Grades v. Bobcats 01/30/10

If we had pulled this off it would have been because of?

  • Jason Thompson

    Votes: 6 7.4%
  • Kevin Martin

    Votes: 10 12.3%
  • Omri Casspi

    Votes: 7 8.6%
  • Sergio Rodriguez

    Votes: 25 30.9%
  • The Bobcats packing it in early

    Votes: 19 23.5%
  • Divine intervention

    Votes: 14 17.3%

  • Total voters
    81
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Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
A tale of three games.

A first half in which an injured Tyreke played pure distributor and Kevin ran wild. A 3rd quarter in which the Cats made adjustments and squished us, Reke was too hurt to make a difference, and Kevin found it a lot harder to get shots in the face fo extra attention. And a 3rd game int eh 4th quarter when Sergio Rodriguez and Jason Thompson, with a little help from Omri, said hey, we're still on the team too and mounted a big near-comeback against a Bobcats team that looked lik eit had packed it in early. I'm almost tempted to give out seperate grades for each game.

Boxscore

Greene ( C+ ) -- perhaps in apology for last night, racked up long minutes in this one. Missed a three courtesy of Reke kicking out of the double, good follow flush on a Kevin miss on the break, then another follow of a Kevin miss +1, but did not get the FT. Nifty long armed flip layup, but thta was it for the scoring. Still not many opportunities for anythign but garbage hoops, and when he did get one, it was normally against Gerald Wallace, who monstered us -- back to back monster games from Millsap and Wallace. Good defensive slapaway against the Charlotte break to save a hoop and create the turnover out of bounds off the Cats. Forced a 1 on 1 shot to start the third. Took a hard hit on an illegal screen that had him down for a bit, but was ok. Spent a lot of time on Wallace, who of course had the huge game. Yet really didn't think he did a bad job defensively when he was there. Wallace beat our team defense as much as Donte's, beating us out on the break, beating rotations, slipping behind screens, grabbing o-boards. Nonetheless having one of the main guys you are guarding go for 38 and 11 while you get 6 and 6 is not healthy for your grade. Played some good help defense. In the first half was able to play garbageman to give us a little offense. After half, largely invisble and could not hit his threes.

Thompson ( B- ) -- has a real gift for putting up big number games that don't feel nearly as good as the numbers, but at least in this one I knew when they were happening. Post over the smaller Wallace to start. Playing a nice all around floor game in the early going. Got another basket at the rim just before leaving in the later first quarter. Some good help defense as he returned in the second -- something that would become a welcome trend this game -- and kept it simple. Worked the boards, hustled. Had a major role to play in the semi-garbagetime comeback, and that makes this grade hard. Has worked his way up to a 4pt 10reb night by the end of the third, then through persistence more than brilliance added 8pts 6rebs in a quarter that may or may not have mattered. Didn't exactly start the quarter brilliantly, picking up an obvious offensive foul running over Gerald. Bu tcame back to hit a jumper. Blew a lyaup on the break, but got a second chance and hit it. Set a poor illegal screen. Kept playing though, and for once did it on both ends. Got some boards. A few little open jumpers, played good help defenseclosing the lane and helping the Cats stall out at 95pts. Tried to go inside and had no chance geting smushed by Gerald the same way AK47 got him last night. Grabebd a kevin miss in the final 20 seconds, got fouled...and then bricked bioth FTs. Fouled out finally on the intentional foul at the 2 second mark, because it wouldn't be a JT game if he didn't. But at least in this one he got some things done before he did. Probably a C+ type grade for the first three quarters -- better than he has been and doing a decent job of slipping into a non-scoring roleplaying role -- the key being if you are going to do that you have to defend, and he was at least trying. Then maybe a B+ in the 4th, which was either garbagetime or near big comeback depending on how you look at it. Throw in the numbers, and that mediates for a B grade, but really did not feel that good. So B- with a bullet. But also with a "better".

Hawes ( C+ ) -- nice swoop to the hoop to start, good pass to Reke. Hit Kevin on the backdoor cut as he was again having an impact with his passing. Unfortunately things were not going so well back the other way. Worked by Nazr in the high post area for 13 first half points. Nazr does not score 13pts in a half anymore, if he ever did. Tried to feed Reke out of the timeout at the 9:00 mark of the third but threw it over Reke's head. Good help defense on Felton to force the jump ball. Then a layup on the break. Good block on the other end. Was having a lot of balls tipped and slapped inside on offense for turnovers and near turnovers. Airballed a jumper. Another miss, and frankly it was too much Hawes on offense during our 3rd quarter collapse. Removed and never returned during the aborted comeback. Played pretty well on offense...right up until he quit playing pretty well on offense. Only a handful of shots of course. Defensively made another non-light (Nazr) look like a star, and so when he wasn't helping anymore on the other end, it was easy enough to shut him down for the night and smallball once again.

Martin ( B ) -- picked up right where he left off in a dynamic first half, then largely disappeared as the Bobcats closed in on him after the break. Missed his first three, hit his second, then missed another open one courtesy of Reke. Scored on the backdoor cut, out on the break for the basket+1 aga8in courtesy of Reke -- more on that under Reke's grade, but basiclaly he was hobbled and unable to move and concentrated on setting up Kevin in the first half. Dynamic first quarter, out on the break again, cherry picking as Casspi batted the ball to him for a +1. Another open three off of ball movement in the mid 2nd. Several more hits as the Charlotte zone oddly seemed designed to stop everybody but the guy scoring against them, and was up top 21pts by halftime. Left open in the corner AGAIN in the early third, and knocked down another three. But the Cats finally got the message, and with Reke basically unable to go after half, they shifted the focus to Kevin. The open looks evaporated and again and again he missed contested shots. After Reke left for the last time, almost a turnover as we tried to pass to him, then Kevin turned it over on a bad crosscourt pass. Then got a shot blocked. They squeezed, his offense collapsed. We brought Kevin back in after the backups had worked it down to 17 and he hit a few extra shots to sneak over 30 for the night. Tried to go backdoor with him on the set play, but got it blocked by Flip Murray (you read that right). Stepped in and missed another jumper in the 4th. Finally hit a three to make it 10 at the 3:47 mark. Got a blocking foul trying to draw the charge at the 1:50 mark. Beat by Murray for the FTs at the 1:20 makr. But used his speed to get back to back layuups in the last minute and cut the lead to 4. False alarm however as he was then blocked by Gerald on the play which killed our chances. Missed the desperation three in the final seconds. Big first half as the main weapon. Some late contributions to the Sergio led push. Yet took a ton of shots and was not that efficient about it by the end (11-25 on the night), had that one dimensional 2reb 1ast statline going again, and once again we failed to break 100 with Kevin out there -- we've done so only once since Kevin came back, and that was the last Charlotte game where we benched him in the 3rd.

Evans ( B- ) -- in some ways Tyreke Evans never showed up to this one, and that little factoid is important to understanding why this game went the way it did. Reke hurt his hip midway through that Utah game, and was noticeably hobbling in this one from the start, looked stiff and deadlegged in the third, and finally had to sit down for good. And what happened was that Reke turned into Rubio for a half. Unable to explode and consistently get that step on guys, Reke became an aggressive passer against the double teams the Cats were throwing at him -- doubles that probably were not necessary tonight -- and racked up 7 first half assists to only 4 points. He used the intimidation his offense causes to be as effective as a passer as a pure passing PG. And because of that Kevin was able to have one of his big scoring halves without it totally stalling us out. The difference? Kevin scored, but Reke did not. The offense can support scoring guard munching shots. Not two. Reke started this one by hitting a layup on a bounce pass from Hawes. Followed with a good pass to Kevin on the break for the layup +1, and kept on hitting Kevin agian and again in what could easily have been a 10 asist half. Was still dragging that leg, but got a steal and layup in early 2nd for the last of his points. Beat the doubles again with the pass to Udoka for a layup -- just slicing up the pressure tonight in the first half. Along with the jumper, that ability to beat a double with his passing will be the key to freeing up his inner superstar. Followed with more assists to Kevin -- 7 in the half as he had the offense humming about as well as it has since Kevin's return. Blocked a shot on defense to start the break near the end of half. Tried to score twice down the stretch of the first half, but I think just did not have the explosiveness and came up short and flat. Tried to go after half, but was jsut flat and relatrively immobile. Got nothing accomplished, and with the Cats squelching Kevin, unable to give us the normal lift out of trouble. Sat down mid quarter, and never returned. Would have to think he's questionable for Monday. Obviously way off his normal numbers, but not goign to mark him down too much here -- thought he got a lot out of what he had to work with tonight and largely helped as long as he was able.
 
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Casspi ( B- ) -- in for JT as the Cats starting two combo forwards let us smallball a lot once again. Stole a ball, got it poked away from behind on the resulting break, but recovered to bat it ahead to Kevin. Missed a side three. Then knocked one down as Reke drew the coverage again. Decent first stint, but put up most of his numbers in that long semi-garbagetime/semi-comeback thing we did in the 4th after falling down 24. the third. Finally got his first rebound in the 4th. Good move in the late 4th Back in and hit the three out of the timeout with us down 24 at the end of going reverse. Strong take +1 to make it 7 at the 2:00 mark. Like JT, piled on a lot of his minutes and stats in that 4th...and its hard to grade becaue it is hard to defein what that 4th was. Meaningless? Or inspirational? Or jsut sort of caught in between? Anyway, solid 14pt 4reb 4ast statline.

Udrih ( C- ) -- nothing in the first half again, back in the third, almost turned it over trying to get it to Kevin, then missed a little jumper. Finally hit a little jumper at the 2:00 mark of the third. Then hit a three courtesy of Sergio in the early 4th as momentum began to swing. But that was it. It was Sergio's push late, not Beno's, and its pretty clear now that superBeno is only a creature that exists with responsibility when Kevin is unavailable. Meanwhile this is back to untradebale forever contract nothing Beno.

Nocioni ( INC ) -- came in with a block, and then a hoop, then a post move as he kept his shot a minute streak going. Bad pass picked right out of his hands at the halfcourt line leading to a Cats quick breakout and conversion. Another layup as Omri found him under the rim. Forced a one on one move in the early 2nd for the brick, but recovered to poke the resulting break away form behind for a steal. And that was it. Never returned. Kind of odd given how many undeserved minutes he sometimes gets. Tonight he played better, and yet now no minutes. Maybe it was jsut an age thing -- wiht the blowout on maybe Coach just decided to give the kids minutes for experience.

Udoka ( C ) -- scored on a cut as Reke hit him for the layup. Kept pasing the corner threes but coming in for running shorter shots that weren't close. No more luck slowing Gerald than anybody else. Hit a three against the Charlotte zone. Fed by Reke, passed on the shot and got swarmed an turned it over in the late 2nd. Take the shot. Missed a three a minute later when he did just that. Ran the break well as the lead guy, dumping it to Spencer for the layup. Less effective with the roleplayer game this time.

Brockman ( D+ ) -- has really been largely ineffective since returning from the hip thing -- and now with Reke the hip ailment thing seems to be spreading on the team. Did little of note in either of his stints. Had one good o-board in the second half, but missed the follow. 12 minutes 0pts 2rebs and no significant Brockman moments.

Rodriguez ( B+ ) -- well, he did it again. Maybe not quite as good as some of his other garbagetime comeback efforts, but you can't deny the late pop. Hit a three at the end of the third to get us back to 23 down. Layup on the break. Good pass to Beno for a three. Layup to cut it to 8 at the 3:00 mark. Stripped at the 1:45 mark on the break in a costly mistake. Layup+1 to get us to within 6 at the 1:12 mark but then missed the FT. Another 9pts 5ast in basically a quarter, and another in the end pointless comeback in a semi-blowout situation. And yet the numbers game says he jsut isn't going to get to play in any other situation. How amny teams could trade 4 guards/small forwards and still say the 4 remianing were all contributors?

Notes: Flat start to the 3rd as we could not score -- both Udoka and Brock being out there together was part of that.
 
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Brickie? I think you mean Bobcats...either that, or my satellite dish is picking up a different game than the one you're about to grade.

;)

EDIT: I fixed it for you.
 
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It doesn't matter who the Kings play, they play like crap against everyone. So I say leave it as the Hornets. :p
 
starting with the bad things:
beno played horrible, when he played the bobcats lead got bigger and bigger, he played like he only thinks about himself.
hawes, udoka, greene - anemic

the good things:
evans was calm and shared the ball.
great offensive game by martin.
casspi and sergio played good, sergio managed to lead the offense because he's the only pure PG in this team, he needs to play more.

if our problem is defense our problem is mental
it's hard to play good when so much players competing on one spot, everyone's nerves because they don't want to play bad and go to the bench instead of just playing, knowing that your place is quite save

I voted for Sergio in this poll, although I'm a Casspi fan and he also played good, sergio got to play more.
 
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True, I would prefer that Sergio would play a lot more being a pure pg, although not a good shooter, he can definitely speed up the game as a run and gun offense, with his passing skills.
 
True, I would prefer that Sergio would play a lot more being a pure pg, although not a good shooter, he can definitely speed up the game as a run and gun offense, with his passing skills.
i agree the problem is, they have Beno and Tyrik and not only they are on his spot, they also very indevidual players, and let's just say they like to keep the ball for themselvs, while Sergio share his friends more, and every time he is in the game something good happen to the rest of the team.
i hope PW reads it, because what's obvious to every body else is not obvious to him.
 
i agree the problem is, they have Beno and Tyrik and not only they are on his spot, they also very indevidual players, and let's just say they like to keep the ball for themselvs, while Sergio share his friends more, and every time he is in the game something good happen to the rest of the team.
i hope PW reads it, because what's obvious to every body else is not obvious to him.
Thats complete bull****. Tyreke did nothing but set up his teammate time after time tonight. To start knocking Tyreke, and acting like he is the problem, shows your complete bias towards Sergio. Sergio is good at what he does, in a limited role, but don't start bashing the Kings best player to make your boy Sergio look better.
 
Thats complete bull****. Tyreke did nothing but set up his teammate time after time tonight. To start knocking Tyreke, and acting like he is the problem, shows your complete bias towards Sergio. Sergio is good at what he does, in a limited role, but don't start bashing the Kings best player to make your boy Sergio look better.
i am not bashing him i just say and i am sure a 100% i am right, that tyrik wich is the best player we have and is this club bright future, should pass the ball more, and playing him and sergio together is not gonna work.
you think tyrik is some kind of god, well he has a lot to improve, he will be a great player i am sure, but right now, he stll have a lot of things in his game he should improve, and one of them is passing, another one is his jump shot, look at kobe and Lebrons fade away, he should and i am sure he will do it better.
the fact is, that we only win when other players score in high numbers as well, and if you don't get it you must be blind.
 
That's not his game though. Tyreke is not a pass first PG. He is a combo guard who looks to get his own shot. I don't care how many people say him and Martin will work out, it's just not going to happen.

Been saying it since we drafted Evans, but in order for this whole thing to work we are going to have to get rid of Martin :(
 
sergio is a good point guard but other than passing... he cant offer anything else more than beno can

beno is pretty much a good solid back up pointguard at this point. his shots havent been falling though. the problem here is that the reke martin tandem has had not enough time to practice and mesh together. now we can still salvage whats left of the season via trade. a pick and a young project for martin or even JT. but look at the goods this season we arent the nets..

nets fans must be going: we need scoring! we need a solid back court we suck.

kings fans going: we need a legit bigman we need solid front court and paint defense we suck

we can remedy both sides :D
 
The problem is that you rarely see a big traded for a small. Big men have a higher value in trades just due to the rare amount of good ones, while swingmen are normally a little lowered in trade value because they're the most common type of player. The only big that is probably really available for trade and more importantly viable for being traded for a smaller player is either Al Jefferson in Minny or Boozer in Utah.
 
i am not bashing him i just say and i am sure a 100% i am right, that tyrik wich is the best player we have and is this club bright future, should pass the ball more, and playing him and sergio together is not gonna work.
you think tyrik is some kind of god, well he has a lot to improve, he will be a great player i am sure, but right now, he stll have a lot of things in his game he should improve, and one of them is passing, another one is his jump shot, look at kobe and Lebrons fade away, he should and i am sure he will do it better.
the fact is, that we only win when other players score in high numbers as well, and if you don't get it you must be blind.

Err yeah...how long as tyreke been in the league again? I mean I don't know whether to be pleased that you just compared a rookie with the two best players in the league now or to just laugh at your ignorance.
 
Err yeah...how long as tyreke been in the league again? I mean I don't know whether to be pleased that you just compared a rookie with the two best players in the league now or to just laugh at your ignorance.
what i am saying is that he should pass more now because he is not in their league yet, he is trying to be like them but he is not yet there.
get it?
 
what i am saying is that he should pass more now because he is not in their league yet, he is trying to be like them but he is not yet there.
get it?

Call me crazy, but I think giving the rookie the ball during a meaningless season to help develop his skills is the way to get the improvement that you're looking for. It's easy to work on a jump shot in practice. Getting them to fall when it counts is another thing.

Besides, I'm sure Coachie is working with him on that shot anyway. Shooting can be an easier fix than other aspects of one's game.
 
Call me crazy, but I think giving the rookie the ball during a meaningless season to help develop his skills is the way to get the improvement that you're looking for. It's easy to work on a jump shot in practice. Getting them to fall when it counts is another thing.

Besides, I'm sure Coachie is working with him on that shot anyway. Shooting can be an easier fix than other aspects of one's game.
yes but he should pass more, if every body else are frustrated, and we lose by 20, then what's the point?
there is a movie called "Goal" and there is a very talented soccer player, who use to dribbel all the time and he never pass the ball, so the coach takes him one practice to the side, and ask him if he can run from the middle of the field to the other side of the field in 3 seconeds, and he laughs and says "no", so the coach kicks the ball, and tells him "you see the ball got there in less then 3 seconeds, next time try to pass it to the other players."
you get the point?
 
i am not bashing him i just say and i am sure a 100% i am right, that tyrik wich is the best player we have and is this club bright future, should pass the ball more, and playing him and sergio together is not gonna work.
you think tyrik is some kind of god, well he has a lot to improve, he will be a great player i am sure, but right now, he stll have a lot of things in his game he should improve, and one of them is passing, another one is his jump shot, look at kobe and Lebrons fade away, he should and i am sure he will do it better.
the fact is, that we only win when other players score in high numbers as well, and if you don't get it you must be blind.
Tyreke barely has half an nba season under his belt. If I'm not mistaken he's the 2nd youngest player in the nba. He's learning howto play the toughest position in basketball. Are you going to give him a chance to develop?

I don't know what the hell your point is. He doesn't pass? Tyreke clearly passes. He's clearly improving in that area. It has nothing to do with Tyreke being a god, and that statement really makes me question how much basketball you have watched. If you had a clue how the nba works, and how Tyreke stacks up against other nba rookies, present and past, you would be much more appreciative of his talents. He is the best rookie to step on an nba court since CP3 and Lebron. Also, if you understood basketball, you would understand development, and the fact that you have to give a player much longer than half a rookie season before giving up on certain aspects of his game. Tyreke is so far ahead of the curve, that it is not possible to be an objective, knowlegeable basketball fan, and make the statemet you have made.
 
Late last night I watched the first half and went to bed behind by two points and enjoying the good game the Kings were playing.

This morning I saw the Bee first thing as usual. Kings lose by seven or so. Third quarter was lost about 34 to 13. So after breakfast I forced myself to sit down and watch the 3rd Q.

A missed shot, a turnover, a missed shot, a turnover, impatience sets in, hurried shot or turnover, again, all this is further depressing their defense, Bobcats press, Bobcats get easies on turnovers, Bobcats get easies on depressed defenders, quarter over.

Inexperience, impatience, they have to be patient to play well. As one of the posters said above, soon fear of being taken out comes into play, more of same. At this point of this season the team can't handle adversity very well which is not an unusual problem for rookies and remember most of our players, the majority, are having rookie problems.

I haven't seen the 4th Q.

Show up for the next game and try your damnedest. Go Kings.
 
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Tyreke barely has half an nba season under his belt. If I'm not mistaken he's the 2nd youngest player in the nba. He's learning howto play the toughest position in basketball. Are you going to give him a chance to develop?

I don't know what the hell your point is. He doesn't pass? Tyreke clearly passes. He's clearly improving in that area. It has nothing to do with Tyreke being a god, and that statement really makes me question how much basketball you have watched. If you had a clue how the nba works, and how Tyreke stacks up against other nba rookies, present and past, you would be much more appreciative of his talents. He is the best rookie to step on an nba court since CP3 and Lebron. Also, if you understood basketball, you would understand development, and the fact that you have to give a player much longer than half a rookie season before giving up on certain aspects of his game. Tyreke is so far ahead of the curve, that it is not possible to be an objective, knowlegeable basketball fan, and make the statemet you have made.
i don't get it?
what's the conection between what you are saying and the fact he should share the ball more with the other talented young players of this team, he can't hold the ball for 10 or 15 seconeds every time.
 
That's not his game though. Tyreke is not a pass first PG. He is a combo guard who looks to get his own shot. I don't care how many people say him and Martin will work out, it's just not going to happen.

Been saying it since we drafted Evans, but in order for this whole thing to work we are going to have to get rid of Martin :(


Gary, Tyreke had seven assists in the first half. I counted seven other passes that could have or should have been assists but someone either missed the shot, or was fouled and missed the shot. That could have been 14 assists. I didn't keep track of how many other times he passed the ball and was the pass before the pass that got the shot. He's been playing very unselfishly, and this image that people are painting of him dominating the ball is pure nonsense.
 
yes but he should pass more, if every body else are frustrated, and we lose by 20, then what's the point?
there is a movie called "Goal" and there is a very talented soccer player, who use to dribbel all the time and he never pass the ball, so the coach takes him one practice to the side, and ask him if he can run from the middle of the field to the other side of the field in 3 seconeds, and he laughs and says "no", so the coach kicks the ball, and tells him "you see the ball got there in less then 3 seconeds, next time try to pass it to the other players."
you get the point?


If you could see past your love of Sergio, you would notice that Tyreke does pass the ball a lot. Unfortunately he's surrounded by young inexperienced players that can't make shots. Or, players like Nocioni who hits about 1 out of every 4 shots he takes of late. We've got a recently turned 20 year old player, a rookie that should be a sophmore in college, thats probably going to be rookie of the year, averaging very close to 20/5/5, and you want to replace him with Sergio. I don't even know what to say to you.
 
Late last night I watched the first half and went to bed behind by two points and enjoying the good game the Kings were playing.

This morning I saw the Bee first thing as usual. Kings lose by seven or so. Third quarter was lost about 34 to 13. So after breakfast I forced myself to sit down and watch the 3rd Q.

A missed shot, a turnover, a missed shot, a turnover, impatience sets in, hurried shot or turnover, again, all this is further depressing their defense, Bobcats press, Bobcats get easies on turnovers, Bobcats get easies on depressed defenders, quarter over.

Inexperience, impatience, they have to be patient to play well. As one of the posters said above, soon fear of being taken out comes into play, more of same. At this point of this season the team can't handle adversity very well which is not an unusual problem for rookies and remember most of our players, the majority, are having rookie problems.

I haven't seen the 4th Q.

Show up for the next game and try your damnedest. Go Kings.

Unfortunately this is what young inexperienced teams do. When the other team comes out in the second half and changes up what they were doing in the first half, especially on the defensive end, you half to adjust. And you half to adjust quickly or your going to find yourself playing down by 15 or 20 points. More experienced teams have been there before and adjust quicker. Young teams don't! There are no short cuts. You don't become a brain surgeon by reading one book. And you don't become a good team in a half a season.

Back in the old days prior to the glory days. We would be playing the Celtic's with Bird, or Utah with Stockton and Malone, or the Lakers with Magic. It didn't matter. Just pick the team you want. We would be leading by 5, or maybe even by as much as 15 points going into the fourth quarter. But I knew in my heart of hearts, that at some point, the other team was going to kick it up a notch and destroy my vision of victory. Because thats what good, talented, experienced teams do. They get into your head at just the right moment, and leave you standing there wondering what just went wrong.

They get you out of your game. Put you into a panic state. Suddenly you forget about passing to the open man. You start forcing shots with 15 seconds left on the shot clock. The further you fall behind, the faster you start to play. You try to win it all by yourself. Suddenly your running out of time, and its too late to recover. Failures, can, and should be the building blocks of sucess. Thomas Edison was once asked if he was discouraged after his 5000th failed experiment on a project. He answered. No! Because I'm 5000 experiments closer to finding the answer.

Sorry, I didn't mean to go on this long about this...
 
The last team to win a title with a true past first superstar PG was the lakers with Magic. And he was surrounding with hall of famers in the starting line up. People need to get over this pass first nonsense. The NBA is about stars. And stars that make plays. Our foreign players fans are starting to get ridiculous with their posts. Jeez
 
i don't get it?
what's the conection between what you are saying and the fact he should share the ball more with the other talented young players of this team, he can't hold the ball for 10 or 15 seconeds every time.
What is the connection???
The connection between the two is that Tyreke is extremely young and inexperienced as a basketball player, yet one of the most talents 20 yr old to ever enter the league. You seem to think because he is extremely talented, he shouldn't have a chance to make mistakes and mature as a player. The fact that sometimes he does hold the ball longer than he should is a direct result of the the fact that he is young and still learning, and will be learning for years to come.

Its funny. You are not being objective in anyway, shape, or form, and you clearly have an agenda to build up Sergio and knock down Tyreke. Yet, with all your criticism of Tyreke, you haven't mentioned Segio's failure to improve on offense over 4 seasons in the nba, and the fact that Sergio can be far more careless with the ball than Tyreke. Do us all a favor and take off your blinders. We have seen the same act whether it's Peja, Beno, Hedo, or Omri. And now Sergio.
 
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If you could see past your love of Sergio, you would notice that Tyreke does pass the ball a lot. Unfortunately he's surrounded by young inexperienced players that can't make shots. Or, players like Nocioni who hits about 1 out of every 4 shots he takes of late. We've got a recently turned 20 year old player, a rookie that should be a sophmore in college, thats probably going to be rookie of the year, averaging very close to 20/5/5, and you want to replace him with Sergio. I don't even know what to say to you.
i never said i prefer sergio, i just said they can't play together!
i know what's tyrik is gonna be, and that is a super star, there is no way i would preffer sergio over him, i am just saying they can't play together, and by the way if you love basketball you have to love sergio's game.
and if you don't criticize a guy especially a young player he won't develop to be as good as he could be, because he will never know his mistakes.
beside, Beno has almost 50%, same with Casspi and Haws, and JT scores around the same fgp as tyrik (46) so why can't he pass them the ball more?
 
i never said i prefer sergio, i just said they can't play together!
i know what's tyrik is gonna be, and that is a super star, there is no way i would preffer sergio over him, i am just saying they can't play together, and by the way if you love basketball you have to love sergio's game.
and if you don't criticize a guy especially a young player he won't develop to be as good as he could be, because he will never know his mistakes.
beside, Beno has almost 50%, same with Casspi and Haws, and JT scores around the same fgp as tyrik (46) so why can't he pass them the ball more?

just drop it
 
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