Grades v. Clippers 01/06

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Bricklayer

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Peja ( B+ ) -- started off very aggressive (yes, I used that word) if not always effective. Was using the body for once down inside (was being guarded by 6'3" Cat Mobley), grabbing rebounds, and while he flubbed basically all of his layups, Serbian or otherwise, he was drawing fouls on the follow. Oddly kind of reduced to a supporting hustle player role with the Mike and Brad show taking center stage once again. Was having a lot of problems staying in front of Cat defenively, but that's not really any particular indictment of Peja. Cat has that nickname for a reason, and is 6" shorter than Peja. Also had a problem with that quickness on the other end, getting balls repeatedly poked away from behind in the lane. But this was that all too rare game for Peja -- the one where he really wasn't hot offensively, but yet still found a way to contribute with the big board night (beat his previous rebound high on the season by 5). Note: he started that wincing thing he does again in the second half, and whatever it was I wouldn't be surprised to see him out again next game.
Thomas ( D+ ) -- ineffective invisible first half. Early drew the unfair assignment of having to check 7'0" Chris Kaman for chunks of the first quarter, which did not go well. But did not matter who he was guarding, he was just off. No scoring. Not much rebounding. Some dumb mistakes. Got in foul trouble. Came out in the third more focused and had a burst of effective play before picking up his 4th foul and having to go to the bench midway through the quarter. Very few minutes in the second half as Skinner was playing well, and Kenny's 4th and 5th came on tough calls. Overall an imminently forgettable night, but opened the door for Skinner to show his stuff with that big body down the stretch.
Miller ( B ) -- was active offensively early and getting a variety of good looks. Causing the equally slowfooted Kaman (actually not true -- Kaman has amazingly quick feet for such a big guy) lots of problems and picking up right where he left off last game. Which was good, because it was ALL he was doing. 20pts 1reb 2ast in the first half? What is that? SF? OG? In any case, leading scorer in the half, and continues to amaze by somehow getting open looks with less athleticism than Jerry Reynolds. It was pretty much all first half though as the Clippers adjusted and Brad was largely eliminated until he reemerged in the last minute to play the hero, the goat, and then the hero once more in an adventuresome final 60 seconds. Got set up by Mike for the open jumper to put us up four, then got scored on easily by Brand. Then made a great ball fake on Cassel to abruptly free himself for a wide open gallop to the hoop. Instead pulled up at 12 feet and missed the completely wide open jumper to give the Clips the chance to tie. And then finished the sequence off with a little redemption by jumping out at Cassel on the Clips ensuing inbounds play to disrupt their attempt to tie it. 26pts = great. Mostly in the first half with no boardwork and 5 turnovers, not so much. But still one of the guys that won this one for us.
Martin ( A- ) -- got off to another dynamic start against this team. Was being guarded by noted non-defender Sam Cassel, and took advantage. But confidence and aggressiveness from the very start -- seems likely a carryover from the last Clipper game. Difference this time is that down in Clipperland he played a more wild game -- the game of an athletic kid having a breakout night. Tonight it was just smooth and professional. Just settled in and smoothly stroked jumpers. Yes, jumpers. And looked natural doing it. No hesitation, and all net. Made few mistakes, and still made a number of hustle plays tapping balls to other Kings. Slowed down in the second half, and eventually lost time to Jason Hart of all people, who finally gave us a game and was harassing the Clippers small guard lineups. Was not a part of the late game, but a very good smooth outing for Kevin nonetheless. Bet he wishes he could play the Clippers every night.
Bibby ( A ) -- very modest start, especially given the way he went off last game against this team. But after returning in the second quarter got very aggressive and was basically ushered to the hoop by the Clippers unique brand of "D". Scored about 10 pts in 3 minutes to give us the halftime lead. Maintained the aggressive play into the second half and turned in another top flight performance against the Clips. Clippers tried everything against him except for actually guarding him. Got into a little duel with the equally clutch Cassel down the stretch, but it was actually using all the attention he was drawing for a drive and kick to Brad that was the game winner. Drew three people to him and beat the Clippers with the pass. Like Martin, probably wishes he could play the Clippers every night. Be right up there with A.I., Kobe and LeBron.
Cisco ( C+ ) -- came in and immediately drew the all "lanky" (that's the kind word for skinny for those keeping score) matchup with Shaun Livingston, and held his own. Bothered Livingston with his length. Otherwise statistically modest and began to get loose again as the stint wore on. Did not get any minutes in the second half, but more because of circumstance and the number of other Kings feasting on the Clippers non-existent defense than because he had hurt us in his first half minutes.
Corliss ( B- ) -- got the first half rotation nod again at PF with Miller going the whole way basically. Could get little going offensively, but came up with a few hustle plays and tried to bang and make it hard on Brand. Eventually lost the second half minutes to Skinner, who was having himself a game. And with Brad and Peja going almost the whole way, just no minutes to be had.
Hart ( B+ ) -- in the first half the newly annointed Teflon Man (doesn't matter how much he sucks, the suck won't stick and he apparently cannot be knocked from the lineup) came into the game and actually had a postive impact to justify Rick's continuing, for lack of a better word, "confidence" in him. Got up in Cassel's grill defensively, and took relatively easy shots off of feeds from others rather than forcing spastic jumpers. And continued the solid, disurptive play in the second half. Actually stole Kevin's late minutes and was entrusted to play down the stretch of a tight game. :eek: Really cut down on the mistakes, and maybe as good of an outing as he has given us all year.
Skinner ( A- ) -- got a few minutes late in the first half with Thomas in foul trouble. Not sure why Rick did not go back to Corliss, who was decent. But maybe he wanted to try to get a "cooler" on Brand who was starting to come alive. And it worked out very well for us. Got back in early in the second half with Thomas in foul trouble, and made a real difference with his size and rebounding skills. Checked and disrupted Brand (with help from a lot of doubles), and then battled with Kaman and kept him from killing us on the glass. Generally banged and gave us that big physical guy we seriously lack. Did all you could ask of a banger, and just hope this isn't (but fear it is) a Tag situation, where despite the strong outing it will lead to nothing because of "matchups". As in we don't like to win them.

Adelman ( B+ ) -- Ah, curious times -- wasn't that long ago I would have been upset if we let this team hang within 10 of us through the first half at home, now we come out play them even through two quarters, and I'm thinking we're doing well. Clippers came out having made some defensive adjustments, and it mattered for about 3 possessions before it was right back into who would have the ball the last. Defense? What's that? Let the good teams stress the details, we're just going to run up and down the court and put up some numbers! Woot! Ridiculous stat of the game: in the second quarter, Kings outscored the Clippers 43-35. :eek: Rick shuffled through his bench this time and found all kinds of energy and hustle. And yet with the starters scoring with such ease, just was not time for all of them. Still got good bench stints from just about everybody, no matter the minutes. And when's the last time you heard that said about the Kings? May have been forced into his best coaching move of the night, finding and sticking with Skinner in light of Kenny's foul trouble. In fact even got wild and crazy and actually played 6'9" Brian Skinner, a natural PF, at PF there for a while alongside Brad! Man, what a risk taker. Had been routinely trying to hide Brad's defense from Kaman by making Kenny the minature PF try to check him. Not good, but that switch also worked better with the bigger Skinner in the game. In many ways, not much to talk about from a coaching perspective. This was all about the players coming to play with energy. If nothing else these last few weeks have shown that whatever has suppressed this team, it does not appear to have been the coach. He's still there, and yet some guys at least are doing their thing out there.
 
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Bibby...A...Played an excellent all-around game...Was out leader out there tonight, making big shots, passing, and just doing everything he could to help this team win.

Martin...A...Another very solid outing from Kevin! And he is starting to make a beliver out of me, as well...Did everything, 17/5/5...Very nice!

Peja...B+...
Not his best offensive game, but no blame whatsoever...Wasn't forced to be our cernterpoint of offense, which really helps us, IMHO, and also had a...Double-douuble?! With 13 rebounds?!!! And hustled!? Keep this up, and I'm off your back, Peja!

Thomas...D...
Couldn't get anything going in the first half...Then started to get something going, and got in foul trouble.

Miller...B-...Although he had another outstanding offensive game, his play against Kaman, and even more noticable, lack on the boards (3 rebounds? Thats awful) can't go without notice.

Hart...B+...
Did a nice imitation of a servicable backup...Will he keep it up? HE better, because this only makes his spot in the rotation more secure, and Ronnie Price's chances of cracking in are now next to notheing...

Garcia...C...
Came in...Did his usuall...Nice steal...Nice hustle...Bad shot...The usuall...

Skinner...A...
Was our only remote form of defense in there tonight, and that alone gets him his A...Also snared 7 rebounds, which is definatly great, especially considering the inability of our starting 4/5 players, who had a combined 7 rebounds.

Corliss...B...
The usuall first half sting from Corliss...Except he got some accomplished today...Played his usuall hard-nosed style, and it worked for him tonight.
 
SLAB said:
Bibby...A...Played an excellent all-around game...Was out leader out there tonight, making big shots, passing, and just doing everything he could to help this team win.

Martin...A...Another very solid outing from Kevin! And he is starting to make a beliver out of me, as well...Did everything, 17/5/5...Very nice!

Peja...B+...Not his best offensive game, but no blame whatsoever...Wasn't forced to be our cernterpoint of offense, which really helps us, IMHO, and also had a...Double-douuble?! With 13 rebounds?!!! And hustled!? Keep this up, and I'm off your back, Peja!

Thomas...D...Couldn't get anything going in the first half...Then started to get something going, and got in foul trouble.

Miller...B-...Although he had another outstanding offensive game, his play against Kaman, and even more noticable, lack on the boards (3 rebounds? Thats awful) can't go without notice.

Hart...B+...Did a nice imitation of a servicable backup...Will he keep it up? HE better, because this only makes his spot in the rotation more secure, and Ronnie Price's chances of cracking in are now next to notheing...

Garcia...C...Came in...Did his usuall...Nice steal...Nice hustle...Bad shot...The usuall...

Skinner...A...Was our only remote form of defense in there tonight, and that alone gets him his A...Also snared 7 rebounds, which is definatly great, especially considering the inability of our starting 4/5 players, who had a combined 7 rebounds.

Corliss...B...The usuall first half sting from Corliss...Except he got some accomplished today...Played his usuall hard-nosed style, and it worked for him tonight.
Good grades Slab, I'm starting to look foward to your early grades and analysis almost as much as Brick's.
 
KP said:
Good grades Slab, I'm starting to look foward to your early grades and analysis almost as much as Brick's.

Yeah, I like SLAB's grades as well! Very good and correct most of the time! Kepp it up SlAB!
 
I think Adelman Coached this game well, although I think Kennys 5th foul helped him out there. But overall he's using these guys well right now, and whatever he's saying to Kevin Martin... it's working.
 
KP said:
Good grades Slab, I'm starting to look foward to your early grades and analysis almost as much as Brick's.

Bballkingsrock said:
Yeah, I like SLAB's grades as well! Very good and correct most of the time! Kepp it up SlAB!

Thanks guys! I enjoy doing them!

And it help's pass the time until I get to read Bricky's grades, which is great!
 
Bricklayer said:
Martin ( A- ) -- got off to another dynamic start against this team. Was being guarded by noted non-defender Sam Cassel, and took advantage. But confidence and aggressiveness from the very start -- seems likely a carryover from the last Clipper game. Difference this time is that down in Clipperland he played a more wild game -- the game of an athletic kid having a breakout night. Tonight it was just smooth and professional. Just settled in and smoothly stroked humpers. Yes, jumpers. And looked natural doing it. No hesitation, and all net. Made few mistakes, and still made a number of hustle plays tapping balls to other Kings. Slowed down in the second half, and eventually lost time to Jason Hart of all people, who finally gave us a game and was harassing the Clippers small guard lineups. Was not a part of the late game, but a very good smooth outing for Kevin nonetheless. Bet he wishes he could play the Clippers every night.

Wha...!!!:eek:
 
there was a point right before kenny thomas got his fifth foul than skinner was taken out of the game. i have no idea why we did that.. he was doing a good job in there. other than that no complaints about adelman.
 
TXSactoFan said:
there was a point right before kenny thomas got his fifth foul than skinner was taken out of the game. i have no idea why we did that.. he was doing a good job in there. other than that no complaints about adelman.

Really? Must be the "matchup" problems. ;)
 
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Mr. S£im Citrus said:
Miller + Skinner > Miller + Thomas

That's all.
Totally! I've been saying that all year...but against certain teams...Miller, Skinner, Thomas, Peja, Bibby?? Worth a shot, I think.
 
Bricklayer said:
Miller ( B ) -- In any case, leading scorer in the half, and continues to amaze by somehow getting open looks with less athleticism than Jerry Reynolds.

Well, he's not doing much to get those open looks.

Teams are refusing to let Bibby win the game - and doing an outright awful job at it.

So - they continue to double on Bibby when he cuts into the lane and this leaves Miller open for a half. They seem to make adjustments at halftime and then Bibby goes nuts.

I just keep wondering when a team will finally realize that Miller is pretty dangerous when open from 15 feet.
 
Mr. S£im Citrus said:
Miller + Skinner > Miller + Thomas

That's all.

I've been screaming for the team to start Miller at the PF and Skinner at the center since Reef went down. Miller is so much better away from the basket and we need someone inside to do the dirty work. Of course Adelman is stingy and will continue to start Thomas and Miller even though that line-up is what get's us killed inside :(
 
Kevin Martin continues to impress. Here's an interesting stat:

Martin as a starter:
15.2 pts, 5.2 rpg, 3.0 apg, 1.5 spg, 52% FG%, 78% FT%, 39% 3P%

Bonzi as a starter:
15.1 pts, 7.6 rpg, 3.2 apg, 1.8 spg, 48% FG%, 67% FT%, 22% 3P%

I'm not saying Martin is better or as good as Bonzi, but the numbers don't lie, he's played very very well as a starter.
 
Bricklayer said:
Adelman ( B+ ) -- Ah, curious times -- wasn't that long ago I would have been upset if we let this team hang within 10 of us through the first half at home, now we come out play them even through two quarters, and I'm thinking we're doing well. Clippers came out having made some defensive adjustments, and it mattered for about 3 possessions before it was right back into who would have the ball the last. Defense? What's that? Let the good teams stress the details, we're just going to run up and down the court and put up some numbers! Woot! Ridiculous stat of the game: in the second quarter, Kings outscored the Clippers 43-35. :eek: Rick shuffled through his bench this time and found all kinds of energy and hustle. And yet with the starters scoring with such ease, just was not time for all of them. Still got good bench stints from just about everybody, no matter the minutes. And when's the last time you heard that said about the Kings? May have been forced into his best coaching move of the night, finding and sticking with Skinner in light of Kenny's foul trouble. In fact even got wild and crazy and actually played 6'9" Brian Skinner, a natural PF, at PF there for a while alongside Brad! Man, what a risk taker. Had been routinely trying to hide Brad's defense from Kaman by making Kenny the minature PF try to check him. Not good, but that switch also worked better with the bigger Skinner in the game. In many ways, not much to talk about from a coaching perspective. This was all about the players coming to play with energy. If nothing else these last few weeks have shown that whatever has suppressed this team, it does not appear to have been the coach. He's still there, and yet some guys at least are doing their thing out there.

And that's the true enigma right now, at least IMHO.

Let's see what happens when either or both of the two missing starters come back. Can they be reintegrated into the line-up effectively? OR will the Kings play better without them? As much as we love the idea of a low post threat on the court, will be SAR be better suited to coming off the bench? Could Bonzi be enough of a low post threat perhaps playing at the SF position? Does the image of Bonzi soaring in to steal rebounds warm our hearts but stifle other members of the team? Will there be a "TRADE" within the foreseeable future? Will Rick Adelman last out the year?

These are interesting times for Kings fans...

:D
 
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Bricklayer said:
Um...er...guess it was good I left out the comment about him losing his NBA virginity... :o :eek:

Tsk tsk, Brickie.

Please keep that gutter brain of yours out of the grades thread.
 
Martin is really starting to figure it out. He was so active on both sides of the ball, I think he's a real energizer. Brad and Mike are playing very efficiently right now and the offense is running smooth, but Martin has been zipping around on offense and creating extra posessions with hustle and athletic ability. Looks like we've really got a sg for the future.

nbrans, I was thinking about the same thing last night and what that means for Bonzi. I'd hate to just lose him for nothing, or have a situation where two guys feel like they should be starting and are more effective in the starting lineup. Then I realized that Bonzi could probably be just as effective as a small forward (if you know what I mean) and we could reconfigure our frontcourt depth to be built on physicality, toughness, rebounding and all that nice stuff. Let Bibby and Miller hit the pretty jumpshots, Martin and Wells can slash and get out in transition and the other bigs can do the dirty work.

But that's thinking too far into the future. What's important is that this team is starting to play some entertaining and exciting basketball.
 
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