George Karl Officially Signed (Sacramento Bee Tweets)

jcassio said:
Is that all you can talk about anymore? Christ, man. I pretty much agree with you, but the way you continue to hound on this is pathological.
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the SVG angle is new.

Does it make you mad that I'm right? What part is it?

Why so defensive everyone?
 
pretty sad when the local guys can't see how bad it is when people who aren't invested in the team can see how bad it truly is.
 
Karl is a quality coach but you have to have players to truly compete. Other than Cousins and to a lesser extent Gay, wadda ya got? There needs to be trades, signings, and cant miss drafts to pull up from the death spiral this team is in...

If not this Jet is still gonna make it to the crater... just take longer to get there...
 
Chubbs said:
the SVG angle is new.

Does it make you mad that I'm right? What part is it?

Why so defensive everyone?
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You're wrong. Results are all that matter. Outside of the KF echo chamber, no one cares about your axe to grind. We hired a HoF HC and are going to the playoffs next year.
 
Chubbs said:
Already stuck with Vivek.

Christ man, you wanted Corbin. Now you're fine with this? Pretty heartless, just like our FO.
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You're right, initially I was a proponent of having Ty coach this team for the remainder of the season. I did not expect things to go south so drastically in such a short amount of time. The Kings basically forced the hand on this move, and for good reason. I'm sure Ty will get another coaching gig as an assistant somewhere.
 
GQ_Gabriel said:
You're right, initially I was a proponent of having Ty coach this team for the remainder of the season. I did not expect things to go south so drastically in such a short amount of time. The Kings basically forced the hand on this move, and for good reason. I'm sure Ty will get another coaching gig as an assistant somewhere.
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Everyone could see it from a mile away that it was going to get this bad. That is everyone but you and the FO.

Pretty weird?
 
ForlornKing said:
Everyone could see it from a mile away that it was going to get this bad. That is everyone but you and the FO.

Pretty weird?
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I was listening to Grant Napear's show no longer than a week ago, and this was actually the main focal point of a discussion. Callers were claiming they could see this coming a mile away while Grant and others dared to dispute that it was something that anyone could have foreseen or expected. In this case, those callers appear to be correct and that's alright. The fact of the matter is, we have ended up with a great coach who is excited about this team. Some may go as far as to say that this season has been a blessing in disguise.
 
GQ_Gabriel said:
I was listening to Grant Napear's show no longer than a week ago, and this was actually the main focal point of a discussion. Callers were claiming they could see this coming a mile away while Grant and others dared to dispute that it was something that anyone could have foreseen or expected. In this case, those callers appear to be correct and that's alright. The fact of the matter is, we have ended up with a great coach who is excited about this team. Some may go as far as to say that this season has been a blessing in disguise.
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I'm still going with conspiratorial.

I have to after not being able to believe or comprehend even the most basic of notions with this.

It looks to me after Rudy resigned, and there was an excuse, Malone got axed, we took a dive and are likely to keep our pick....and end up with Karl.

At this point though I don't care if it was some sort of plot/scheme or somehow the FO got lucky with Karl however. I'm just tired of bs.
 
GQ_Gabriel said:
I was listening to Grant Napear's show no longer than a week ago, and this was actually the main focal point of a discussion. Callers were claiming they could see this coming a mile away while Grant and others dared to dispute that it was something that anyone could have foreseen or expected. In this case, those callers appear to be correct and that's alright. The fact of the matter is, we have ended up with a great coach who is excited about this team. Some may go as far as to say that this season has been a blessing in disguise.
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LOL. no one would say this season has been a blessing in disguise...well besides you ;)
 
HndsmCelt said:
It's not the firing it's the process that is morally reprehensible. The leaks of the negotiations while Corbin was still expected to go out and coach, the essential public spectacle of it all.
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Keep in mind that we don't know who was leaking during the negotiations. There were at least three parties with knowledge of the negotiations: our front office, Karl's camp, and Cousins' agent's camp. Certainly as things got closer the NBA league office was aware as well.
 
NowImLost said:
I don't give a damn about Corbin.
I care about victory and glory.
On the television screen.
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I think everyone on here would take wins over hurt feelings. That being said, the way an organizations treats it's people does have a bearing on players and coaches wanting to play here. The way the FO has behaved this season hasn't done a small, traditionally undesirable market any favors.
 
Everyone makes it sound as if Ty was kicked to the curb completely out of the organization. Corbin will continue working with the organization and has chosen to serve as an advisor to the front office.
 
Capt. Factorial said:
Keep in mind that we don't know who was leaking during the negotiations. There were at least three parties with knowledge of the negotiations: our front office, Karl's camp, and Cousins' agent's camp. Certainly as things got closer the NBA league office was aware as well.
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In the end this is just not the way professionals operate. Sure there are other examples of poorly handled coaching replacements, but they are also roundly criticized as unprofessional. In short this is not the way professionals should operate. We could go through the whole time line from the night of the rodent till today, but I think you would agree there were better, more professional and less disruptive ways to get here.
 
Hoovtrain said:
LOL. no one would say this season has been a blessing in disguise...well besides you ;)
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Find ONE reputable source outside of Kingsfans.com saying that we're worse off today than at the start of the season. Because everyone else who follows the NBA is calling this a good hire.

I am genuinely more optimistic about our long-term future today than I was when we were 9-6. Again, I like Malone and was annoyed by the firing and waiting time, but I can rationally see that we are better off today than in September of 2014.

I care more about basketball than PR, but I'm starting to think the majority of posters here disagree.
 
captain bill said:
Find ONE reputable source outside of Kingsfans.com saying that we're worse off today than at the start of the season. Because everyone else who follows the NBA is calling this a good hire.

I am genuinely more optimistic about our long-term future today than I was when we were 9-6. Again, I like Malone and was annoyed by the firing and waiting time, but I can rationally see that we are better off today than in September of 2014.

I care more about basketball than PR, but I'm starting to think the majority of posters here disagree.
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Who said anything about this not being a good hire? I actually don't really know what you are talking about. I said this season was not a blessing in disguise...and it's not. It's been a colossal trainwreck
 
captain bill said:
You're wrong. Results are all that matter. Outside of the KF echo chamber, no one cares about your axe to grind. We hired a HoF HC and are going to the playoffs next year.
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It's amusing that fans of the team who previously went through the Maloof saga can pretend a poor reputation around the league due to shoddy and incompetent business practice does not matter.

It's also a reflection of a wounded fan base and a losing culture that some fans can throw on blinders and convince themselves there suddenly aren't any concerns with this organization because we hired George Karl. But repeated losing can do that to some, especially in a small market where standards are ignored and the perspective is more of a beggar than a chooser. If Vivek/PDA/Mullin pulled this **** in LA/NY/Chi, the media vultures would have ripped them apart and rightfully so. They actually got off softer than they would have other places.

To think there are no consequences for these actions, that other teams, agents and players haven't taken note of all this dysfunction is frankly, a warped perspective and almost comes across as a sports version of Stockholm syndrome.

As for "results only mattering", it was the incompetence of this regime which produced a 7-21 record under Corbin and made us uncompetitive on a nightly basis while our franchise player had to defend himself in the media against their leaks. Yes, nice result there.
 
rainmaker said:
It's amusing that fans of the team who previously went through the Maloof saga can pretend a poor reputation around the league due to shoddy and incompetent business practice does not matter.

It's also a reflection of a wounded fan base and a losing culture that some fans can throw on blinders and convince themselves there suddenly aren't any concerns with this organization because we hired George Karl. But repeated losing can do that to some, especially in a small market where standards are ignored and the perspective is more of a beggar than a chooser. If Vivek/PDA/Mullin pulled this **** in LA/NY/Chi, the media vultures would have ripped them apart and rightfully so. They actually got off softer than they would have other places.

To think there are no consequences for these actions, that other teams, agents and players haven't taken note of all this dysfunction is frankly, a warped perspective and almost comes across as a sports version of Stockholm syndrome.
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It's amusing that fans of the team that went through the Maloof saga can confuse aggressive and risky moves aimed at building a better team with passivity and profiteering designed at cutting costs, disengaging from and alienating the fanbase and community, and ultimately relocating.

The LA Lakers were lambasted in the media much worse for their handling of the Kobe / Phil / Shaq drama. They jettisoned a HOF player and fan favorite to appease a younger talent with higher upside, and in the process let the GOAT coach walk away. Their commitment to winning at all costs - including blowing up an adored and historically great team - resulted in winning two more championships.

Stockholm Syndrome? I'd say that the fans who pride themselves on second-guessing strong and risky ownership moves, who call for the murder of our GM, and who claim over and over that they could do a better job if given the reigns, is a symptom of bitter and resentful fans who stopped caring about believing in a team, uniting behind it, and recognizing solid creative moves. Fans who apparently are content to always believe that the sky is falling, and would rather act like know-it-alls on the internet and have reduced their fandom to masochistic exercise in watching losing efforts in order to make themselves feel smarter by comparison.
 
captain bill said:
It's amusing that fans of the team that went through the Maloof saga can confuse aggressive and risky moves aimed at building a better team with passivity and profiteering designed at cutting costs, disengaging from and alienating the fanbase and community, and ultimately relocating.

The LA Lakers were lambasted in the media much worse for their handling of the Kobe / Phil / Shaq drama. They jettisoned a HOF player and fan favorite to appease a younger talent with higher upside, and in the process let the GOAT coach walk away. Their commitment to winning at all costs - including blowing up an adored and historically great team - resulted in winning two more championships.

Stockholm Syndrome? I'd say that the fans who pride themselves on second-guessing strong and risky ownership moves, who call for the murder of our GM, and who claim over and over that they could do a better job if given the reigns, is a symptom of bitter and resentful fans who stopped caring about believing in a team, uniting behind it, and recognizing solid creative moves. Fans who apparently are content to always believe that the sky is falling, and would rather act like know-it-alls on the internet and have reduced their fandom to masochistic exercise in watching losing efforts in order to make themselves feel smarter by comparison.
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Captain bill you are one of the most, if not THE most, intelligent and passionate poster and I must say this post was spot-on. I wish that all Kings fan were able to see our situation through your eyes, as opposed to having this "glass half empty" personality. I am shocked at how a fanbase fresh out of the Maloof saga can channel their anger directly at this front office who, as you have stated, have taken risks and made moves to ultimately put the best basketball product on the floor. Let's fill the seats and show our support through the rest of this season! They have contributed insurmountably to this community and are the main reason why we even have a team to speak of. Great post. Thank you.

#SacramentoPROUD
 
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