[Grades] Grades v. Blazers 1/19/2015

[Big Cuz 15]

we need to pivot from the shadow of GSW.

 

[pshn80]

I think what's interesting is that we aren't necessarily playing that much faster, or turning the ball over at that much higher a rate. We just look lost on both sides of the court.

I will note that looking lost now is not a change from earlier, we looked lost then particularly when the game was on the line.n. Looked bad last year, looked bad early this year, look bad now - all of this, win or lose. The team has changed coaches, tried a different style of plat but neither has worked yet. I imagine the next moved will be to get an improved talent of some kind. Delaying doing anything has become less and less of an option. Times are tough. Meantime, there will be another game and then another. My first season ticket holder drop dead date is February 19th - my choice right now, drop dead or renew. As I say, times are tough, tougher this year than most.

 

[pshn80]

Our "Big Three"...16 turnovers...

'Tis an ongoing problem. Work on it. A solution would help a lot.

 

[kupman]

I will note that looking lost now is not a change from earlier, we looked lost then particularly when the game was on the line.n. Looked bad last year, looked bad early this year, look bad now - all of this, win or lose. The team has changed coaches, tried a different style of plat but neither has worked yet. I imagine the next moved will be to get an improved talent of some kind. Delaying doing anything has become less and less of an option. Times are tough. Meantime, there will be another game and then another. My first season ticket holder drop dead date is February 19th - my choice right now, drop dead or renew. As I say, times are tough, tougher this year than most.

Well stated.

I will also add that while I think it is commendable to give Corbin a fair shot at coaching this team, I do not think that the FO will put up with looking lost and losing with him very long either. The FO is aggressive and not willing to put up with a "losing culture."

I hope that the improved talent includes a sharp shooter. I think one could make a really big difference for this team. We have drafted poorly in this area of recent and it is really hurting us right now.

As the roster sits right now, I think that if a season went very smoothly (as in very few missed games due to injury) we could win slightly more than 40 games - maybe.

 

[Sac.Kings]

we need to pivot from the shadow of GSW.

Only thing pivoting is the fan base... right in the opposite direction.

 

[Padrino]

Well stated.

I will also add that while I think it is commendable to give Corbin a fair shot at coaching this team, I do not think that the FO will put up with looking lost and losing with him very long either. The FO is aggressive and not willing to put up with a "losing culture."

I hope that the improved talent includes a sharp shooter. I think one could make a really big difference for this team. We have drafted poorly in this area of recent and it is really hurting us right now.

As the roster sits right now, I think that if a season went very smoothly (as in very few missed games due to injury) we could win slightly more than 40 games - maybe.

curiously enough, they also don't seem willing to put up with a "winning culture," either, as pete d'allesandro has been quoted as saying that he wouldn't have cared if the kings had won quite a lot of games in the early portion of the season, he still would have fired michael malone. that said, i question the front office's priorities, and i honestly do not believe that they will deviate from their stated plan to allow corbin to coach the rest of the season; they either think that corbin is a much better coach than he actually is, or that some of the players they've acquired are much better than they actually are, or they're intentionally trying to lose enough games so that they're able to hold onto their 2015 first rounder...

beyond that, who would they hire in corbin's place, at this point? if they had wanted george karl, he would be the head coach of the kings already. the same goes for mark jackson, i have to imagine. i mean, if you're absolutely sold on any of the available head coaching candidates, you don't give tyrone effing corbin a "fair shot" instead of hiring a coach who represents a clear upgrade--though i'm not that wild about jackson, personally, and i'd only be interested in seeing karl hired because he seems the best able to satisfy the new regime's "vision" for this team (a vision that i'm not particularly fond of). but since no serious contact was made with any potential candidate outside of the organization, the kings' front office is clearly not as interested in the available candidates as conventional wisdom would otherwise dictate...

i am, admittedly, rather nervous that the front office intends to install chris mullin as head coach in the off-season, because it seems like the kind of move that vivek has been waiting for an excuse to make, but i honestly think the new regime is just waiting to see how the coaching landscape will be affected by further mid-season/end-of-season firings. a guy like david blatt may become available, and someone like blatt could very well appeal to the front office's vision. or they may try to poach someone like alvin gentry away from his current post, believing that they can smooth over any existing tension by offering a readily available head coaching position, rather than the potentially vacant head coaching position that gentry was so wary of when the kings attempted to hire him as an assistant. ultimately, who knows?

it could be that the kings eventually hire a head coach that most fans are satisfied by (and what a relief that would be), but no matter who ends up filling the job in the long-term, i remain perturbed by the front office's seeming intention to throw away the 2014-2015 season, as well as another year of demarcus cousins' prime. it just doesn't sit well with me at all, not when things began on such a strong note...

 

[kingsboi]

Cousins has been a turnover machine....he has some really questionable decision making out there with no coach to hold him accountable for it. Collison on numerous occasions has tried to drive on 2-3 defenders back with no help behind him, once again...no accountability. Gay plays only one side of the ball. Yada yada yada same old story we've been talking about.

 

[pshn80]

Cousins has been a turnover machine....he has some really questionable decision making out there with no coach to hold him accountable for it. Collison on numerous occasions has tried to drive on 2-3 defenders back with no help behind him, once again...no accountability. Gay plays only one side of the ball. Yada yada yada same old story we've been talking about.

None of what you say is true. All of what you say is true. Now where should we start on an improvement plan? That's our rub. Don't have the answer myself. It used to be that the idea of trading of Cuz was absurd. Looking for ideas that might float or that we might expect from an informed and insightful team.

 

[Bricklayer]

It used to be that the idea of trading of Cuz was absurd.

The idea is now more absurd than the idea of trading perhaps any King in history, sans perhaps Webber in our peak years. Which some fools suggested as well.

The really sad part is that I could absolutely fix this franchise, within 2 years of being given dictatorial powers over it. It wouldn't even be that complex. The path is so very clear if you understand the league. For nearly a decade this franchise has turned a relatively simple game into quantum physics. Ignorance, ego, agendas, poverty, dishonesty...they've all played a part. But it is NOT this hard. Not remotely.

 

[Glenn]

Cuz isn't perfect but I get a bit irked when the focus is on the negative. Don't people know what an athlete he is and that he is still young? Wait until he polishes up his game.

 

[Glenn]

The idea is now more absurd than the idea of trading perhaps any King in history, sans perhaps Webber in our peak years. Which some fools suggested as well.

The really sad part is that I could absolutely fix this franchise, within 2 years of being given dictatorial powers over it. It wouldn't even be that complex. The path is so very clear if you understand the league. For nearly a decade this franchise has turned a relatively simple game into quantum physics. Ignorance, ego, agendas, poverty, dishonesty...they've all played a part. But it is NOT this hard. Not remotely.

Yup. I am not sure what to make of he Maloofs as they were going broke but the last year and a half has been mindboggling. Even I could straighten it out but I might do better as your agent.

 

[pshn80]

The idea is now more absurd than the idea of trading perhaps any King in history, sans perhaps Webber in our peak years. Which some fools suggested as well.

The really sad part is that I could absolutely fix this franchise, within 2 years of being given dictatorial powers over it. It wouldn't even be that complex. The path is so very clear if you understand the league. For nearly a decade this franchise has turned a relatively simple game into quantum physics. Ignorance, ego, agendas, poverty, dishonesty...they've all played a part. But it is NOT this hard. Not remotely.

It's encouraging that you could turn it around in two years. If you can, the franchise can. The reason I mentioned Cuz is to emphasize that I haven't heard reasonable, effective alternatives, just b*******. Please forgive me if I'm not with your program but, what is your program or anyone else's. Whatever it is it has to start today.

 

[ArcoKings]

Yes, the call against DMC was a terrible call but that is not the reason the Kings lost. The T.O.s are killing the team. They constantly make bad plays. The opposing team, no matter who that is, seems to capitalize on the Kings' mistakes each time. The Corbin system is just not suited for the team's abilities. The players aren't comfortable with the system. They're lost. Ever since Corbin took over the defense has taken a dive. Corbin is not a coach and he certainly isn't a teacher. The team may not even win as many games as last season.

Thank you F.O. for wrecking a promising season.