Grades v. Bobcats 02/25

Which of these players does Drew Gooden most remind you of?

  • Wilt Chamberalin

    Votes: 7 12.1%
  • Bill Russel

    Votes: 2 3.4%
  • Karl Malone

    Votes: 10 17.2%
  • Chris Webber

    Votes: 3 5.2%
  • Kenny Thomas

    Votes: 36 62.1%

  • Total voters
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Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
By all rights we should be looking at girls right now, but no, another one of this ludicrous squad's fake hustle charges after the game was over deprives us. So now we get grades for a game involving the 12-47 Sacramento Kings and the 23-35 Charlotte Bobcats without even anything exciting to look at.

Well, favorite philosophers turned out to be a dubious choice for an off the cuff theme -- took too long to explain the choices and dragged the grades out. Was almost going to take the favorite cuts of steak suggestion from yesterday, except I'm not sure there would be enough of them to fill this out. So going to do another off the cuffer, but one where I know that I can simply copy paste the information from around the internet: So let's go with a theme of: Favorite Poems. Which should be appropriate for this season since most of my favorites are sad poems about death and loss.

Cisco ( B ) -- overpowerd by Gerald in the first half, able to get a little at the other end, but we could not find him a good matchup on defense. Came out in the thrid energized and helped lead a push to get us back into it. Had problems bringing up the ball as he was forced to play some point in the late third, but made pretty good decisions with the ball when he was able to advance it, and continued to give us a little scoring, thankfully eschewing the mindless long bomb chucking for aggressive drives to the hoop. Outplayed by Gerald, but then again Gerald is the better player. Generally helped, and was only one of 2 starters to do so.

Do Not Go Gentle Into That Good Night
by Dylan Thomas

Let's start this off with a bang with one of the greatest poems ever written and likely my own personal favorite:

Do Not Go Gentle Into That Good Night

Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

And you, my father, there on that sad height,
Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

-- Dylan Thomas

Thompson ( D ) -- continued his recent struggles, although this time it was not really the fouls that did him in -- he had 5 but was not in serious foul trouble until late. Struggled rather in the more conventional sense of a guy who just got his butt kicked, and by Boris Diaw of all people too. Boris, it must be remembered, started his career as an OG, is a natural SF, and really only a PF in a smallball system like the Suns'. But you would not have known it based on tonight. JT had some early hiustle boards but otherwise was badly outmaneuvered and even surprisingly overpowered by Diaw in the first half. Sat for the first time for ineffectiveness, not foul trouble, which would actually have been a welcome change if he were playing somebody who could reasonably have been expected to render him ineffective. Returned for the second half of the second quarter and was more effective, or at least active, on offense, but stil could get nothign to fall on his way to a 2-10 night. Started off the third with both he and us as a team looking briefly rejuvenated, and even took it like a man when Diaw drew two fouls from him on one possession, the second on a nice post move that had Jason befuddled. But it led nowhere in particular, and on a night when he struggled on defense, strugled to finish, and wasn't even able to control the glass, he lost a lot of minutes to a much more effective Drew Gooden.

Fern Hill
by Dylan Thomas

Overshadowed by the fame of the first selection, I always considered this poem by the same author to be completely brilliant as well in a much different way:

Fern Hill
by Dylan Thomas

Now as I was young and easy under the apple boughs
About the lilting house and happy as the grass was green,
The night above the dingle starry,
Time let me hail and climb
Golden in the heydays of his eyes,
And honoured among wagons I was prince of the apple towns
And once below a time I lordly had the trees and leaves
Trail with daisies and barley
Down the rivers of the windfall light.

And as I was green and carefree, famous among the barns
About the happy yard and singing as the farm was home,
In the sun that is young once only,
Time let me play and be
Golden in the mercy of his means,
And green and golden I was huntsman and herdsman, the calves
Sang to my horn, the foxes on the hills barked clear and cold,
And the sabbath rang slowly
In the pebbles of the holy streams.

All the sun long it was running, it was lovely, the hay
Fields high as the house, the tunes from the chimneys, it was air
And playing, lovely and watery
And fire green as grass.
And nightly under the simple stars
As I rode to sleep the owls were bearing the farm away,
All the moon long I heard, blessed among stables, the nightjars
Flying with the ricks, and the horses
Flashing into the dark.

And then to awake, and the farm, like a wanderer white
With the dew, come back, the roster on his shoulder: it was all
Shining, it was Adam and maiden,
The sky gathered again
And the sun grew round that very day.
So it must have been after the birth of the simple light
In the first, spinning place, the spellbound horses walking warm
Out of the whinnying green stable
On to the fields of praise.

And honoured among foxes and pheasants by the gay house
Under the new made clouds and happy as the heart was long,
In the sun born over and over,
I ran my heedless ways,
My wishes raced through the house high hay
And nothing I cared, at my sky blue trades, that time allows
In all his tuneful turning so few and such morning songs
Before the children green and golden
Follow him out of grace,

Nothing I cared, in the lamb white days, that time would take me
Up to the swallow thronged loft by the shadow of my hand,
In the moon that is always rising,
Nor that riding to sleep
I should hear him fly with the high fields
And wake to the farm forever fled from the childless land.
Oh as I was young and easy in the mercy of his means,
Time held me green and dying
Though I sang in my chains like the sea.

Hawes ( C- ) -- and in a disappointing outing, turns out both of our bigs had poor games. Looked like Spencer was going to use his height advantage against Okafor early, but he started missing everything and once he headed to the bench never returned for the rest of the half with Gooden playing well. Was enver able to generate any push offensively, and the reasons why remain a little mysterious. Best thing he did on that end was make a few good passes to set guys up. Got beat on the glass as well. Okafor has never terribly impressed me, and again looked pedestrian out there, but what he does, and did to Spencer tonight, was just deliver another of his classic night in and night out workmanlike efforts. 13pts 11rebs, and just solid while the kid he was facing (that would be Spencer) flitted about trying a little of this and a little of that and not getting much done.

An Irish Airman Forsees His Death
by William Butler Yeats

The first of two I'll probably include from Yeats, written after WWI:

An Irish Airman Forsees His Death
William Butler Yeats

I know that I shall meet my fate
Somewhere among the clouds above;
Those that I fight I do not hate,
Those that I guard I do not love;
My county is Kiltartan Cross,
My countrymen Kiltartan's poor,
No likely end could bring them loss
Or leave them happier than before.
Nor law, nor duty bade me fight,
Nor public men, nor cheering crowds,
A lonely impulse of delight
Drove to this tumult in the clouds;
I balanced all, brought all to mind,
The years to come seemed waste of breath,
A waste of breath the years behind
In balance with this life, this death.

Martin ( B ) -- carrying the Kings early on offense then went completely quiet until the second half -- think he had all 9 of his first half points in the first 5 minutes, then nothing until half. Came out with five quick points in the third as we got it under 10, and was generally solid thereafter. At no point spectacular, just solid. Had a 9 point first quarter, a 9 point third quarter, and then 9 more in the 4th. Was plagued by turnovers for much of the night, and not the best rounded performance again (the stats credit him with 3 steals and 3 blocks and all I have to say is, no way). Was some sporadic activity up top as a defender. Don't think that Bell particularly bothered him on defense, and certainly uber scub, and namesake, Cartier Martin did not. Provided the steady scoring we needed if we were ever going to win this, but there was no pop -- its worth noting he had the highest negative +/- on the team, by a lot (-19 for the game). The pushes we made needed him there chugging along, but it was Gooden, or Cisco, or Bobby or even McCants who made the positive differences in this one.

To an Athlete Dying Young
by A. E. Housman

Here's an athletically related one:
To an Athlete Dying Young
by A. E. Housman

The time you won your town the race
We chaired you through the market-place;
Man and boy stood cheering by,
And home we brought you shoulder-high.

To-day, the road all runners come,
Shoulder-high we bring you home,
And set you at your threshold down,
Townsman of a stiller town.

Smart lad, to slip betimes away
From fields were glory does not stay
And early though the laurel grows
It withers quicker than the rose.

Eyes the shady night has shut
Cannot see the record cut,
And silence sounds no worse than cheers
After earth has stopped the ears:

Now you will not swell the rout
Of lads that wore their honours out,
Runners whom renown outran
And the name died before the man.

So set, before its echoes fade,
The fleet foot on the sill of shade,
And hold to the low lintel up
The still-defended challenge-cup.

And round that early-laurelled head
Will flock to gaze the strengthless dead,
And find unwithered on its curls
The garland briefer than a girl's.
 
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Beno ( INC ) -- Vini Vidi Vulneri (which if my embarassingly rusty and never very good in the first place latin is correct means "injured"). Beno came, Beno saw Gerald Wallace, Beno left the game. All in the first 90 seconds. Became the first player in NBA history to have a collsion with Gerald and actually come away with the worse injury. Sprained foot, never returned to the game. Not sure about the future. Would have thought maybe McCants could have gotten some run because of it, but Natt is too clever for that.

The End
by Mark Strand

Might be the only one that makes this list by a poet who is still alive:
The End
by Mark Strand

Not every man knows what he shall sing at the end,
Watching the pier as he ship sails away, or what it will seem like
When he’s held by the sea’s roar, motionless, there at the end,
Or what he shall hope for once it is clear that he’ll never go back.

When the time has passed to prune the rose or caress the cat,
When the sunset torching the lawn and the full moon icing it down
No longer appear, not every man knows what he’ll discover instead.
When the weight of the past leans against nothing, and the sky

Is no more than remembered light, and the stories of cirrus
And cumulus come to a close, and all the birds are suspended in flight,
Not every man knows what is waiting for him, or what he shall sing
When the ship he is on slips into darkness, there at the end.

BJax ( C+ ) -- the boxscore will say that Bobby wasn't very effective tongiht. that he could not hit his shots and came up with only 5pts in 33 minutes. But the reality was a little more complex than that. Suddenly thrust into basically the starting role when Beno went down, BJax did indeed start off the game not terribly effective in the early relief. But when he returned late in the first half combined he combined with McCants to key a bit of a hustle push to close things back a bit. Then after again justifying the boxscore with 3rd quarter invisibility, he directed the fake hustle charge to close htings a bit in the 4th. And while overall this was no gem, especially compared to the other options we had at point we were consistently better with Bobby out on the floor. And in a game we lost by 7, we were winning it by 9 during the minutes that Bobby was directing things.

Black Marigolds
by Chauras

This next one is for my money perhaps the greatest love poem ever written, and certainly the most hauntingly romantic. Its an ancient poem wiht a remarkable story not as well known to Western audiences, so a bit of an introduction: two thousand years ago there lived a young poet named Chaurus in the Kashmir region of northern India. He fell in love with the daughter of the local king and they began a passionate affair. When they were finally caught together he was arrested and dragged off with orders to be executed at dawn. Legend has it that he wrote these 50 stanzas, the Chaurapanchasika, during the night before his execution. They did not save him -- he was executed on schedule. But the verses survived to make their affair legendary. When translated from the orignal sanskrit they have come to be known in English as Black Marigolds. Its a cold person indeed who can read them aloud without a crack in their voice. I have excerpted as I could to keep the length reasonable.


Even now
My thought is all of this gold-tinted king's daughter
With garlands tissue and golden buds,
Smoke tangles of her hair, and sleeping or waking
Feet trembling in love, full of pale languor;
My thought is clinging as to a lost learning
Slipped down out of the minds of men,
Labouring to bring her back into my soul.

Even now
If I see in my soul the citron-breasted fair one
Still gold-tinted, her face like our night stars,
Drawing unto her; her body beaten about with flame,
Wounded by the flaring spear of love,
My first of all by reason of her fresh years,
Then is my heart buried alive in snow.

Even now
If my girl with lotus eyes came to me again
Weary with the dear weight of young love,
Again I would give her to these starved twins of arms
And from her mouth drink down the heavy wine,
As a reeling pirate bee in fluttered ease
Steals up the honey from the nenuphar.

Even now
I bring her back, ah, wearied out with love
So that her slim feet could not bear her up;
Curved falls of her hair down on her white cheeks;
In the confusion of her coloured vests
Speaking that guarded giving up, and her scented arms
Lay like cool bindweed over against my neck.

Even now
She is art-magically present to my soul,
And that one word of strange heart's cease, goodbye,
That in the night, in loth moving to go,
And bending over to a golden mouth,
I said softly to the turned away
Tenderly tired hair of this king's daughter.

Even now
My eyes that hurry to see no more are painting, painting
Faces of my lost girl. O golden rings
That tap against cheeks of small magnolia-leaves,
O whitest so soft parchment where
My poor divorced lips have written excellent
Stanzas of kisses, and will write no more.

Even now
When all my heavy heart is broken up
I seem to see my prison walls breaking
And then a light, and in that light a girl
Her fingers busied about her hair, her cool white arms
Faint rosy at the elbows, raised in the sunlight,
And temperate eyes that wander far away.

Even now
I seem to see my prison walls come close,
Built up of darkness, and against that darkness
A girl no taller than my breast and very tired,
Leaning upon the bed and smiling, feeding
A little bird and lying slender as ash trees,
Sleepily aware as I told of the green
Grapes and the small bright coloured river flowers.

Even now
I see her, as I used, in her white palace
Under black torches throwing cool red light,
Woven with many flowers and tearing the dark.
I see her rising, showing all her face
Defiant timidly, saying clearly:
Now I shall go to sleep, goodnight, my ladies.

Even now
I know my princess was happy. I see her stand
Touching her breasts with all her flower-soft fingers,
Looking askance at me with smiling eyes.
There is a god that arms him with a flower
And she was stricken deep. Here, oh die here.
Kiss me and I shall be purer than quick rivers.

Even now
They chatter her weakness through the two bazaars
Who was so strong to love me. And small men
That buy and sell for silver being slaves
Crinkles the fat about their eyes; and yet
No Prince of the Cities of the Sea has taken her,
Leading to his grim bed. Little lonely one,
You cling to me as a garment clings; my girl.

Even now
Only one dawn shall rise for me. The stars
Revolve tomorrow's night and I not heed.
One brief cold watch beside an empty heart
And that is all. This night she rests not well;
Oh, sleep; for there is heaviness for all the world
Except for the death-lighted heart of me.

Even now
I mind the coming and talking of wise men from towers
Where they had thought away their youth. And I, listening,
Found not the salt of the whispers of my girl,
Murmur of confused colours, as we lay near sleep;
Little wise words and little witty words,
Wanton as water, honied with eagerness.

Even now
The woodcutter and the fisherman turn home,
With on his axe the moon and in his dripping net
Caught yellow moonlight. The purple flame of fires
Calls them to love and sleep. From the hot town
The maker of scant songs for bread wanders
To lie under the clematis with his girl.
The moon shines on her breasts, and I must die.

Even now
I seem to see the face of my lost girl
With frightened eyes, like a wood wanderer,
In travail with sorrowful waters, unwept tears
Labouring to be born and fall; when the white face turned
And little ears caught at the far murmur,
The pleased snarling of the tumult of dogs
When I was hurried away down the white road.

Even now
I marvel at the bravery of love.
She, whose two feet might be held in one hand
And all her body on a shield of the guards,
Lashed like a gold panther taken in a pit
Tearfully valiant, when I too was taken;
Bearding her black beard father in his wrath,
Striking the soldiers with white impotent hands.

Even now
Sleep left me all these nights for your white bed
And I am sure you sistered lay with sleep
After much weeping. Piteous little love,
Death is in the garden, time runs down,
The year that simple and unexalted ran till now
Ferments in winy autumn, and I must die.

Even now
The night is full of silver straws of rain,
And I will send my soul to see your body
This last poor time. I stand beside your bed;
Your shadowed head lies leaving a bright space
Upon the pillow empty, your sorrowful arm
Holds from your side and clasps at anything.
There is no covering upon you.

Even now
I think your feet seek mine to comfort them.
There is some dream about you even now
Which I'll not hear at waking. Weep not at dawn,
Though day brings wearily your daily loss
And all the light is hateful. Now it is time
To bring my soul away.

Even now
I mind that I went round with men and women,
And underneath their brows, deep in their eyes,
I saw their souls, which go slipping aside
In swarms before the pleasure of my mind;
The world was like a flight of birds, shadow or flame
Which I saw pass above the engraven hills.
Yet there was never one like to my girl.

Even now
Death I take up as consolation.
Nay, were I free as the condor with his wings
Or old kings throned on voilet ivory,
Night would not come without beds of green floss
And never a bed without my bright darling.
It is most fit that you strike now, black guards,
And let this fountain out before the dawn.

Even now
I know that I have savoured the hot taste of life
Lifting green cups and gold at the great feast.
Just for a small and a forgotten time
I have had full in my eyes from off my girl
The whitest pouring of eternal light .
The heavy knife. As to a gala day.
 
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Nocioni ( C ) -- well, back down to Earth for Noc. Came into the game a little sloppy and not terribly effective in the early going. Was repeatedly beat by Wallace in the third, and by the end of the quarter only had 4 points in response. But was an important part of the late game crew who brought the score back to respectability. Dropped in a nice post move, hit a three and got to the line. None of the impact of the last game out though.

Stopping by Woods on a Snowy Evening
by Robert Frost

One of those poems that even people who do not know poetry know:

Stopping by Woods on a Snowy Evening

Whose woods these are I think I know.
His house is in the village, though;
He will not see me stopping here
To watch his woods fill up with snow.

My little horse must think it queer
To stop without a farmhouse near
Between the woods and frozen lake
The darkest evening of the year.

He gives his harness bells a shake
To ask if there is some mistake.
The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.

The woods are lovely, dark, and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep.

Robert Frost

Gooden ( B+ ) -- and here he was, like Noc form the game before, our new player of the game. Freed from the much feared chin dreads which were clearly holding him down, Drew came in at the end of the first quarter and gave a moribund team a little boost, hitting a jumper, grabbing a board, and pretending to block a shot (he does not block shots -- foul was called). Started the second quarter off with a dunk off a nice pick and roll with Spencer, a pair of FTs, and a hustle rebound save to complete the early impression before the Boibcats settled in and began to take advantage of him from the perimeter. Very professional, stepped right in and looked very comfortable running all the basic plays -- mroe comfortable actually than Jaosn, who has been here all season. And oops, I was wrong in my earlier predictions, it was Spencer's minutes that he took as much as Jason's. Was back in in the mid third and immediately scored again. Controlled the glass in the early 4th as we mounted another one of our tired "comebacks", and on the night grabbed more rebounds than both our young bigs combined (yo, Jason, Spence, get with it!). Almost justified Jerry's embarrassing gushing. Almost. Ok...not even close. But still a very solid outing without which the score would have been even worse.

Annabel Lee
by Edgar Alan Poe

It probably says something about me that my love poems are all about love lost rather than love gained:

Annabel Lee

It was many and many a year ago,
In a kingdom by the sea,
That a maiden there lived whom you may know
By the name of Annabel Lee;
And this maiden she lived with no other thought
Than to love and be loved by me.

I was a child and she was a child,
In this kingdom by the sea;
But we loved with a love that was more than love-
I and my Annabel Lee;
With a love that the winged seraphs of heaven
Coveted her and me.

And this was the reason that, long ago,
In this kingdom by the sea,
A wind blew out of a cloud, chilling
My beautiful Annabel Lee;
So that her highborn kinsman came
And bore her away from me,
To shut her up in a sepulchre
In this kingdom by the sea.

The angels, not half so happy in heaven,
Went envying her and me-
Yes!- that was the reason (as all men know,
In this kingdom by the sea)
That the wind came out of the cloud by night,
Chilling and killing my Annabel Lee.

But our love it was stronger by far than the love
Of those who were older than we-
Of many far wiser than we-
And neither the angels in heaven above,
Nor the demons down under the sea,
Can ever dissever my soul from the soul
Of the beautiful Annabel Lee.

For the moon never beams without bringing me dreams
Of the beautiful Annabel Lee;
And the stars never rise but I feel the bright eyes
Of the beautiful Annabel Lee;
And so, all the night-tide, I lie down by the side
Of my darling- my darling- my life and my bride,
In the sepulchre there by the sea,
In her tomb by the sounding sea.

Edgar Allan Poe

Solomon ( D- ) -- minutes were slightly enlarged once Beno went down, but frankly I think we saw about as much of him as we could toletrate on the night. Holding this one up a little solely because he's still new here, but he was completely ineffective out there. And oh, Will, you might want to note that Augustin can shoot -- just because you show up in Sacramento does not mean that you automatically have to acquire our allergy to 3pt defense.

When You Are Old
by William Butler Yeats

The second Yeats poem on my list here, it has a quiet dignity in meditating on love and loss:

When You Are Old
--William Butler Yeats

When you are old and grey and full of sleep,
And nodding by the fire, take down this book,
And slowly read, and dream of the soft look
Your eyes had once, and of their shadows deep;

How many loved your moments of glad grace,
And loved your beauty with love false or true,
But one man loved the pilgrim Soul in you,
And loved the sorrows of your changing face;

And bending down beside the glowing bars,
Murmur, a little sadly, how Love fled
And paced upon the mountains overhead
And hid his face amid a crowd of stars.

Greene ( INC ) -- in at the end of the first and tried a drive against Diop -- oopsie, not much else and we did not go back to him.

To His Coy Mistress
by Andrew Marvel

We're going to grow old and die, so let's get it on while we still can! Brilliant! How did pick up lines ever devolve to "Your body's name must be Visa, because it's everywhere I want to be"?:

To his Coy Mistress
by Andrew Marvell

Had we but world enough, and time,
This coyness, lady, were no crime.
We would sit down and think which way
To walk, and pass our long love's day;
Thou by the Indian Ganges' side
Shouldst rubies find; I by the tide
Of Humber would complain. I would
Love you ten years before the Flood;
And you should, if you please, refuse
Till the conversion of the Jews.
My vegetable love should grow
Vaster than empires, and more slow.
An hundred years should go to praise
Thine eyes, and on thy forehead gaze;
Two hundred to adore each breast,
But thirty thousand to the rest;
An age at least to every part,
And the last age should show your heart.
For, lady, you deserve this state,
Nor would I love at lower rate.

But at my back I always hear
Time's winged chariot hurrying near;
And yonder all before us lie
Deserts of vast eternity.
Thy beauty shall no more be found,
Nor, in thy marble vault, shall sound
My echoing song; then worms shall try
That long preserv'd virginity,
And your quaint honour turn to dust,
And into ashes all my lust.
The grave's a fine and private place,
But none I think do there embrace.

Now therefore, while the youthful hue
Sits on thy skin like morning dew,
And while thy willing soul transpires
At every pore with instant fires,
Now let us sport us while we may;
And now, like am'rous birds of prey,
Rather at once our time devour,
Than languish in his slow-chapp'd power.
Let us roll all our strength, and all
Our sweetness, up into one ball;
And tear our pleasures with rough strife
Thorough the iron gates of life.
Thus, though we cannot make our sun
Stand still, yet we will make him run.

McCants ( B ) -- took him a long time to get into this one, but in the dying minutes of the second quarter combined with BJax to give the Kings a little minipush to help us from being down 20 at the half -- whatta team. Helped our 4th quarter mini-comebak with solid defense on Wallace -- better than anybody else. Not that that can earn you more minutes with the Natt at the helm.

I Think Continually Of Those Who Were Truly Great
Stephen Spender

Unable to decide betwen various Byron, Blake, Tennyson or Whitman pieces, I went with this one. Famous poetry critic Randall Jarrell once savaged this poem, which meant I was automatically going to like it since Jarrel was an unmitigated ***, but it is reproduced here for irony -- the poet is not talking about us I fear:

I Think Continually Of Those Who Were Truly Great
Stephen Spender

I think continually of those who were truly great.
Who, from the womb, remembered the soul's history
Through corridors of light where the hours are suns
Endless and singing. Whose lovely ambition
Was that their lips, still touched with fire,
Should tell of the Spirit clothed from head to foot in song.
And who hoarded from the Spring branches
The desires falling across their bodies like blossoms.

What is precious is never to forget
The essential delight of the blood drawn from ageless springs
Breaking through rocks in worlds before our earth.
Never to deny its pleasure in the morning simple light
Nor its grave evening demand for love.
Never to allow gradually the traffic to smother
With noise and fog the flowering of the spirit.

Near the snow, near the sun, in the highest fields
See how these names are feted by the waving grass
And by the streamers of white cloud
And whispers of wind in the listening sky.
The names of those who in their lives fought for life
Who wore at their hearts the fire's center.
Born of the sun they traveled a short while towards the sun,
And left the vivid air signed with their honor.
 
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This is exactly what we needed. The worst thing we can do is win right now people! I remember last year posters on this board praising Pat Riley for doing such a masterful job losing. He had it easy compared to this year...

Keep in mind we have the Wiz, Wolves, OKC, Clippers, Warriors and Griz all withing a few games of us... things could change from a 25% chance in the lottery to a 6% chance real quick... Do you guys really wanna go through hoping for a high draft pick again next season? Let's just get our top pick now! Next year with a new coach and signings we'll prob be mid 10 to 15 pick at best. :(
 
Keep in mind we have the Wiz, Wolves, OKC, Clippers, Warriors and Griz all withing a few games of us... things could change from a 25% chance in the lottery to a 6% chance real quick... Do you guys really wanna go through hoping for a high draft pick again next season? Let's just get our top pick now! Next year with a new coach and signings we'll prob be mid 10 to 15 pick at best. :(

Now, now don't get too hasty. We are the worst team in the league and who is to say that we will become a middle team(at worst) next year?
 
I didn't get to see the game, but I do get ESPN updates on my phone - and I couldn't believe that we were down by so much at some points!! Wow, how many minutes did Gooden play??
 
Gooden had 12 & 13?? not bad.. But the worst stat is 26 min!!! I know JT had 5 fouls and Spence had 4, so hopefully that explains it.
 
lol so much hate on gooden. its kinda funny

Now don't get me wrong.. I love the fact that he had 13 boards in 26 min. That's 1 every 2 minutes! That is awesome. it's not often a King rebounds like that. However, having just as many minutes as Spence and JT hopefully will not become habitual of Coach Natt.
 
lol so much hate on gooden. its kinda funny

Wrong place, wrong time.

He is in the way, and I am thankful that we have come far enough as a fanbase that people recognize that now. Jerry can spin and sell and shuckster all he wants, but people are finally seeing through the used car salesmanship that's been engaged in for too long around these parts.
 
I sent my soul through the Invisible
Some letter of that afterlife to spell
And by and by my soul return'd to me
And answer'd "I myself am Heav'n and Hell"
 
Hmm...when i saw that the theme of the grades would be poems, and depressing ones about death on top of that, the first thing coming to mind was The Waste Land. If it's your plan to actually post them all in full, The Waste Land would be unfeasible, but otherwise it has to be there. Far, far too many parallels to the Kings' season. Especially in the last part.
 
While I don't want Gooden taking a lot of minutes from JT and Spencer, somebody has to back them up. The back ups will get a lot of minutes if the foul trouble continues. JT has 5 or more fouls in 10 of the last 15 games. Can't blame Natt for giving so many minutes to Gooden tonight. It's better than seeing Kenny Thomas out there.

JT (and some fans) can complain about his not getting calls when he is fouled (rookie-itis would be a good name for that), but you can't really complain a lot about the ones called on him. He does commit a lot of fouls.
 
I like the variety in themes Brick, but most poetry is lost on me.

I love to read - fiction, sci-fi, non-fiction, fantasy, mystery, thriller, etc. Love reading. I love poetry set to music (songs). I like a lot of art I see - including that at the Louvre and a lot of other famous museums I have been to. I enjoy going to castles, museums, etc. I enjoy reading rhyming books to my son (he's 6) and he gets a kick out of some of them as well.

But poetry just goes over my head most of the time. I do find some stuff I can appreciate, but if you asked me for a favorite poem, I don't think I could name a poem, much less a favorite one.

Most is too abstract, too meandering, too boring, too pointless. I don't get anything out of it. I find myself skimming it for key words to see what the heck they are talking about and see if it has a *point*. It just doesn't "speak" to me. Maybe I just don't have the poetry "gene" or something.

Now I know that this is a shortcoming or limitation on my behalf and not the poet, but I just fail to see the attraction most of the time. Sorry.
 
Advice to Pilgrims

That our senses lie and our minds trick us is true, but in
-----general
They are honest rustics; trust them a little;
The senses more than the man, and your own mind more
-----than another man's.
As to the mind's pilot, intuition
Catch him clean and stark naked, he is the first of truth-
-----tellers; dream-clothed, or dirty
With fears and wishes, he is prince of liars.
The first fear is of death: trust no immortalist. The first
-----desire
Is to be loved: trust no mother's son.
Finally I say let demagogues and world redeemers bab-
-----ble their emptiness
To empty ears; twice duped is too much.
Walk on gaunt shores and avoid the people; rock and
-----wave are good prophets;
Wise are the wings of the gull, pleasant her song.

Robinson Jeffers
 
By far the best theme yet Brick!

From his obit:

He was not a poet's poet. Fancy-Dan dilettantes will dispute the description "great." He was a people's poet. To the people he was great. They understood him, and knew that any verse carrying the by-line of Robert W. Service would be a lilting thing, clear, clean and power-packed, beating out a story with a dramatic intensity that made the nerves tingle.

"The only society I like," he once said, "is that which is rough and tough - and the tougher the better. That's where you get down to bedrock and meet human people." He found that kind of society in the Yukon gold rush, and he immortalized it.

GRIN

If you're up against a bruiser and you're getting knocked about --
Grin.
If you're feeling pretty groggy, and you're licked beyond a doubt --
Grin.
Don't let him see you're funking, let him know with every clout,
Though your face is battered to a pulp, your blooming heart is stout;
Just stand upon your pins until the beggar knocks you out --
And grin.
This life's a bally battle, and the same advice holds true
Of grin.
If you're up against it badly, then it's only one on you,
So grin.
If the future's black as thunder, don't let people see you're blue;
Just cultivate a cast-iron smile of joy the whole day through;
If they call you "Little Sunshine", wish that THEY'D no troubles, too --
You may -- grin.
Rise up in the morning with the will that, smooth or rough,
You'll grin.
Sink to sleep at midnight, and although you're feeling tough,
Yet grin.
There's nothing gained by whining, and you're not that kind of stuff;
You're a fighter from away back, and you WON'T take a rebuff;
Your trouble is that you don't know when you have had enough --
Don't give in.
If Fate should down you, just get up and take another cuff;
You may bank on it that there is no philosophy like bluff,
And grin.:D
 
Not technically a poem, but this was going through my head while watching Gooden on the exercise bike at half time.

This is a Low - Blur (Chorus)

this is a low,
But it wont hurt you.
When you're alone,
It will be there with you.
This is a low,
But it wont hurt you.
When you're alone,
It will be there with you,
Finding ways to stay solo.

Pretty much sums up the Kings Season.
 
Here is the Kenny Natt transition plan for new players in their first game:

Natt will give you all the minutes you want unless he does not like you, then you will not play, not even a second. Will this ruin the game and almost ensure a loss as you do not know the offense? YES! Will the starters be forced to play less minutes to make room? Absolutely! Will established players be pulled if they make a single mistake but you are allowed to "adjust" during an actual NBA game? YES! YES!

Gooden played WAY too many minutes in his first game... it crippled the offense. And now that Nocioni knows the offense... let's sit him.

Terribly coached game... when Beno went down I thought this:
Awesome, with Beno out, Garcia will slide to the point and we will have a lineup of Garcia, Martin, Nocioni, JT, and Hawes that will out-hustle the other team! But instead we got a lineup of BJax/Solomon, Martin/McCants, Garcia, Gooden/JT/Hawes/Nocioni/Greene splitting two spots.

Lastly, Why are the Kings playing Small ball anyways? With Beno out, the best depth/talent is in the SF/PF/C players! Just crazy!
 
People need to give Coach Natt a break. He's doing exactly what we need. We're seeing combinations of players, there's more excitement in the fan base than we've seen in a long time, and we're still holding on to that coveted basement position.

I'm beginning to think he's brilliant. He's finding ways to ensure we don't accidentally put a combination on the floor that will ruin all our hard work and suckatude and pull out wins, but he's subtle about it. Remember - we've seen other teams purposefully sit their best players for weeks to make sure they hobble the team. Natt isn't doing that...

I think some people are confusing fantasy situations with the real NBA. While we might have a lot of ideas about what might or might not work, Natt has to work with real people, real egos, real owners, etc.

Be glad our team is at least showing a spark and putting forth some effort. I've said it before and I guess I'll say it again...things could be a lot, lot worse.

And Brickie? GREAT THEME!!!

:)
 
People need to give Coach Natt a break. He's doing exactly what we need. We're seeing combinations of players, there's more excitement in the fan base than we've seen in a long time, and we're still holding on to that coveted basement position.

I'm beginning to think he's brilliant. He's finding ways to ensure we don't accidentally put a combination on the floor that will ruin all our hard work and suckatude and pull out wins, but he's subtle about it. Remember - we've seen other teams purposefully sit their best players for weeks to make sure they hobble the team. Natt isn't doing that...

I think some people are confusing fantasy situations with the real NBA. While we might have a lot of ideas about what might or might not work, Natt has to work with real people, real egos, real owners, etc.

Be glad our team is at least showing a spark and putting forth some effort. I've said it before and I guess I'll say it again...things could be a lot, lot worse.

And Brickie? GREAT THEME!!!

:)
True... I never thought he might be a mad genius! The day Geoff tells Natt to pack his bags and take the next stagecoach out of town will be a great one! I just wonder who the Kings will get to fill the "void" when Natt leaves...
 
Gooden played WAY too many minutes in his first game... it crippled the offense.

It's pretty tough to criticize a guy who went for 12 and 13 in 26 minutes (injured, no less) for playing too much. The offense couldn't have been too crippled as Gooden was one of only 4 Kings with a positive +/- on the night. (And yes, I hate that stat for small sample sizes, but it's all there is to go on.) I thought the team looked pretty good when Drew was out there, myself.
 
People need to give Coach Natt a break. He's doing exactly what we need. We're seeing combinations of players, there's more excitement in the fan base than we've seen in a long time, and we're still holding on to that coveted basement position.

I'm beginning to think he's brilliant. He's finding ways to ensure we don't accidentally put a combination on the floor that will ruin all our hard work and suckatude and pull out wins, but he's subtle about it. Remember - we've seen other teams purposefully sit their best players for weeks to make sure they hobble the team. Natt isn't doing that...

I think some people are confusing fantasy situations with the real NBA. While we might have a lot of ideas about what might or might not work, Natt has to work with real people, real egos, real owners, etc.

Be glad our team is at least showing a spark and putting forth some effort. I've said it before and I guess I'll say it again...things could be a lot, lot worse.

And Brickie? GREAT THEME!!!

:)


Did ya catch the Bee this morning? There was a title of one of the articles...

Natt starts over deciding who plays when....

When I read that I pretty much said.. "oh good god".. Natt needs to start over? He never really decided anything last time he "started over" except by giving inconsistent minutes to everyone but Martin... :D

My biggest worry, and I said this when we got Gooden, is that Natt will play Gooden 25-30mpg and he will average a double double and then Petrie will swoop in and offer Gooden a MLE type contract for 4-5 years and 30mil and Gooden will go back to averaging 13/7. Gooden is playing for a contract, and I think his stats will be inflated a bit these last two months, and Natt will continue playing him more than we need him to be played :(
 
If Gooden actually performs decently, I can see us doing a "sign and trade" over the summer so I'm not too worried about him.
 
So i went to the game last night, i thought it was empty but the lowest amount of people in new arco era wow. I was thinkin hay Michael Jordan went to the rockets game i wonder if hes here i looked around cudnt see him. I did see a tall guy in a nice suit but cud only see him from the back, i wondered who he was, then they announced mj was in the building , i was right behind him in sec 110, he wudnt turn around or anything which i respect he prolly gets hounded everywhere he goes but geez mj i spent thousands of dollars on your shoes in my lifetime, he cudnt jus turned around and waived i wudda been giddy. They cudda had more people there if they cancelled the game and jus let people know MJ was gonna be there.

Back to the game not having beno actually kind of killed us, i been talkin bad about beno most of the season but he has been playin well lately. Boris Diaw is a nice player but no way shoud he be doin Jt like that, Jt had a bad game, he looks like hes in to much of a hurry if he wud jus slow down a little and jus gather and shoot over people he wud be much more effective. Gooden played well, dont mind him being out there we need a good 3 bigs for the rotation. I wanna see if Rashad can run a little point hes a small 2 but cud be a big 1 guard which is a nice thing to have. and i wanna see donte greene get more minutes we are the worst team in the leauge lets get Donte some minutes and see what he can do beyond shooting threes.
 
As a side note, I am really getting impressed by Greene's defensive play when he is in the game. I have been tracking a lot of different defensive stats for our games recently and Greene's numbers jump out every time.

Last night he only played a few minutes, yet he heavily contested a shot the Bobcats missed, came over on help D and stopped a shot at the hoop that would have been a sure layup, did not get beaten off the dribble once, forced a turnover, successfully defended the post the one time he got posted up and they tried to pick and roll against him twice and both times he showed and got back to his man in time to prevent any advantage from being gained.

He has performed like this in all four games I have tracked. He has a very good combination of length, foot speed, athleticism, fluidity and hops. I know people tend to get fixated on his offensive potential, but I think he has the potential to be a very good defender.
 
As a side note, I am really getting impressed by Greene's defensive play when he is in the game. I have been tracking a lot of different defensive stats for our games recently and Greene's numbers jump out every time.

Last night he only played a few minutes, yet he heavily contested a shot the Bobcats missed, came over on help D and stopped a shot at the hoop that would have been a sure layup, did not get beaten off the dribble once, forced a turnover, successfully defended the post the one time he got posted up and they tried to pick and roll against him twice and both times he showed and got back to his man in time to prevent any advantage from being gained.

He has performed like this in all four games I have tracked. He has a very good combination of length, foot speed, athleticism, fluidity and hops. I know people tend to get fixated on his offensive potential, but I think he has the potential to be a very good defender.

You're correct, which brings us to the question of why he doesn't get more playtime. He seems to be more comfortable with the game each time we see him play doing things we want him to do (mainly drive to the basket) and has barely gotten meaningful minutes lately. People don't need to be getting 40m a game at this point, not even Kmart as far as I'm concerned unless he's going to work on using his quickness to drive to the basket more often himself
 
You're correct, which brings us to the question of why he doesn't get more playtime. He seems to be more comfortable with the game each time we see him play doing things we want him to do (mainly drive to the basket) and has barely gotten meaningful minutes lately. People don't need to be getting 40m a game at this point, not even Kmart as far as I'm concerned unless he's going to work on using his quickness to drive to the basket more often himself

I agree with you. I am farily miffed that he does not get more playing time. Normally with young players, it is because they are not dedicated on the defensive end. Greene was very raw earlier in the season, but he has been very impactful - arguably one of our better defensive players.

My best theory is that it is his offense holding him back. He's often too content to stand on the outside and chuck threes. But I agree with you this seems to be improving. I really don't see any reason he should be playing less than 15 minutes a game right now.
 
Jerry can spin and sell and shuckster all he wants, but people are finally seeing through the used car salesmanship that's been engaged in for too long around these parts.

Let's hope those "people" include MLE addict Geoff Petrie. Because if Jerry has anything to say about it, Gooden is getting signed to a five year deal tonight. It's been said that Jerry is just a silly commentator with no influence, but color me unconvinced. You can't win with a team full of $5 million players. I KNOW Jerry doesn't understand this, and I'm afraid Petrie doesn't either.
 
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