Grade our draft
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If you look at a team like GS (yeah yeah), they were going to lose KG so they took on a crap ton of money for a player that really had no business on the team just so they could use it as a future asset despite being a repeat luxury offender. To that end cutting players under contract and losing their cap value makes absolutely zero sense. Look at what the Lakers have done despite having some very high end all NBA talent, they have zero dollars to spend on the other 9 players that make up a game day lineup.
I get that Monte's approach isn't going to win over hungry fans but it's really about avoiding the pitfalls that got us where we are in the first place.
I get that Monte's approach isn't going to win over hungry fans but it's really about avoiding the pitfalls that got us where we are in the first place.
That's kind of my hope next season and if the Kings are better or worse than intended hopefully maximizing them at the deadline. And if that were the case then there was literally no reason not to take a shot on 37 since they are intending to basically come in the same next season with Murray as the one change. I'm not sure that's the case however. I was interested to see if Monte went trade value in the draft and/or attempted to make a big move. He didn't, he wanted Murray above all else which completely limited his trade options and I doubt the intentions will be to make a splash using Murray/Mitchell/picks at the deadline. It's probably not even an option at this point. Since that were the case it might actually make more sense to use that MLE this summer on a win now guy, in particular at SG. I know there's been smoke about their interest in Oladipo this summer. That could make sense but would obviously involve some sweet talking and a starting role. I wouldn't mind it. They'll still have some space next summer although likely not full max.
I read somewhere that Sasha's Euro contract is for $900K per year with NBA opt outs in 2022 and 2023.
I don't think it would be unreasonable for the Kings to use part of their MLE to sign Sasha to something like a $7 million/3 year contract. That should be enough to lure him over to give the NBA a try. If it doesn't work out, he made an extra $5 million and can return home to continue in the Euro league career.
I don't think it would be unreasonable for the Kings to use part of their MLE to sign Sasha to something like a $7 million/3 year contract. That should be enough to lure him over to give the NBA a try. If it doesn't work out, he made an extra $5 million and can return home to continue in the Euro league career.
B.. .I am glad we didn't take Ivey unless we were trading him or trading Fox. But our team still sucks, and is no fun to watch at the moment. We have core players who seem to always be out half of every season so I am not sure why we are trying to build around players that are always out half the season. It's kind of stupid imo but oh well.
I don’t mind the Murray pick. He fits really well with Fox and Sabonis. He is a mature kid, quiet, hardowrking. He was up against it from the start but he went from untanked to one of the best kids in his draft class. He is that 4/3 with a sweet shot. I think with his work ethic and mature head, he will be in this league for a very long time. I think his ceiling is higher thanmany think.
In the medium to long term, I see a better defending Tobias Harris and to me thats a pretty darn good player. I quite like the pick.
I like the trade with CLE. Whether we get the plYer to come over or not is debatable but you never know.
Pick 37 I don’t get. That should have been swing for the fences move and if you are really worried about roster spots, its a great spot to draft and stash. There are many young kids in Europe that will play in the NBA in 3-5 years time. Draft one and let them develop over there. That was basically giving away a very good pick for sweet bugger all!
This team stillhas a LOT of work to do!
In the medium to long term, I see a better defending Tobias Harris and to me thats a pretty darn good player. I quite like the pick.
I like the trade with CLE. Whether we get the plYer to come over or not is debatable but you never know.
Pick 37 I don’t get. That should have been swing for the fences move and if you are really worried about roster spots, its a great spot to draft and stash. There are many young kids in Europe that will play in the NBA in 3-5 years time. Draft one and let them develop over there. That was basically giving away a very good pick for sweet bugger all!
This team stillhas a LOT of work to do!
I gave it an A. I was on the Murray side though for awhile. Turned 37 into 2 seconds and he uses those seconds in trades.
If we took Ivey I probably would have given that an A as well tbh. But I was also of the opinion that both Murray and Ivey were in a tier together but fit wise, Murray brings so many things we needed. And the potential influx of wings is great. Ivey would have compounded a problem we previously had with Haliburton and cost this team a half year to year before moving someone like Sabonis.
Really excited to see Murray cutting and receiving passes from Sabonis.
If we took Ivey I probably would have given that an A as well tbh. But I was also of the opinion that both Murray and Ivey were in a tier together but fit wise, Murray brings so many things we needed. And the potential influx of wings is great. Ivey would have compounded a problem we previously had with Haliburton and cost this team a half year to year before moving someone like Sabonis.
Really excited to see Murray cutting and receiving passes from Sabonis.
I’m fine with the Murray pick. Right now it’s a solid B. It’s not sexy, but I think that’s partly just because of the pre draft hype train around Ivey and dreams of unrealistic trades that I think most of us had (myself included). The only one I’ve heard that seemed likely to be on the table was 6 and Duarte from the Pacers. So would I rather have Duarte and Matherin/Daniels/Sochan or Murray? I’m not convinced Duarte is ever much better than the player we saw the first half of his rookie year….which was a nice but unspectacular player. I could make a case for Matherin/Daniels/Sochan ending up better than Murray in 3 years, but I would prefer the bet on Murray. Further, if I take it to the next logical step and think if we have Duarte, do we likely let Daunte leave in free agency? That all seems like a wash and you’re coming out of draft day without the prospect you had rated highest.
So, I guess what I’m saying is I think Monte played it as I would have, it’s just the Murray pick ends up being “Meh” after initial high expectations. Picking Ivey would have filled me with hopes of being everyone’s league pass darling, but definitely was a worse fit, they aren’t as good next year, and I’m not convinced he’s ever a significantly better player than Murray will be.
Trading the 37th pick was really what ticked me off more than anything. In 3 years that’s probably a nothingburger, but good teams pick players in the second round and try to develop them. I don’t care if it was Hardy or someone else.
So, I guess what I’m saying is I think Monte played it as I would have, it’s just the Murray pick ends up being “Meh” after initial high expectations. Picking Ivey would have filled me with hopes of being everyone’s league pass darling, but definitely was a worse fit, they aren’t as good next year, and I’m not convinced he’s ever a significantly better player than Murray will be.
Trading the 37th pick was really what ticked me off more than anything. In 3 years that’s probably a nothingburger, but good teams pick players in the second round and try to develop them. I don’t care if it was Hardy or someone else.
I always love the morning after draft grades. Without 1 min of actual NBA playtime to draw on writers substitute conjecture and rely on a "consensus" generated by a bunch of writers mostly cribbing notes from other writers. To then attempt to critically evaluate the picks based upon which general managers did what they thought they would do or did not take the player they thought they should take. And call them winners or losers for matching the opinion that they had borrowed before the draft themselves.
I mean, I think if we picked Ivey that would of been more like picking Bagley over Doncic. With Bagley, we picked the hyper athlete with a lot of supposed "potential."The stuff they said about Doncic is the same stuff they are saying about Murray. Now I don't think Murray will be Doncic, but a high iq player that does every well is often overlooked.
I’m really happy with Murray but disappointed in the second round sell off. We have to start developing some younger pieces so that if we ever get to the playoffs we have some assets to trade for a bigger piece. Right now it’s just Queta and maybe Metu if he ever finds consistency. Maybe we will do more of that starting next year.