Grade our draft
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Jechtsphere
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I like all our picks, I really like that we are trying to become a tougher team...in a way that was one of our biggest needs.
You people have no vision at all...
Rubio goes back to Europe. Minnesota decides to sell his rights since he's not going to come to America and we pick them up cheap. Then, next year we bring him over.
Nighthawk1
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Well lets make him feel better, figure out a trade GP! Lets see if the Twolves are willing to take some immediate value
Petrie's fault? How is Geoff (who took the player he thought was best) to blame for Rubio not wanting to play in Minnesota? Quite frankly I don't think it's a bad thing for Ricky to stay in Europe for while. He's not ready for the NBA right now.
KingGiant49erFan
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Yeah if people are hating on this draft they will hate on any draft. I understand and share the disappointment in not getting Ricky, but if I were to tell you yesterday that we would come out of this draft with Evans, Casspi, and Spanish Chocolate I'd imagine most of the board would be very happy.
Entity
Hall of Famer
Section 101
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So a kid who has been playing professional for 4 years and started in the Olympics is not ready, but a kid the same age with 1 year of college is ready?
Section 101
All-Star
Ya, we got the driver of the shooter instead.
Where did I say that Evans was ready? I don't know that. He certainly has to improve his shot and I'm not convinced that he's a PG on the NBA level.
Rubio was my favorite player in this draft, but I've said all along that I don't think he's ready for the NBA. If you watch him play he is incredibly aggressive as an onball defender. Not only will that result in NBA guards blowing past him, but he'll rack up reach in fouls until he adjusts. His biggest skill in the halfcourt is his instincts in the pick and roll, but guys will play him soft and go under picks knowing he doesn't have the outside shot to punish them for it. And he has to improve at finishing in the lane and developing some semblance of a midrange game.
Rubio has some real gifts - court vision and a great feel for the game, but he's not ready to play in the NBA next season. I predict if he does stay in the states that he will struggle badly next year with just enough glimpses of potential greatness to keep fans from labeling him a bust.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
I'm staying with B in accordance with my usual caution about first impressions, but B+ seems more like it. Evans was one of two good picks we could take at that position, Casspi was one of the top couple of guys there at #23, and the Sergio trade looked good until we...well, we'll see with Brotman. He'll at least try hard to make the team.
Whether this turns out A or not will depend both on how our guys develop as well as in how Rubio develops. If Rubio becomes a great charismatic star...well, we screwed up. If not I actually think there Evans has relatively little bust potential and we're pretty sure to have a contributor, as well as a much needed infusion of toughness.
Whether this turns out A or not will depend both on how our guys develop as well as in how Rubio develops. If Rubio becomes a great charismatic star...well, we screwed up. If not I actually think there Evans has relatively little bust potential and we're pretty sure to have a contributor, as well as a much needed infusion of toughness.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Not THAT cheap. Foye + Miller >>> Cisco + KT.
Cisco + Noc might have gotten us in the conversation though.
Bballkingsrock
All-Star
For all the dissappointing fans:
Geoff Petrie has clearly shown that he is a great scout for NBA potential draft picks. He has always got the best talent at our number every time except the Douby pick. People thought KMart would suck...didnt. Same for Thompson...same for peja... Tyreke WILL and IS a better player than Rubio. Rubio might bring more of a crowd but what has he done? His numbers arent that great, he is just a bunch of youtibe highlights. Anybody can just get the best of a player with some highlights put together.
I would rather have :
Strength, toughness, wing span, getting to rim ability, bit of leadership over passing, IQ,
Rubio has no strength, shooting ability, not an athlete
Tyreke can get it done
Geoff Petrie has clearly shown that he is a great scout for NBA potential draft picks. He has always got the best talent at our number every time except the Douby pick. People thought KMart would suck...didnt. Same for Thompson...same for peja... Tyreke WILL and IS a better player than Rubio. Rubio might bring more of a crowd but what has he done? His numbers arent that great, he is just a bunch of youtibe highlights. Anybody can just get the best of a player with some highlights put together.
I would rather have :
Strength, toughness, wing span, getting to rim ability, bit of leadership over passing, IQ,
Rubio has no strength, shooting ability, not an athlete
Tyreke can get it done
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jdbraver
Guest
Fire Petrie, darn him for taking that serbian kid and not the consensus pick, umm, what was that guys name again?
Aenadin
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exactly.. its a case of if you knew before what you know now...
we could have had evans, rubio, casspi, rodriguez.. (though we would have to trade kmart though)
ahhhh dreams... sweet sweet dreams
Emma
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Just watched some video of our boy Evans and my initial impression of him is, well, he's clearly a shooting guard. Man can play some PG, in fact he reminds me of somebody like... let's go with a ceiling of... Dangit I don't know.
He appears stronger than every PG (and alot of SG's), in the league besides probably Baron Davis (which is probably a decent comparison), he has handles, he is not D-wade explosive, he is not lightning quick, but he will get in the lane and finish, disrupt a defense and/or pass out. He looks unstoppable in that regard. He creates plays from nothing. That seems to be his strength. You toss him the ball to finish the play.
But dude is a SG. You can see it in the way he moves, the way he catches and shoots, his mentality, it just screams SG/combo guard. To place him at the point would be kind of awkward.
I feel the need for Ramon Sessions.
He appears stronger than every PG (and alot of SG's), in the league besides probably Baron Davis (which is probably a decent comparison), he has handles, he is not D-wade explosive, he is not lightning quick, but he will get in the lane and finish, disrupt a defense and/or pass out. He looks unstoppable in that regard. He creates plays from nothing. That seems to be his strength. You toss him the ball to finish the play.
But dude is a SG. You can see it in the way he moves, the way he catches and shoots, his mentality, it just screams SG/combo guard. To place him at the point would be kind of awkward.
I feel the need for Ramon Sessions.
and oust udrih
ivan_fiba
G-League
its really sad how picky people are
Andriod_KiNg
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The Rubio hype machine hit alot of people.
Sptsjunkie
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Not true. Miller is an expiring contract, while Noc has 3 years left (I believe). That was the problem with Noc when we acquired him which you can blame Petrie for, but to pretend that Noc>Miller, when one has an expiring contract is just wrong.
ParniValjak
All-Star
And what made you think we would have taken Rubio if we got pick 5 from Washington?!
Whats to say we wouldn't have looked at Jordan Hill or someone like that to round out our forontcourt?!
People assume that we would take Rubio. Fact is we rated Evans higher and considering Petrie's draft record, I am willing to bet that we got ourselves a very good player.
Same people were saying the same things about Westbrook last year that I am hearing about Evans. Not a true PG, more of a SG, doesn't create for others, turnover prone, can't shoot, good fenesive potential.
Westbrook just had a great rookie season and was a genuine chance for rookie of the year honours.
There is no reason why Evans cannot be our Westbrook. For crying out loud the kid is 18 and he is already a very good player.
Aenadin
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Aenadin
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ill give evans the benefit of the doubt... hes no westbrook but well see im going to be optimistic about it
and about if we had the 5th and we pick jordan hill? no way that happens...
best case that would have happened there is to have drafted rubio and stuck him in spain to save money.
Agreed. Also wonder with our need for a PG why we didn't take a flyer on Mills, but maybe they think Sergio will fill that role?
theclash4u5
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I LOVE the Evans pick, even though I am confused why we passed on Rubio...but that's okay. I didn't think he would be there at #4 in the first place, so when we got Evans instead....I was okay with it, since I didn't expect him to be a King. I like the Casspi pick, but where is he going to get playing time? Noci, Garcia, Greene and MAYBE Martin/Evans could get playing time at SF...so where is Casspi going to fit in? As for the Brockman pick, I don't know alot about him, but I do remember when Hawes was picked, some people were saying that Hawes wasn't a good rebounder because Brockman kept taking all the rebounds for himself...so that sounds like a good thing for us! 
Vlade4GM
All-Star
1st pick: B-, Pretty solid return for the #4 pick in a blah draft, but when you factor in that Rubio was on the board, someone who fills so many of the skills and intangibles that we lack, we missed out on a better prospect and a better bet. It's been my opinion that Rubio is the best all around prospect in the draft, I know that that's very debateable but that's how I view it.
2nd pick: B, not my first choice (Derrick Brown or Sam Young are safer picks IMO, and could be standout role players), but I didn't have a strong preference here and I'm not averse to Casspi. He's got better upside than those two, he's a good athlete and his off ball play is good and that's important in a complimentary player. Doesn't really provide a real polished attribute right now though.
3rd pick: F, garbage throw away pick. Derrick Brown, Chase Budinger, Marcus Thornton,, Danny Green, and Jonas Jerebko were all much better picks IMO.
2nd pick: B, not my first choice (Derrick Brown or Sam Young are safer picks IMO, and could be standout role players), but I didn't have a strong preference here and I'm not averse to Casspi. He's got better upside than those two, he's a good athlete and his off ball play is good and that's important in a complimentary player. Doesn't really provide a real polished attribute right now though.
3rd pick: F, garbage throw away pick. Derrick Brown, Chase Budinger, Marcus Thornton,, Danny Green, and Jonas Jerebko were all much better picks IMO.
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