[Game] Game 31: Sacramento Kings @ Brooklyn Nets - 12/29/14 - 430 pst 730 est

I'm trying to think about what player or players he's talking about and really don't think it's about any player. Corbin? Maybe Cuz wants to do things the old way and Corbin is trying to cater to management.

Could be PDA. He's been off the grid and certainly could be a target with the Malone firing.

I wouldn't be shocked at all if it weren't about any one singular player and he was just speaking in more generalized terms in order to put some fire in his teammates.
 

Mr. S£im Citrus

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OK, but I also invented the washing machine, just because someone came out with it first doesn't mean I didn't. Haha, just razzing. I believe you. I added to this above but I'll move it down here. And yes, your inference that my post was related to your prediction that someone was going to assume who it was based on their dislike for a particular player is at the very heart of it's existence assumption that my original post was an example of such. Hate to tell you, but your first response to my post wasn't an observation, it was assumption that they are my least favorite players.
That's playing fast and loose with the definition of assumption, Mister Tesla:

Me: I believe the next person who posts will be making an assumption.
:: next person posts ::
Me: Hrmm...

That doesn't meet the criteria for any reasonable definition of assumption that I've ever heard of.
 
The silence from our FO and Vivek is deafening.

Can tell the quality of leadership when things go poorly, do they stand up, take responsibility and attempt to fix it, or do they run and hide, cower from the pressure?

Our leadership is nowhere to be seen.

I would take Cuz's quotes and point them directly at our team's hierarchy. They made a decision which has blown up in their faces, things have made a sharp turn for the worse and it might start snowballing, and they've gone into hiding. Pansies. They're going to sit here and make Corbin be the fall guy while the locker room disintegrates and Cuz at some point says "I've had enough"?
 
That's playing fast and loose with the definition of assumption, Mister Tesla:

Me: I believe the next person who posts will be making an assumption.
:: next person posts ::
Me: Hrmm...

That doesn't meet the criteria for any reasonable definition of assumption that I've ever heard of.

You said you didn't make an assumption, yet your entire point was based on one, hence my somewhat tongue in cheek response with the quote I used. You assumed that your post related to my original one in that manner otherwise you wouldn't have quoted it in the first place. It's the only way my post could reasonably relate to yours. You assumed my post was an assumption based on my personal feelings towards a specific player. I was merely trying to call out the irony in that, nothing more. No big. :)
 
PDA is finding out the hard way that this is not 2k and that players have emotions. You cant just plug and play a different(lame duck) coach and expect everyone to carry on as usual. The FO is going to learn how much work Malone was REALLY doing in holding this crappy roster together. They underestimated his skills and Vivek even went on to insult Malone by saying this team would carry on and go to the playoffs without him. Malone must be sitting on his couch counting Vivek's money and laughing....While we,the fans, again suffer.
 

Mr. S£im Citrus

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You said you didn't make an assumption, yet your entire point was based on one, hence my somewhat tongue in cheek response with the quote I used. You assumed that your post related to my original one in that manner otherwise you wouldn't have quoted it in the first place. It's the only way my post could reasonably relate to yours. You assumed my post was an assumption based on my personal feelings towards a specific player. I was merely trying to call out the irony in that, nothing more. No big. :)
I dare you to find one word of that post, where I did any such thing. You're assuming that I made an assumption, based on something I said in a previous post. I didn't actually ascribe any motives to your post.
 
This is ALL about the coaching debacle.
Did you hear DMC and R. Gay after the NY game? They are ticked off. They are confused. They don't know what they're suppose to be doing! You can just throw guys out there and expect them to effort themselves to a win every night!
sounds like jazz baby. improvisation ;)
 

Krunker

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Our pick and roll defense was terrible, Plumlee would repeatedly set a high pick, make his way to the basket, then get the ball near the hoop for the easy shot or the foul.

Even with our bad defense, if we don't turn the ball over at a ridiculous rate, it's a W. The next two at the Celtics and T-wolves should be winnable.
 
Our pick and roll defense was terrible, Plumlee would repeatedly set a high pick, make his way to the basket, then get the ball near the hoop for the easy shot or the foul.

Even with our bad defense, if we don't turn the ball over at a ridiculous rate, it's a W. The next two at the Celtics and T-wolves should be winnable.
Right now the T-wolves and Celtics are looking at the Kings and saying it's winnable for them. They may be right too.
 
I dare you to find one word of that post, where I did any such thing. You're assuming that I made an assumption, based on something I said in a previous post. I didn't actually ascribe any motives to your post.

Ah yes, but you're the one that did first ascribe a motive behind that aspect of the conversation by saying:

"I didn't make an assumption. I said that I expect other people to make an assumption. And, right after I said that, here you come. No assumption involved."

I never said you did make an assumption originally. I merely used a quote that pertained to the universal "you". You assumed that my quote was directed at you making an assumption to begin with when that quote is utilizing the universal "you", not you personally. As you inferred earlier, it's almost impossible to not assume on a board like this, which is why I brought up the irony in it. You're assuming something about someones assumption so in criticizing someone and their assumption, you used an assumption to do it.
 

Mr. S£im Citrus

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Ah yes, but you're the one that did first ascribe a motive behind that aspect of the conversation by saying:

"I didn't make an assumption. I said that I expect other people to make an assumption. And, right after I said that, here you come. No assumption involved."

I never said you did make an assumption originally. I merely used a quote that pertained to the universal "you". You assumed that my quote was directed at you making an assumption to begin with when that quote is utilizing the universal "you", not you personally. As you inferred earlier, it's almost impossible to not assume on a board like this, which is why I brought up the irony in it. You're assuming something about someones assumption so in criticizing someone and their assumption, you used an assumption to do it.
There was no ascription of motive in that post, either. You may have not read it too closely.
 
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Blake Ellington ‏@BlakeEllington 8m8 minutes ago
With both his comments and demeanor DeMarcus Cousins doesn't appear to be happy anymore. That is a problem ladies and gentlemen.
I love Cuz but since he's come back from his illness he has no right to be calling anyone out imo, his efforts on D since he's come back have been sub par, he allowed Cole Alrdich/Plumlee to have career games, if your going to call people out lead by example...committing ridiculous reach in fouls going for gambles in the post against guys who can't do anything against you is shocking. He went for a behind the back reach in 3 times and they scored 8 points (2 and1's from it).

The whole team is playing like crap on D and he's as much at fault as anyone else.
 

VF21

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I love Cuz but since he's come back from his illness he has no right to be calling anyone out imo, his efforts on D since he's come back have been sub par, he allowed Cole Alrdich/Plumlee to have career games, if your going to call people out lead by example...committing ridiculous reach in fouls going for gambles in the post against guys who can't do anything against you is shocking. He went for a behind the back reach in 3 times and they scored 8 points (2 and1's from it).

The whole team is playing like poopoo on D and he's as much at fault as anyone else.
Would you give it a rest? DMC is playing his heart out AFTER AN ILLNESS that left him with very little energy and debilitating headaches. Yes, he made some mistakes but he also refused to give up.
 
Oh look. Effort. What a freaking concept.

Way too much of this product is being put on the coaching situation. One thing the players can control is their effort on the floor and this team does well when all guys are getting after it.
The front office quit on the season.

So have the players. That's how this works. It's going to get a lot worse.
 

VF21

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The front office quit on the season.

So have the players. That's how this works. It's going to get a lot worse.
Regardless of all that, I will not quit on DeMarcus Cousins. He made it clear tonight how much passion he has for the team and the game. I will support him every single inch of the way, come hell, high water or even freaking Chris Mullin.

My anger is reserved for the idiots who put this all into motion.
 
I'm trying to think about what player or players he's talking about and really don't think it's about any player. Corbin? Maybe Cuz wants to do things the old way and Corbin is trying to cater to management.

Could be PDA. He's been off the grid and certainly could be a target with the Malone firing.
Can tell the quality of leadership when things go poorly, do they stand up, take responsibility and attempt to fix it, or do they run and hide, cower from the pressure?

Our leadership is nowhere to be seen.

I would take Cuz's quotes and point them directly at our team's hierarchy. They made a decision which has blown up in their faces, things have made a sharp turn for the worse and it might start snowballing, and they've gone into hiding. Pansies. They're going to sit here and make Corbin be the fall guy while the locker room disintegrates and Cuz at some point says "I've had enough"?
I hated some of the FO's moves too, but I would not go put them in bad light as if Cousins is blaming them for this loss against the Nets. Correct me if I am wrong because English is not my native language. Just from the context, the moment it was said (clearly "post-game interview") which was right after a painful loss, and the words he used, there is no way he could have been referring to the FO.

Here is why:

http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400578753

Cousins is having an All-Star worthy season and came into the night averaging 29.3 points and 11 rebounds in his previous four games. He thought that the Kings needed to show more "urgency" and "act like we cared." This is a post-game interview, meaning he was referring to why they lose the just concluded game. No way he was referring to the FO, because Cousins is not a moron to blame a FO that has nothing to do "directly" with the just concluded game being talked about.

The "Kings" Cousins was talking about could only be himself, other players, or the coach who were directly responsible for the loss - NOT the Kings front office.


"I'll put it like this, when you go through situations like this and things get tough, you start to see people's . true colors. You're going to see who's really in it and who's really not," Cousins was actually insinuating he had moved on and he was really into "it" or into whatever plan it is to win games, unlike other players who has yet to move on. And I really hope the fans are with him to move on.Cousins said. "As bad as this may seem, it's also a good thing because you're going to know who's ready to go to battle with you every night." Note for the phrase "battle with you every night". To me it is clear he was referring to the players or coach who play/battle with him every night/game (and not the FO who does not play/battle and only watch games)
 
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The front office quit on the season.

So have the players. That's how this works. It's going to get a lot worse.
Kenny Natt's Kings went 11 and 47. I think the team I have watched since Malone's firing is on about the same pace.

By firing Malone and Jent, Vivek, Pete and Mullin have set this Kings franchise back at least one season.

Here is a nice little article about this mess. Shareef must have wanted Elfrid Payton--> http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports....ight-argument-chris-jent-out-chris-mullin-in/
 
I hated some of the FO's moves too, but I would not go put them in bad light as if Cousins is blaming them for this loss against the Nets. Correct me if I am wrong because English is not my native language. Just from the context, the moment it was said (clearly "post-game interview") which was right after a painful loss, and the words he used, there is no way he could have been referring to the FO.

Here is why:

http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400578753

Cousins is having an All-Star worthy season and came into the night averaging 29.3 points and 11 rebounds in his previous four games. He thought that the Kings needed to show more "urgency" and "act like we cared." This is a post-game interview, meaning he was referring to why they lose the just concluded game. No way he was referring to the FO, because Cousins is not a moron to blame a FO that has nothing to do "directly" with the just concluded game being talked about.

The "Kings" Cousins was talking about could only be himself, other players, or the coach who were directly responsible for the loss - NOT the Kings front office.


"I'll put it like this, when you go through situations like this and things get tough, you start to see people's . true colors. You're going to see who's really in it and who's really not," Cousins was actually insinuating he had moved on and he was really into "it" or into whatever plan it is to win games, unlike other players who has yet to move on. And I really hope the fans are with him to move on.Cousins said. "As bad as this may seem, it's also a good thing because you're going to know who's ready to go to battle with you every night." Note for the phrase "battle with you every night". To me it is clear he was referring to the players or coach who play/battle with him every night/game (and not the FO who does not play/battle and only watch games)
Do you ever feel like you're driving against traffic?
 
Do you ever feel like you're driving against traffic?
Yes, kind of.

We are creating more controversies by giving irrational meaning of what was said which perpetuates the endless negativity.

Some of us are posting like juveniles already.

IMO, I don't think it helps Cousins (and the Kings as a whole) anymore who clearly want to move on.
 
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