[Grades] Grades v. Cavaliers 10/30/10

Kings Player of the Game?

  • Omri Casspi

    Votes: 76 83.5%
  • Carl Landry

    Votes: 1 1.1%
  • DeMarcus Cousins

    Votes: 3 3.3%
  • Tyreke Evans

    Votes: 7 7.7%
  • Samuel Dalembert

    Votes: 4 4.4%

  • Total voters
    91

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Whew!

If the fanbase seems a little diminished tonight, I think we may just have found out how many of us had heart conditions.

Official Boxscore

Casspi ( A- ) -- the sort of breakout performance that somebody needed to have at SF for us. Started slow, and had no stats at all in the early going -- as in 0pts 0rebs 0ast 0 everything in the latter half of the first quarter, and missed his only shot on another kickout for a corner three. But he was hustling from the beginning, and he did get a scramble play block. Finally hit his first three on a scramble play when Reke grabbed his own miss and kicked it out, and added another triple to help stem the bleeding late in the first half. But after half is when things got fun. Started raining three after three on those kickout passes, came up with a pair of huge steals up top, one of which led to a full court race and power dunk, and was back scrapping on the glass, and the floor for that matter. Made a great one handed save of a wild Head pass that eventually turned into another three point spalsh by Head himself, and made a great defensive play with 4 minutes to go stopping a 3 on 1fastbreak by deflecting the pass out of bounds. Was just causing absolute havoc with his hustle in the 4th. We end up with a minus here via the "warts on an A" theory, rather than the blownup B+ theory. The first half was not great, and of course the big thing was with the game on the line, with us clinging to a 3 pt lead with 7 seconds to go Omri was intentionally fouled, stepped to the line, and choked both FTs to leave the door open for the Cavs. So not perfect, with a large wart that could have cost us the game. Mostly a 2-dimensional three point bombing/hustling effort. But isn't that exactly the job descripyion Westphal has laid out? Knock down your open jumpers/threes, hustle and defend? Well Omri did all three tonight at a very high level. Now the question just becomes can he sustain?

Landry ( B ) -- now Carl is really testing my grading abilities here. 14pts 3rebs followed by 17pts 3rebs? First principle: a PF who does not rebound is a completely worthless pile of dung. Rebounding is their single biggest job description. Second principle: a PF who carries an offense for stretchs and rarely misses is rather more valuable than dung. What to do when these two principles collide? Carl knocked down two jumpers to start, but from the beginning was not doing much else and was being matched by Hickson, who was beating him with quickness. Got off to the good aggressive start to the third, finally attacking inside, and also smoothly knocked down a j off the Reke drive and kick. Helped steady us in the early 4th while Reke rested -- was basically functioning as our goto guy again, albeit in this case still mostly a goto jumpshooter, and just kept on hitting 18 footer after 18 footer. Only grabbed 3 rebs on the night, but picked a good time to come up with the third, grabbing a good strong board along the baseline at the 2:15 mark with us up 6 and trying to hold on. So what to do with the grade? By definition Carl was a completely worthless pile of dung, he stayed outside, shot jumpers, and got little doen inside on either end fo the court. And yet that completely worthless pile of dung played an important role steadily peppering away from midrange, and in the end outperformed his younger more athletic opponent. So...I'm going B here. Can't go any higher for someone who as outrebounded by Kevin Martin on the ngiht (Kevin had 4 tonight for the Rockets). But Carl still helped.

Cousins ( B ) -- the big guy keeps on looking a little more mature every game. Its not only talent, he's learning at an impressive game by game rate. Today's lesson: defense. Began the game with a nice power drive taking Varejao to the hoop, and then a careless foul of the type that Westphal hates, and that had been plaguing him. But just a few minutes later had a good defensive possession at the 8:30 mark, where he didn't accomplish anything, but twice on the possession threw his hands back to avoid picking up his 2nd foul. First real awareness he has shown of avoiding fouls, and I swear 2 games ago he would have hacked there. Strong after returning with a good defensive sequence repeatedly cutting off penetration, and then another nice drive. It still certainly wasn't a perfect half, and at the end of it he only had 6pts 2rebs, and began the third on the bench because we needed Dalembert to key our defense and rebounding. But after Daly did just that, Cousins came back in and picked up some of the thread. The rebounding picked up, he came up with a big steal up top and went galloping down to take the hard foul from Varejao, and calmly knocked the FTs down. Got the better of Varejao when Varejao tried to return the favor and steal the ball from him up top, so he drove the ball right by him for another big galloping flush. And if he wasn't ice in the clutch, he made enough plays, including a big defensive rebound and splitting two sets of intentional foul FTs, to help us limp home. Still not a brilliant game, and still learning, but the sophistication is growing right before our eyes, and an experienced crafty vet like Varejao didn't rattle him at all.

Udrih ( B ) -- this was truly a giveth and taketh game for Beno. Strong offensive start getting around the Cavs PGs easily and other than getting trapped and stripped at halfcourt on one play was scoring or setting people up at will. That was all good, as he was probably our best offensive weapon in an offensive first half. However this game was memorable for the very evident struggle we are going through trying to become a defensive minded team. And Beno, not surprisingly, was a main player in that. He was burning the Cavs guards, but his defense on said guards back the other way left something to be desired. Which is a classy way of saying he was getting absolutely roasted by a couple of guys (Sessions + Gibson) who won't be showing up on any lists of 20pt scorers anytime soon. They were blowing by him at will and killing us in the paint. So we tried to hide him off on Candace Parker's much older brother, but then Beno started getting overpowered down in the post. He was not alone as we allowed 67 first half points, but the ease with whcih his men were getting to the rim I think partially inspired Westphal's decision to start the second half with Dalembert back there to swat away the flies. May even have lost some of his second half minutes to Head because of the defensive woes, although that's nothing more than speculation -- played 18min before half, 15 after. Never scored a point after the break, instead concentrating onsetting up teammates on his way to an 11 assist night. And one of the great things about this game was the infectuous manner in which defense spread through us once it had germinated with Daly and Casspi. By crunchtime even Beno had caught it and came up with a great hustle blocked shot to save a basket at the 1:45 mark. So like Landry and his rebounding, we have another warty game here. Offense was good, but the defense was not just the normal little issue t can be with Beno, it was a huge issue. I'm still going to call this a B, but were offense not overrepresented in these grades...

Evans ( B- ) -- started off this one on a triple double pace. Had a spectacular spinning layup to start, and was making plays both on the defensive glass and defense. The improved jumper was occasionally on display as he splashed in two threes and another long jumper, but it continues to be a development of occasionally dubious value, since now he's inspired to settle for more of them, and its still anything but wet. Very aggressive from the getgo, but the story of this one would eventually become his struggle to finish inside again. It should be said that he has come back form the summer wiht some NASTY stuff that he didn't even have last year. Scoops, flips, little running hook things, finger roll type stuff, up and unders and spin moves, there is the threat of major brilliance with the stuff he has been trying. But there is a fine line between nasty stuff and garbage, and it often rests on the simple question of whether you can make that shot or not. And in his first couple of games he has not. The aggression, and effectiveness, reached a crescendo in the third quarter with him attacking the hoop hard almost every play for a long stretch, hitting shots, finding three point shooters, or drawing the foul. But the finishing struggle was always there, and there were a few sloppy moments as well as he twice fumbled away the ball for TOs and once even got an 8 second violation when we just mosied the ball up the court after 3 second had run off the clock on an abortive inbounds. I went back and forth on the grade here, and finally came back to a B- not only for the overall productivity, but because of my sense that Reke's presence had something to do with the great shooting from the rest of our lineup. Except for the jumper settling, which I never like from any player, he was attacking inside hard, finishes or no, and putting tremendous pressure on the Cavs defense, with the end result that guys like Casspi and Landry were hardly challenged on their bombs from outside. I can't go any higher for a 6-20 night, but we shot 52% frm the field and scored 107pts, and my gut tells me that Reke's role in that was critical as "star who attacks and draws all the attention" even while his own efficiency left something to be desired.
 
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Dalembert ( A- ) -- I will tolerate no ill words about this man right now. Another major player in our quest for defense, in fact really the lynchpin. Gave us some good early minutes, including a big help block to swat Hickson, and then a couple of entirely competent ofensive plays, workignthe pick and roll well with reke, and then coming up with a nice finsih on the break too. But the big thing was you could jsut feel the difference with him back there -- felt it in the last game of preseason with Whiteside too. The shotblocker just changes the whole tone of our defense, which otherwsie was quite hopeless in the first half. Impressive enough that in a desperate attempt to keep the Cavs from scoring 130 on us, we gave him the start over Cousins in the second half. That is an interesitng storyline BTW -- our big immensely talented kid had shown no ability at all as a lane stuffer, and yet we want to be a strong defensive team. And hence Daly got the start after after, and was a major factor in us setting a completely different tone defensively. Quickly came up with a big block on Hickson to trigger a break for us, and the rest of the guys seemed to feed off of it. Some more stout defense and rebounding to start the 4th. It was only a 4pt 5reb night, but it was one with a major impact and showed what an extra dimension we are going to have once we integrate the shotblcokers into the frontline...somehow.

Thompson ( B- ) -- still off the bench ahead of Jackson in the first half, and he and Dalembert together gave us a frontline of imposing size. And he had moments, both good and bad. He missed a jumper, then had a nice turnaroundn int he early second. Was aggressive on the offensive glass and helped with tips in the late 2nd, although some of them were his own misses. Missed the final jumper of the half. And statistically, he was 8pts 5rebs by halftime, and doing ok. But this was one of those interesting players with the defensive question. We got killed defensively in the first half. And Jason was out there for half of it (12+min). All but one of those rebounds were offensive, and despite overall good numbers, he still has several of those Jason moments of just...incompetence, missing things he should not miss, making fouls he should not make. And so in a surprising development a guy who put up 8pts 5rebs in 12min before half was benched after half and never saw the floor. Dalembert took some of his minutes, then so did Jackson, who had not even played before half. We've played three games so far, and been competing well throughout them, and you can just sense us really trying to move past the learnign and amateur mistakes (by anyone except our rook) and soft defense and find gys who are tough pros I guess you would say. Jason was kind of himself in that first half. Wasn't awful Jason, was just miss the chippee hustle for the o-board, hack a guy and not know it Jason. But tonight all of a sudden that wasn't deemed enough. Be interesting to see what happens next.

Cisco ( C ) -- came in and knocked down his first jumper as usual. But really had some really poor offensive possessions in the early second, at one point waiting most of the clock, missing an open Tyreke, and instead passing the ball to DeMarcus for a three. Then two possessions later quick shot and missed a three. The sort of dumb play that alas has always gone hand in hand with the inspired stuff with Cisco. His minutes ended up limited on the night with Reke/Beno and Casspi all going well, but after two nights of being a major player, what he was bringing tonight was easy enough to do without.

Head ( C+ ) -- worked with Casspi in odd ways. Went in amongst the trees, grabbed an o-board, and dribbled it out to Casspi for a three. Then tried to hit Casspi baseline with a laser, but missed, forcing him to make a great one handed save that eventually came back to Head for another three. Not how you draw them up, not exactly steady, but hey, it worked. May have gotten some extra minutes atfr half for defensive purposes agains the Cavs little guards who were carrying their scoring, but frankly saw him get beat several times as well.

Jackson ( B- ) -- in there in the third ahead of JT...and I guess that was about defense, although Darnell is certainly not a shotblocker to take away penetration by the little guards, and we were perhpas more overconcered about JJ Hickson than his 15pts 5rebs indicates we should have been. Initially it looked like a shaky substitution as we lost momentum, But late in the quarter got fouled off camera and hit the 2 FTs to finally give us the lead (the second one boucned all the way up off he top of the backboard befor efalling in). Then hit a long jumper to give us another lead going into the 4th.

Greene ( INC ) -- defensive personnel for Cavs final desperation shot(s)

Wright ( INC ) -- defesnive persionnel for Cavs final desperation shot(s)
 
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Casspi provided four quarters of amazing hustle and incredibly effective throughout. Of course, he missed two FTs that could have iced it but all that did IMO is maybe drop him a tick on final sparkling grade. I'm beginning to wonder if there's another single Kings player capable of such firery intensity for an entire game. Hopefully, such leading by example rubs off on a few other Kings (like Donte for example) because if I was stuck in a foxhole on the battlefield I'd definitely want Omri Casspi next to me.
 
I think Casspi will be a lock at the SF spot the rest of the year... He's proved to be the best 3pt option as well as the most consistent...

Great game all around from our young squad... And I can't wait to see a fully healthy sam d.
 
Casspi provided four quarters of amazing hustle and incredibly effective throughout. Of course, he missed two FTs that could have iced it but all that did IMO is maybe drop him a tick on final sparkling grade. I'm beginning to wonder if there's another single Kings player capable of such firery intensity for an entire game. Hopefully, such leading by example rubs off on a few other Kings (like Donte for example) because if I was stuck in a foxhole on the battlefield I'd definitely want Omri Casspi next to me.

^^What he said.
 
Of course this is a wildly early remark, but if Casspi can avoid the exhaustion he ran into last year, and hold together as consistently as he did for the first 3/5 of the season last year I think we may have a candidate for MIP. He's shown me enough that his shooting, rebounding, defense, and hustle are all not flukes.
 
Of course this is a wildly early remark, but if Casspi can avoid the exhaustion he ran into last year, and hold together as consistently as he did for the first 3/5 of the season last year I think we may have a candidate for MIP. He's shown me enough that his shooting, rebounding, defense, and hustle are all not flukes.

I totally agree!
 
I'd imagine we're still going to see some inconsistancy from him, as he is a young player... But I bet these flashes of brilliance are going to be more and more common. Casspi was a beast tonight. A lot of what he did didnt even show up in the boxscore either.
 
I almost want to say an A because they came back from 16 down. But the fact that they were 16 down to begin with and how ugly the last few minutes of the game were make it about a B-. Still a nice win though. If you'd have told me a week ago they'd have been 2 and 1 after this trip I would have thought it unlikely.
 
I'd imagine we're still going to see some inconsistancy from him, as he is a young player... But I bet these flashes of brilliance are going to be more and more common. Casspi was a beast tonight. A lot of what he did didnt even show up in the boxscore either.

Exactly, like that great save of the ball out of bounds that ended up with a Luther Head three pointer.
 
You have to be satisfied with the overall result of this road trip. It doesn't matter that all of these teams may finish with less than 30 wins. If your team is coming off of a 25 win season, and you start the season going 2-1 on the road, it bodes well for your season.

And honestly, with 10 of the next 13 games at home (and only two of those homes games do you think the Kings may lose - Lakers and Bulls), this team could theoretically start the season 11 and five.

And in a scheduling quirk, of their next 30 games, 21 of them are at home. We have a very realistic possibility of seeing this team start the season with a 21-12 record.

Of course, the schedule is absolutely brutal from Mid-January through the end of February, but still.....it would be great to see this young team get off to a great start and I'm nothing but encouraged by what I've seen the last three games.
 
I think Casspi will be a lock at the SF spot the rest of the year... He's proved to be the best 3pt option as well as the most consistent...

Great game all around from our young squad... And I can't wait to see a fully healthy sam d.

With all due respects to Casspi who has been playing very well, by FAR the best and most consistent 3pt option that we have is Garcia...by an absolute mile.
 
With all due respects to Casspi who has been playing very well, by FAR the best and most consistent 3pt option that we have is Garcia...by an absolute mile.

That.

No question about it imo..

I loved how Casspi hustled on D today, but i'm gonna be a little joy-breaker here and say I ain't buying it( Yet!).
He needs to proove he can shoot that consistently.. I mean he's a 180 degrees steaky shooter, when it goes everything is pink, sun is shining and the birds are singing.. but when it's bad he makes you wanna yell at him and tell him to go sit alone in the corner and never talk to you again. On defence I still don't like how he keeps loosing his man, how he just can't handle the picks, and how he gives his man almost a wide open shot fearing the penetration so much.
On offence, well you all know that he gets way over his head when he's given the nod of confidence, and starts going wild doing stuff that he can't do all of a sudden.

I mean the way I see it, most chances are he goes MIA the next game quite truthfully, from his game patterns so far.
If he manages to keep that shot consistent, it's all gonna be good, cause when he shoots the ball he becomes all happy and pumped up and it immidietly improove his all-around game.

So i'm gonna say very good job on this game and well done, but wait with any compliments I give Omri.

As for the rest, I loved what I say from Dalambert on D, what a great pick-up he is.

Landry and Beno are just so consistent shooters man, they're just money everytime they take thier midrange jumpers.. together with Cisco they're the best 3 players by a mile so far.

And I would love for Cousins to get more looks and shots overall in the game.... he's just a beast whenever we go for him on the post, either making plays for others or shooting.. I mean honestly I think the offence will run so good with Cousins controlling it from the post at times, with more slashing to the basket giving him passing options, or just letting him work downlow if the matchup is good.

Like today Varajao was just a beast guarding him really, but if Omri or someone else would just make a movement off the ball towards the basket they're gonna get a good look, too bad we're not even doing this at all in games.
 
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To see this level of play at the beginning of a season, on the road, with 3 new starters, one a rookie and 6 new players is nothing short of amazing. Last night Cisco, tonight Omri, Monday some else I suspect. We are finally seeing the possibilities. I like that.

A for Omri for 4 qtrs
B for the team
C- for coaching the last 3 minutes
 
Great game from Casspi & Carl. Reke and DC got theirs as well, Beno had a nice amount of assists. What's awesome to see is the balance, if we continue this throughout the year, we should have a lot of close games and many more W's.
 
To see this level of play at the beginning of a season, on the road, with 3 new starters, one a rookie and 6 new players is nothing short of amazing. Last night Cisco, tonight Omri, Monday some else I suspect. We are finally seeing the possibilities. I like that.

A for Omri for 4 qtrs
B for the team
C- for coaching the last 3 minutes

I don't know that I'd agree about the coaching. If Boogie hit both those ft's, or if Casspi hits even one let alone both like should have, this game doesn't produce nearly the rash of coronary related deaths in the Sacramento area that it did.
 
That.

No question about it imo..

I loved how Casspi hustled on D today, but i'm gonna be a little joy-breaker here and say I ain't buying it( Yet!).
He needs to proove he can shoot that consistently.. I mean he's a 180 degrees steaky shooter, when it goes everything is pink, sun is shining and the birds are singing.. but when it's bad he makes you wanna yell at him and tell him to go sit alone in the corner and never talk to you again.

He was actually pretty consistent game to game for the first 3/5 of the season last year. Even his shooting. He was something insane like 46 percent from three at the break. It was the exhaustion (legs) that took out his shot last year.
 
To see this level of play at the beginning of a season, on the road, with 3 new starters, one a rookie and 6 new players is nothing short of amazing. Last night Cisco, tonight Omri, Monday some else I suspect. We are finally seeing the possibilities. I like that.

A for Omri for 4 qtrs
B for the team
C- for coaching the last 3 minutes

Kinda like deja-vu. I remember Webber was consistant but you would have one night Peja one night Bibby. Then Christie and Vlade mihgt have a big scoring night occasionally. Bobby Jackson would have some big nights off the bench as did Jim Jackson and Hedo. Now Tyreke is consistant.

I used to love back in the day seeing how many players we could get into double digit scoring. Its starting to look like that again. I remember seeing 6 alot and 7 a few times but don't remember 8 to much. Thats my goal 8 players in double digit scoring with 6 and 7 happening pretty frequent.

so far we have had 6,6, and 5
 
Go Kings! Love the road trip at 2 and 1. Omri comes back from a bad night and is a beast! Westphal starts Dalembert in the 3rd and the game changes. Dally put some wood on a couple guys in the paint and suddenly the Cavs are not dancing so much.....LOVED IT!!!

KB
 
The SF dilema had me thinking... How awesome would it be to get Mike Miller from 3 years ago on the Kings, and even going further, how awesome would it have been if we got the coin flip and took Joakim Noah =/ Ahhh a guy can dream hehe
 
Thats my goal 8 players in double digit scoring with 6 and 7 happening pretty frequent.

so far we have had 6,6, and 5

We should be able to pretty much get 6 every night..

Reke, Landry, Beno, Omri, Cisco, DMC..

Now.. JT, Sammy, Head, Donte, Jackson... if any 2 can add to that every night we'd be set.
 
Landry ( B ) -- now Carl is really testing my grading abilities here. 14pts 3rebs followed by 17pts 3rebs? First principle: a PF who does not rebound is a completely worthless pile of dung. Rebounding is their single biggest job description. Second principle: a PF who carries an offense for stretchs and rarely misses is rather more valuable than dung. What to do when these two principles collide? Carl knocked down two jumpers to start, but from the beginning was not doing much else and was being matched by Hickson, who was beating him with quickness. Got off to the good aggressive start to the third, finally attacking inside, and also smoothly knocked down a j off the Reke drive and kick. Helped steady us in the early 4th while Reke rested -- was basically functioning as our goto guy again, albeit in this case still mostly a goto jumpshooter, and just kept on hitting 18 footer after 18 footer. Only grabbed 3 rebs on the night, but picked a good time to come up with the third, grabbing a good strong board along the baseline at the 2:15 mark with us up 6 and trying to hold on. So what to do with the grade? By definition Carl was a completely worthless pile of dung, he stayed outside, shot jumpers, and got little doen inside on either end fo the court. And yet that completely worthless pile of dung played an important role steadily peppering away from midrange, and in the end outperformed his younger more athletic opponent. So...I'm going B here. Can't go any higher for someone who as outrebounded by Kevin Martin on the ngiht (Kevin had 4 tonight for the Rockets). But Carl still helped.

You're letting self-indulgent stat whoring get in the way of reality. :p The only rebounding numbers that matter are end tally and they fell into our favor tonight by a fairly wide margin. Paul Westphal brought it up in an interview the other day. Even though Landry doesn't pile up on the statistical aspects of rebounding he is more often than not at least taking his man, or a man, from the other team off the boards by boxing out letting guys like Omri or Tyreke swoop in for the rebound. Sure, there are times where guys climb over him for the offensive board, but that happens to the best of rebounders.
 
You're letting self-indulgent stat whoring get in the way of reality. :p The only rebounding numbers that matter are end tally and they fell into our favor tonight by a fairly wide margin. Paul Westphal brought it up in an interview the other day. Even though Landry doesn't pile up on the statistical aspects of rebounding he is more often than not at least taking his man, or a man, from the other team off the boards by boxing out letting guys like Omri or Tyreke swoop in for the rebound. Sure, there are times where guys climb over him for the offensive board, but that happens to the best of rebounders.

I have never once bought into the "oh he's a crap rebounder but he boxes out!" line of excuse making, for anybody, and I certainly don't for Landry.
 
Now, if the Kings had only beaten the Nets a few nights ago... But I guess it's a good learning experience, coming back from double digit holes against teams you should be able to beat and then going from one game of choking it away to nearly choking it away but to hold on. The next time, I'd like to see no signs of choking and the time after that they should just blow the other team out and make it a route.
 
But I guess it's a good learning experience, coming back from double digit holes against teams you should be able to beat and then going from one game of choking it away to nearly choking it away but to hold on...

Unfortunately, it doesn't say much to be in those holes against the worst-assembled team in the league (MIN), the team that lost 20 straight last year (NJ) and the LeBron-less, identity-less Cavs.

We're lucky we're 2-1, not 0-3. We better not get in those holes against the other teams in the league, specifically the winning ones, or we're going to be the same team we were last year.
 
Unfortunately, it doesn't say much to be in those holes against the worst-assembled team in the league (MIN), the team that lost 20 straight last year (NJ) and the LeBron-less, identity-less Cavs.

We're lucky we're 2-1, not 0-3. We better not get in those holes against the other teams in the league, specifically the winning ones, or we're going to be the same team we were last year.

Perhaps, but there is something said for the confidence that comes from getting some wins early, especially with a young team that's had little taste of it. In stretches out there, the offense has actually looked it is flowing in a balanced and efficient way, which I rarely saw out there last year. Still need more of that o a consistent basis, for sure. Trust and team play - who can and should be expected to step up when a top scorer is sucking on it - I see more of that developing. I haven't actively been following stats on turnovers, but it seems like we are doing less of that - at least compared to the teams we've played so far. Defense is still an issue, but with Casspi's hustle, Dally playing, DeMarcus learning (we hope), and D-Jax providing suprising toughness, we should improve. We certainly can't be content with giving 100+ plus to bottom feeder teams.

I'm happy to see improvement right now. A winning record is nice, too. Don't worry, I won't get used to it ;-)
 
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