Grades v. Blazers 02/27

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Bricklayer

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Artest ( C- ) -- this was an easy win tonight, and yet remarkably had very little to do with Ron being on the court other than perhaps the confidence he inspires. In fact the only thing really bolstering this grade is the number of shots he created for others. Because Ron himself got off to a slow start beyond one nice open court steal, was having problems with that shot again, and his decisionmaking was just...off. He never looked really comfortable out there, and the Blazers are one of those teams where there's nobody even worthy of getting too excited about as a defender. In some ways I have to put a little ? over this performance and see how things develop. The "?" is this: we had a few days off here and apparently tried to put in some things offensively to get Ron within a structure. Well...one game results were not promising. As a team we scored a lot. But then again this is Portland and I'm pretty sure Coachie scored at least one hoop in there just by accident. But Ron himself looked uncomfortable, and like he was trying to play a role that maybe isn't a comfortable fit. Lot of outside shots, lot of passes. Random shooting. Kind of an uninspired effort. Hope it gets better.
Thomas ( A- ) -- very active start keeping balls alive on the offensive glass, and in a short outing tonight managed to rack up a double double in only 25 min. Blazers just had nobody at all on the glass, and having energy alone was more than enough for Kenny to beat every blackshirt to ball after ball. No real complaints about this outing at all.
Miller ( A- ) -- Freed from the terror that is Wiltzilla, Brad had himself a strong game. Made some all around contributions early, but the shot was off. But it was really Brad who stepped forward just before half to help us build a nearly unassailable lead with a series of butt ugly scrappy "drives" and then a three pointer from the corner to close the half. And he really wasn't needed much therafter as we quickly built the lead up to more than the Blazers score in most halves. An ugly near triple double, but the numbers don't lie, and he did it in less than 30min. A man amongst (in many cases literally) boys in there, and only Skinner taking it to him at the other end as a negative.
Martin ( HOME ) -- I think its time to stop the letter grades with Kevin. Time to just start grading Kevin as either "Home" or "Away". :D Came out with a big first quarter flurry for 13 points, many of them on dunks and layups in the open court. Slowed down thereafter, but was still getting open looks, easy breakouts, right until the end. And the energy was there of course -- hit the glass, was disrupting the incredibly sloppy Blazers passing. If he were still on a letter scale an easy A, and tying his career mark once again at home.
Bibby ( B- ) -- pretty good start getting open looks against the various Blazers scrub-worthy PGs. But never at any point really controlling the game, and seemed to be somehow making a scrappy effort out of a gamelong blowout. Got a good number of assists, and as is so often the case in Kevin's good games, it was Mike making a number of the passes. Steve Blake was lighting us up there for a while as well, although I think that sometimes he may have been Kevin's man too -- he was open enough to leave doubt. In any case, for a lot of our players this game seemed all too easy, and the crowd reacted that way as well. But Mike was scraping and scrapping and at least looked like he was having to work hard for modest results in a complete wipeout.
Reef ( B+ ) -- came in with energy, and while early results were modest, he closed his time with a flurry. Another prolific outing off of the bench, and only held down by his having problems finishing around the hoop. An interesting question with all of this: Reef has been far more aggressive here in the last few weeks than he ever was early in the year. So 1) is he feeling freer to just score off the bench wihtout the competitors? And hence is suited for the 6th man role?; or 2) Is he playing inspired ball just trying to get his starting job back but would return to passivity once he got the spot? or 3) Has Ron Artest managed to inspire the unlikliest lowest-key member of the Kings? or... Its very pronounced. But the root cause is unclear.
Garcia ( B ) -- chipped in with his own normal energy on a night whenh we had a lot and the Blazers had none. Had his normal shooting woes, but got on the glass, made some of his fun hustle plays and open court blocks. A 3-9 performance, but his energy fit right in with Kevin, Kenny, Reef as we just beat the Blazers to every loose ball.
Corliss ( B- ) -- Got to play the entire 4th quarter of the blowout. And while its kind of sad to see Corliss out there reduced to babysitting a bunch of kids, scrubs, and brand new players, he showed some leadership as well as some modest oncourt contributions, including his second three in the last few weeks as Rick has finally cured him of that nasty post play habit. :rolleyes:
Price ( INC ) -- actually got into the game before Hart and looked pretty good in his minutes
Sampson ( INC ) -- an unusally long garbagetime stint for him (3 minutes!) in which he decided to play Chris Webber and go crazy with the assists ( had 3 -- 1 per minute!). Continues to look a little awkward on the court.
Hart ( INC ) -- for this one at least, dropped all the way behind even Price in the garbagetime cue, although maybe only to get the kid a few extra minues of work. Hit a baseline jumper off of one of those oh-so-sweet Samposn feeds.
Potapenko ( INC ) -- got in for the last few minutes of garbagetime and the poor guy just looked lost. Corliss did try to get him a bucket at one point by calling him over into the post and trying to feed him. Unfortunatelyt the two Kings failed to note that the guy Pot was trying to post, Seung-Jin is 7'3". :eek: Anyway, he briefly made it onto the court, but I'd hardly call this a first appearance for him.

Adelman ( ) -- coming

Skinner ( A- ) -- came out and in one of those visiting players wanting to show their old team moves, scored all over us. Did not rebound or defend as well as the Blazers needed, but dropped 17 points on us and at one point was clearly the dominant offensive player on the floor with an assortment of simple but effective moves.
 
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While his scoring is up and down still, Artest's defense is there and was tonight on Miles constantly (other than a couple times early on). Also loved his assists. I'd say C+/B-.
 
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Martin ( HOME ) -- I think its time to stop the letter grades with Kevin. Time to just start grading Kevin as either "Home" or "Away".

Um....wouldn't this little barb aply to the whole team?????? I'm REALLY struggling to think which of them plays well on the road right now. Seems a little lop-sided to downplay what Kevin did just because it was at home.
The whole TEAM plays differently on the road, I'm sure you have noticed that the flow, the ball movement, the spacing and the looks each player get are TOTALLY different when this team hits the road. I submit that if the TEAM focuses more on playing team ball on the road, and puts aside the "I've got to shoot because I have the ball" mentality we might see more high assist, gee, this game is fun, type outings away from home.
 
Kingsgurl said:
Um....wouldn't this little barb aply to the whole team?????? I'm REALLY struggling to think which of them plays well on the road right now. Seems a little lop-sided to downplay what Kevin did just because it was at home.
The whole TEAM plays differently on the road, I'm sure you have noticed that the flow, the ball movement, the spacing and the looks each player get are TOTALLY different when this team hits the road. I submit that if the TEAM focuses more on playing team ball on the road, and puts aside the "I've got to shoot because I have the ball" mentality we might see more high assist, gee, this game is fun, type outings away from home.

You know as well as I do that that's not really true. The team plays better at home, as most middling teams do. But the Kevin thing is unique and striking in its severity. And as an aside its not particulalry a barb when half the time he plays like a star. Its just unfortunate (...or maybe fortunate?) that I know exactly when that half is going to be. Not like he's inconsistent.

Kevin at home:
.532 FG%, .458 3pt%
Kevin on road:
.426 FG%, .294 3pt%

Two entirely different players.
 
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I would give an A+ for Skinner too =P. I feel very glad he has found his place in Portland.

And I like the way Brick is grading Ron....if he is our best player, he needs to be graded by the best players' standard as well.

Hope he can figure out the offense as soon as possible.
 
bcfy said:
I would give an A+ for Skinner too =P. I feel very glad he has found his place in Portland.

And I like the way Brick is grading Ron....if he is our best player, he needs to be graded by the best players' standard as well.

Hope he can figure out the offense as soon as possible.

That was the curious thing -- even in some of his other down performances, Ron has still been our "best player" -- clearly the straw. But tonight that best player/tone-setter was probably Kevin (or maybe Brad there for a bit). Like I say, I want to see what happens next game.
 
Bricklayer said:
But the Kevin thing is unique and striking in its severity. And as an aside its not particulalry a barb when half the time he plays like a star. Its just unfortunate (...or maybe fortunate?) that I know exactly when that half is going to be.

Really???

Since Kevin has been starting, he has shot 50% or better from the field in 7 of the 16 Kings road games. Just about half.

That's pretty good if you KNOW which road games he's going to shoot 50% or better and which ones he won't. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Almost all players fall off in shooting percentage on the road versus how they do at home. It's easy to prey on Kevin's delta on the road because he has kicked some serious *** at home which few guards in the NBA can touch and has led him to be currently the most productive scorer in the league.

Whatever...

Keep the backhanded compliments and grades coming.

Just another ho-hum career scoring night for Kevin.

Grade = A (no qualifiers) :rolleyes:

15-4 ... Kings record when Kevin scores 14 or more points.

11-1 ... Kings record when Kevin scores 20 or more points.
 
Ah..1kingz, back to bask in some more of somebody else's glory again?


Well in case I missed it earlier -- congratulations! You played a helluva game out there tonight. :rolleyes:
 
Bricklayer said:
Ah..1kingz, back to bask in some more of somebody else's glory again?

Wow!

I thought that's what fans did here each and every day! :D

Actually, I'm just back to counter your anti-basking every time Kevin does well. ;)


Bricklayer said:
Well in case I missed it earlier -- congratulations! You played a helluva game out there tonight. :rolleyes:

Oh my freakin' Gawd....good night, sir... :rolleyes:
 
1kingzfan said:
Actually, I'm just back to counter your anti-basking every time Kevin does well. ;)

I realize that I may be missing something, but I haven't seen a single comment intending to take away from the great game that Kevin had last night.

The difference between the way he performs at home and on the road is tremendous. I'm sure that there are several reasons for this difference -- comfort level, defensive pressure, fans, confidence -- these are all legitimate explanations. But, the difference is there nonetheless and I don't see how pointing that out, while still acknowledging his role in last night's win, could be considered even close to "anti-basking."

Kevin is shaping up to be a very good player, and he seems like a genuinely good kid. But, the change in comfort/confidence between home Kevin and road Kevin is very real.
 
Well, all kidding aside, I look forward to reading Brick's grades and now, as far as Kevin is concerned, have nothing to look forward to but Home or Away, it kind of takes the drama out of it:D Will there be like Away+ or Away- at least?

And Skinner gets an A. :D
 
Bricklayer said:
Artest ( C- ) -- this was an easy win tonight, and yet remarkably had very little to do with Ron being on the court other than perhaps the confidence he inspires. In fact the only thing really bolstering this grade is the number of shots he created for others. Because Ron himself got off to a slow start beyond one nice open court steal, was having problems with that shot again, and his decisionmaking was just...off. He never looked really comfortable out there, and the Blazers are one of those teams where there's nobody even worthy of getting too excited about as a defender. In some ways I have to put a little ? over this performance and see how things develop. The "?" is this: we had a few days off here and apparently tried to put in some things offensively to get Ron within a structure. Well...one game results were not promising. As a team we scored a lot. But then again this is Portland and I'm pretty sure Coachie scored at least one hoop in there just by accident. But Ron himself looked uncomfortable, and like he was trying to play a role that maybe isn't a comfortable fit. Lot of outside shots, lot of passes. Random shooting. Kind of an uninspired effort. Hope it gets better.

Even though he is still struggling to fit in and the team is struggling to fit him in, I think you can begin to see the offense flowing better. It's his shot he's struggling with, but I think some of that is the rust. Once he gets his shot down, the offense will really pick up.

NOTE: Edited simply to correct quote...VF21
 
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profit said:
Even though he is still struggling to fit in and the team is struggling to fit him in, I think you can begin to see the offense flowing better. It's his shot he's struggling with, but I think some of that is the rust. Once he gets his shot down, the offense will really pick up.

Well, on his behalf, with him trying to dominate the offense by taking 17-20 shots every game ... the offense couldn't get any worse with him hitting his shots.
 
I'm a little worried about Ron. Early on, you could see him getting winded and see that his conditioning was just a little off. He's got his wind now, but I think I'm seeing signs of fatigue. It's hard to use 38mpg of NBA basketball as a way to get back into tip-top shape. Ron is the type of guy that is going to push himself no matter what and play as long as the coach wants him to play. Doing this much immediately after having sat out most of the past year is risky.

That's what I saw last night from Ron, a guy who looks like he's got tired legs. He wants to do things a certain way, but the legs are saying "no way!". He'll either break through it soon and the jumpshot will get more consistent, or he'll get some type of chronic muscle strain or tendonitits that'll bother him for the rest of the season.
 
Well, he's also voluntarily staying after practices to engage other guys on one-on-one play, so I don't know if he's all that fatuiged....
 
1kingzfan said:
Really???

Since Kevin has been starting, he has shot 50% or better from the field in 7 of the 16 Kings road games. Just about half.

That's pretty good if you KNOW which road games he's going to shoot 50% or better and which ones he won't. :rolleyes:

Almost all players fall off in shooting percentage on the road versus how they do at home. It's easy to prey on Kevin's delta on the road because he has kicked some serious *** at home which few guards in the NBA can touch and has led him to be currently the most productive scorer in the league.

Whatever...

Keep the backhanded compliments and grades coming.

Just another ho-hum career scoring night for Kevin.

Grade = A (no qualifiers) :rolleyes:

15-4 ... Kings record when Kevin scores 14 or more points.

11-1 ... Kings record when Kevin scores 20 or more points.

Oh please...

While I may not agree with the concept of assigning Kevin simply a HOME - indicating superior performance - instead of a grade, I certainly see no need for the condescending attitude. Brick started the grade thread, he created the whole thing. If he wants to start assigning players numeric ratings or describe them as vegetables, it should be his choice.

You can talk about Kevin and his performance (which was again pretty blasted good) without sounding like one of the old Hedo homers come back to life...

:rolleyes:
 
Kingsgurl said:
Well, all kidding aside, I look forward to reading Brick's grades and now, as far as Kevin is concerned, have nothing to look forward to but Home or Away, it kind of takes the drama out of it:D Will there be like Away+ or Away- at least?

And Skinner gets an A. :D

Priceless, my dear KG.

I love it!!!
 
Warhawk said:
Well, he's also voluntarily staying after practices to engage other guys on one-on-one play, so I don't know if he's all that fatuiged....

Well, he's going to go all out no matter what. The fact that he's putting in 38mpg of work, spending time after practices and even after games is pretty good evidence that at this stage if you're talking about how he doesn't have his "game legs" yet, it's fatigue and not an issue of his conditioning still needing work. I think his heart is strong enough, but his muscles could be getting to the point of being overworked.
 
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