Grade the pick!

Grade the pick

  • A

    Votes: 46 44.2%
  • B

    Votes: 34 32.7%
  • C

    Votes: 16 15.4%
  • D

    Votes: 2 1.9%
  • E

    Votes: 4 3.8%
  • F

    Votes: 2 1.9%

  • Total voters
    104
  • Poll closed .
Passing on Doncic I think was a mistake, because having the best perimeter players in the NBA is what wins big in NBA 3.0.

Doncic would have changed the culture of the team with his unselfishness and court vision. :(

But, I won't hold that against Bagley, because I think he will be a very good player in the NBA too, he could be the Alpha Scorer we need. I think he will be a 20 points & 10 rebounds a game player for a very long time.

Bagley definitely has a great chance to put up the best individual numbers of all the players selected in this draft.

Bagley as a player and a talent, I give the pick an A. :)
 
Going into the draft, my impression of Bagley has been bigger Kenneth Faried. Maybe a bit more ball handling, but not a particularly skilled player. I also would like to hope that we have our frontcourt set with Giles and Skal (hopeful that Skal has a breakout year). As such, was rather disappointed and if you asked me pre draft I wouldn't foresee Marvin as an all star level player. But I can understand the potential of having a big who can run, and unlike someone else sounds like he has a great work ethic and motor. He was also a consensus top pick, so it's not like it was a reach or anything. My take is that the FO was swayed by comfort from having seen him workout, from the purported chemistry with Fox and Giles, and the hesitation to take the ball out of Fox's hands were they to draft Doncic.

I give it a B.
Pretty much this. I gave it a B for every reason you stated, and hope to be proven wrong rather quickly. I wanna give it an A+
 
The top of my board had Ayton as #1, Bagley as #2A, and Doncic as #2B after I spent some time researching the Slovenian sensation. Since Phoenix was never likely to pass on Ayton, I figured I would be happy with either Bagley or Doncic. I don't see either of them as can't-miss prospects, but I like enough about both of their games to be very excited to see how they develop for the Kings and the Mavs.

That said, part of me does honestly wonder about the wisdom of picking either Ayton or Bagley at the top of the draft, given the holes in their respective games and the shape of the modern NBA. I'm still stuck favoring players like that when I probably shouldn't. Is it more wise to take a wing player who could be transcendent despite his athletic shortcomings? It does seem like the rules and the refs and the analytics of the three-pointer have made it much easier for guards and wings to achieve stardom, whereas big men have to fight an uphill battle with no guarantee that they will have a winning impact on their teams. I like Bagley a lot, but he's not going to have an easy path to stardom. Somebody like Trae Young could turn out to be the best pick of the draft, and it won't be because Ayton or Bagley aren't gifted in their own right; it might just be that it's easier for a player like Young to succeed in the modern NBA.

Because of these concerns, I'd probably give the Kings a B+ (as if it matters). I'm genuinely bothered by the fact that players like Ayton and Bagley aren't the sure things they would have been in a different era. It seems unfortunate that the game has marginalized so many talented bigs by making their pathway to success so narrow. You have to be tall, long, and quick. You have to be able to face-up and make plays. You have to be able to protect the rim and shoot the three. You're expected to be the last line of defense and you'll have to show out on smaller players above the arc. You've got to rebound well, too, and sometimes you'll still need to post-up on top of all that. It's no wonder teams are frequently only putting one big out on the floor at any given moment. There are only a handful of players who can actually satisfy all of these requirements.

But hey, what do I know? NBA fans seem to love the way the game has evolved, and judging by Adam Silver's glee over the number of three's taken last season, I'd guess it's not about to change anytime soon. I'm hoping the best for Bagley, but I have more doubts today than I did before the night of the draft lottery.
 
C, because Luka will be a bigger star and you should draft the best talent. There is a reason why he is Euroleague MVP at 19. He's already shown he can be a leader, perform at the big stage and hit big shots. Great all around player and plays SG/SF, which is a position that has higher value in today's NBA.

Bagley may be a good player, but there have been many 20/10 guys through out history and some influence the game much more than others. Which one will he be?
 
The top of my board had Ayton as #1, Bagley as #2A, and Doncic as #2B after I spent some time researching the Slovenian sensation. Since Phoenix was never likely to pass on Ayton, I figured I would be happy with either Bagley or Doncic. I don't see either of them as can't-miss prospects, but I like enough about both of their games to be very excited to see how they develop for the Kings and the Mavs.

That said, part of me does honestly wonder about the wisdom of picking either Ayton or Bagley at the top of the draft, given the holes in their respective games and the shape of the modern NBA. I'm still stuck favoring players like that when I probably shouldn't. Is it more wise to take a wing player who could be transcendent despite his athletic shortcomings? It does seem like the rules and the refs and the analytics of the three-pointer have made it much easier for guards and wings to achieve stardom, whereas big men have to fight an uphill battle with no guarantee that they will have a winning impact on their teams. I like Bagley a lot, but he's not going to have an easy path to stardom. Somebody like Trae Young could turn out to be the best pick of the draft, and it won't be because Ayton or Bagley aren't gifted in their own right; it might just be that it's easier for a player like Young to succeed in the modern NBA.

Because of these concerns, I'd probably give the Kings a B+ (as if it matters). I'm genuinely bothered by the fact that players like Ayton and Bagley aren't the sure things they would have been in a different era. It seems unfortunate that the game has marginalized so many talented bigs by making their pathway to success so narrow. You have to be tall, long, and quick. You have to be able to face-up and make plays. You have to be able to protect the rim and shoot the three. You're expected to be the last line of defense and you'll have to show out on smaller players above the arc. You've got to rebound well, too, and sometimes you'll still need to post-up on top of all that. It's no wonder teams are frequently only putting one big out on the floor at any given moment. There are only a handful of players who can actually satisfy all of these requirements.

But hey, what do I know? NBA fans seem to love the way the game has evolved, and judging by Adam Silver's glee over the number of three's taken last season, I'd guess it's not about to change anytime soon. I'm hoping the best for Bagley, but I have more doubts today than I did before the night of the draft lottery.
Excellent post. I feel the same way. I’m pumped about Bagley as a prospect, but at the same time realize the game has evolved to such a point that he may not really matter. I really hope 2020’s NBA is more like 2000 than 2018, but I have my doubts.