some pics of the KingsFans Southern Cali Chapter from my seat. Will upload later...


I'm not sure how it looked on TV, but Reke looked very tired, winded in the first half. He was bent forward, gasping for air a few times just in the 1st qtrand was totally out of it.

His stats still looked decent but thats just how good Reke is. He can just have flashes where he plays hard and would end up with 21 pts.

The problem that I see is Reke seems VERY frustrated with the team. I think the 30 pt loss is still bugging the heck out of him. Everytime his teammates turns the ball over, you see Reke throwing up his arms like "Not this again!!" type of demeanor. I think PW needs to talk to him about it being a top draft pick and landing on a rebuilding team.

Reke didn't seem like he could stay in front of Eric Gordon. EG played very well... he actually out played Reke tonight. Kaman was playing like an all star.

The other factor that did us in was every outside shot we took seemed to be a miss while Butler and a few other guys from the Clippers was knocking everything down.
 
#19
Just got back from the game. Took some pics of the KingsFans Southern Cali Chapter from my seat. Will upload later...


I'm not sure how it looked on TV, but Reke looked very tired, winded in the first half. He was bent forward, gasping for air a few times just in the 1st qtrand was totally out of it.

His stats still looked decent but thats just how good Reke is. He can just have flashes where he plays hard and would end up with 21 pts.

The problem that I see is Reke seems VERY frustrated with the team. I think the 30 pt loss is still bugging the heck out of him. Everytime his teammates turns the ball over, you see Reke throwing up his arms like "Not this again!!" type of demeanor. I think PW needs to talk to him about it being a top draft pick and landing on a rebuilding team.

Reke didn't seem like he could stay in front of Eric Gordon. EG played very well... he actually out played Reke tonight. Kaman was playing like an all star.

The other factor that did us in was every outside shot we took seemed to be a miss while Butler and a few other guys from the Clippers was knocking everything down.
I think the early season success tricked tyreke into thinking we werent rebuilding :p
 
#20
So for a theme tonight why don't we do the annual Who Might We Draft in July theme, given that its likely to be high once again.

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Awesome! Really excited to hear what you have to say!

I haven't really been doing my homework when it comes to the draft yet.
 

VF21

Super Moderator Emeritus
SME
#21
Unfortunately, tossing Cisco back in as a starter may have been the really wrong thing to do at this point in time. I think we need to just face the fact that our Kings are not going to be consistent right now. Too much has happened to erode any real kind of cohesiveness they may have had and it's going to take a while to get it back.
 
#23
Unfortunately, tossing Cisco back in as a starter may have been the really wrong thing to do at this point in time. I think we need to just face the fact that our Kings are not going to be consistent right now. Too much has happened to erode any real kind of cohesiveness they may have had and it's going to take a while to get it back.

I agree with this, we had 2/5ths of our starters tonight as essentially brand new guys on the floor with the team.

I know he played poorly tonight, but I'd really like to see Donte back as the starting Shooting Guard for a bit until Cisco is all the way back. Not only is there more cohesion that way but it almost completely assures the other team can't stick their SG on Tyreke like what happened tonight. I can't imagine they would have left Blake on Donte like they did with Cisco.
 
#24
while the frustration of losing is bugging the he** out of me, I realy don't mind PW having different lineups and no set patterns of who gets minnutes and who doesn't. Lets face it, we were never going to make the playoffs this year, even it we won 35 games this year (almost 20 more than last year) we will not be in the playoffs. We need to get over it and realize that PW is doing a great job of finding out what we have and what we need going into next season and the year after that. Two years from now the kings will be fighting for a top 1-4 seed in the west and this year will be a bad memory. The coaching staff needs to see what and who will be on this team beyond Evans, Casspi, Brockman, JT & Spenser. We are under the luxary tax, will still get a good or great draft pick next year, and be able to get some of the pieces to build for our run for the title in 2012 and beyond. PW and his staff have done a great job of getting all players that matter playing time. Be Patient & have faith. Realize this year has already been a success and we have a future to build upon, which is more than could be said last year at this time.
 
#25
While getting spanked sucks, draft pick, draft pick, draft pick.. I'll be po'd next season if we don't compete... for now, another great pick and maybe a major signing will set us up for the next 6-7 years.... lose all ya want guys, just keep the peace PW....
 
#26
Evans, Garcia, Casspi, Thompson, Hawes should be the starting 5 for the rest of the year.. I think all this switching around is playing with the kids heads. When you were 19-20 years old and you went from something good to something bad did it mess with your head a bit? I know it does to me..

Coach needs to tell those 5 he will start them for the rest of the season.. Get some friggin stability in here and let them grow together.
 
#27
bad overall performance by everyone. but they did make a run and got it down to 11 by the time i stopped watching but they never fully execute. here's hoping for another lottery pick
 
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while the frustration of losing is bugging the he** out of me, I realy don't mind PW having different lineups and no set patterns of who gets minnutes and who doesn't. Lets face it, we were never going to make the playoffs this year, even it we won 35 games this year (almost 20 more than last year) we will not be in the playoffs. We need to get over it and realize that PW is doing a great job of finding out what we have and what we need going into next season and the year after that. Two years from now the kings will be fighting for a top 1-4 seed in the west and this year will be a bad memory. The coaching staff needs to see what and who will be on this team beyond Evans, Casspi, Brockman, JT & Spenser. We are under the luxary tax, will still get a good or great draft pick next year, and be able to get some of the pieces to build for our run for the title in 2012 and beyond. PW and his staff have done a great job of getting all players that matter playing time. Be Patient & have faith. Realize this year has already been a success and we have a future to build upon, which is more than could be said last year at this time.
Agree with you. We often forget one man's short comings when another man starts. The truth - neither is the answer now. So Westphal really has a tough job. And the question still is which one should we put our money on and suffer through. If Donte was starting these last two games then i would wonder why Garcia wasn't starting. Same on down the roster. Evans should be frustrated because both he and his teammates need to step it up, improve, and do it together.
 
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You wonder why big kids don't want top play center anymore? Its because the 5'6" 135lb wannabes who make the mix tapes don't get excited by them the way they do a fellow flashy midget.
HAHA! Sooooo true!

BTW, no Cole Aldrich so far? Most sites have him in the top 10. Again, I haven't looked too much into the draft so there might be a very good reason why you are leaving him out.
 
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