FOX 40 News says Courtney Alexander
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Circa_1985_Fan
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Recognizable NBA face?? I know about Courtney, and I'm sure alot of other people know of him, but um...not that recognizable. Good pick up, though, if its true.
maybe is it becasue of Christie going down?
Bricklayer
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Well if that's true I'm pretty happy about that one on a talent level. And I have to disagree with the source who said its not a significant move. The guy has some real talent -- a couple of years abck he showed flashes of being a potential high teens scorer. But he's a risk both healthwise and headwise. Do wonder what this means for Martin though. Courtney is basically another pure OG. Might not be a bad young pairing to have sitting over there as doug rides off into the sunset, but as both of them are pretty much pure skinny OGs rather than 1/2s or 2/3s, not sure there are really minutes for both of them, either now or into the future.
Circa_1985_Fan
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I think the Christie factor has alot to do with it. Dude can shoot, I remember watching him at Fresno. He played well for the Wizards, before Jordan came back. Averaged 8 pts off the bench last year for the Hornets, too...another young scorer off our bench, which I think is WAY better than last year's.
HndsmCelt
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good back up for Christie/Bobby and potentialy someone who can paly behind Pedja at the 3 (Although I would not rule out Darius playing at 3 and 4 both). Courtney may well have outgrown some of his immaturity and like many of our other head cases (read JJ) use this opertunity on a high profile team to rebuild his rep. As for heis health... timewill tell, but I can't imagine GP even talking to a guy with Court's history unless the mediacl reports, and work outs are good. Of course the final test is how does he play, so lets not get too excited untill preseason games start. I can tell you one thing if Court is on the preseason roster he will get a nice welcome home for the game in Freson against LA.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Yeah, but I think one difference here is that Alexander is a young player himself. Not THAT young (think he's 26/27) but still young enough so that he's still got a chance to emerge and if he does we'd be in good shape for the future. Not quite the same thing as stifling a 23 yr old for a 34 yr old at the end of the line.Mad D said:
Could make it tough for Minard though unless he can show he can run some point. Right now we have a lot of bodies stacked up who can play 2/3/4, but really only two PGs and 2Cs. If Alexander is added I think that 12th spot just about has to go to somebody at one end of the extreme or the other for depth, especially given the tendency for Webb/Miller/Jackson to miss time with injury.
Top 11 Depth chart:
Ostertag -- C
Miller -- C/PF
Webb -- PF/C
Songaila -- PF
Peja -- SF/PF
Blumenthal -- SF
Alexander -- OG/SF (and calling him a SF is a real reach, just guessing)
Martin -- OG
Christie -- OG/PG
Jackson -- PG/OG
Bibby -- PG
Now MAYBE you can go into the season with Webb as the #3 center and Doug as the #3 PG, but that's not the natural position of either guy, and ideally I think you'd want to have a real reserve at at least one of those two spots and only swing your aging starters over there in an emergency.
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Ryle
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Alexander tore his achilles which put him out for the year. He did it a year ago and normally this heals pretty well(my brother did it playing soccer and college and came back to play the next year with no ill effects). I like the pickup and it's good to have a former Bulldog on the roster.
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#1sacfan
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Its a good pick-up. They guy can score quickly and provide a spark off the bench. It will be interesting to see how he fits in with the team. He will not stunt the development of any players because only the best players will play and if Martin is better then he will be playing.
Most importantly we have better depth now then we used to and if the team gels it could be a great year.
Most importantly we have better depth now then we used to and if the team gels it could be a great year.
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buddahead_916
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Good pick up for a spark off the bench. Although the scoop sure did get my hopes up with that recognizable face thing.
thedofd
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Couldn't agree with you more. While Adelman seems reluctant to use rookies generally, no coach is going to keep someone who can really help nailed to the bench for long. If Alexander is healthy, he still has potential to grow into a decent NBA player. The Achilles injury set him back last year, but he once scored 33 in a game against Toronto and in 2000-01, he averaged 17 ppg on 45% FG (39% 3s) in 27 games for Washington.#1sacfan said:
The question that several people have raised is legitimate: Are the Kings satisfied with their depth behind the forward line, or are they just waiting to see what happens in training camp and hoping someone decent is cut loose and made available? I wonder if they grabbed Alexander because they felt they needed more backcourt depth, simply because he was the best guy out there they could get cheap, or because they are more concerned about Doug Christie's feet than they're letting on.
tetsuo916
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if it is Courtney im really excited... and i argue that he IS a recognizable face.. he was the guy who Jordan benched after averaging 20ppg in the last 2 months of the season (before MJ signed on). He was "supposed" to become the PG of the MJ-Wizards... his face was all over publications before that season... hehe
I'm somewhat surprised that so many people approve of this move, if it in fact goes down. How are we filling our needs for a back-up PF/C and a defensive presence by signing another pure scorer? I find it hard to believe that Ostertag is our answer to this problem, and Courtney Alexander is also a far cry. :sigh:
Kev.in
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The problem is, who's a big man out there that can help? I think we're better off playing a small lineup with Peja at the 4 if two or three of our bigs are going to be out all at the same time. On the other hand, I think there is some quiet concern with Christie's foot. He's projected to be ready to go for the season opener, but if he has a setback, all of a sudden Alexander might be playing 20mpg. It's better to pick up an insurance player now than to wait until October and be stuck trying to find someone who can produce from the leftovers.
Ryle
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When you look at this realistically the only way that a 5th PF/C would play on this team is if someone would get hurt. Alexander can jump right in and start at the 2 guard if Doug's rehab doesn't go as planned. I don't think the Kings feel comfortable having a rookie back up Doug at this point until he can actually get some game experience.JayBird said:
Doesn't anyone remeber last year against Minnesota when we were forced to use Rodney Buford???
SacKings384
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Yup... That was very unfortunate...Ryle said:
The realist in me says that we will not get anywhere close to 82 games out of Webber. I'm not bashing him or anything, just saying that he is incredibly injury-prone, and it wouldn't hurt to have a plan just in case. Brad Miller is the man and plays with tons of heart. I will reserve judgement on Tag till the season starts, but he was pretty useless in Utah and I don't think much will change in Sacramento. That leaves us with 2nd year man Songaila, who I love, but who may not be ready for extensive minutes in case of injury. I know I'm being very pessimistic, but I just don't think that Ostertag and Darius are enough off the bench, especially if Webber has his annual injury. I would like to see one more big guy on this roster.Heuge said:
IMO, bibby/bobby/christie/minard/martin is more complete of a backcourt than Miller/Webb/Ostertag/Songaila is of a frontcourt. Plus, with Adelman's history of not allowing rookies to develop, Courtney Alexander would be a big detriment to the development of our two M's, and in the long run, I think that we will regret it (see Gerald Wallace).
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
I DON'T approve of this move as far as filling a need -- Alexander is really in no way a SF, is a poor defender, and a bad rebounder even for an OG. If he's the backup "3" he won't give us anything but some offense.
But on the other hand, I DO approve of this move as adding a talented player to the squad, of which I am always in favor. Martin and Minard may turn out to be real players in this league, but they are both really late draft picks from small schools, and you just don't know. They are also too small to play the SF themselves. Alexander is a proven NBA scorer and former lottery pick. He's also still young. I'm not sure he fills a need for us, but he adds to our talent base and gives us a guy we KNOW can play at this level (health aside). He's also a scorer/shooter, which seems to be about the only way to attract attention off the bench for the Kings.
In any case, Big Man #5 is logical, but he's also a garbage player. If we stay healthy there are exactly zero minutes available for him -- our frontcourt is top notch. So we really only need him for the inevitable injuries, and because of that we wouldn't be picking up another real talented guy to fill that slot. Just a big body to play the garbage minutes and for emergencies. Wouldn't make us better. Alexander though is a talent. He MIGHT make us better even if we're healthy, or at the very least replaces the Peeler player from last year as somebody who can come in and get the job done if the kids falter. I'll take more talent on the team almost no matter what position it plays.
Bottomline, based on the penny pinching we've seen of late from the Kings this pickup could easily have been a true scrub, a washed up vet, or some other borderline player who barely belonged in the league. Instead we got (supposedly -- official announcement yet?) a proven NBA scorer/rotation player in his prime. Like I say, I'll take that.
P.S. I think you underestimate Tag. He's oafy and fun to make fun of, but there's a reason he's never been kicked to the end of the bench and has always been a spot starter type. He's consistently one of the best rebounders and shot blockers in the league.
But on the other hand, I DO approve of this move as adding a talented player to the squad, of which I am always in favor. Martin and Minard may turn out to be real players in this league, but they are both really late draft picks from small schools, and you just don't know. They are also too small to play the SF themselves. Alexander is a proven NBA scorer and former lottery pick. He's also still young. I'm not sure he fills a need for us, but he adds to our talent base and gives us a guy we KNOW can play at this level (health aside). He's also a scorer/shooter, which seems to be about the only way to attract attention off the bench for the Kings.
In any case, Big Man #5 is logical, but he's also a garbage player. If we stay healthy there are exactly zero minutes available for him -- our frontcourt is top notch. So we really only need him for the inevitable injuries, and because of that we wouldn't be picking up another real talented guy to fill that slot. Just a big body to play the garbage minutes and for emergencies. Wouldn't make us better. Alexander though is a talent. He MIGHT make us better even if we're healthy, or at the very least replaces the Peeler player from last year as somebody who can come in and get the job done if the kids falter. I'll take more talent on the team almost no matter what position it plays.
Bottomline, based on the penny pinching we've seen of late from the Kings this pickup could easily have been a true scrub, a washed up vet, or some other borderline player who barely belonged in the league. Instead we got (supposedly -- official announcement yet?) a proven NBA scorer/rotation player in his prime. Like I say, I'll take that.
P.S. I think you underestimate Tag. He's oafy and fun to make fun of, but there's a reason he's never been kicked to the end of the bench and has always been a spot starter type. He's consistently one of the best rebounders and shot blockers in the league.
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Brick, correct me if I'm wrong, but are you saying that this is a good pick up, assuming we stay healthy? If so, that is a huge assumption, given our recent history and the fact that #4 is still on the roster. I'd rather have a roster prepared for injury (something we haven't really ever had) than another talent filled roster (something that we've had for the last 5 seasons, and something that has gotten us 0 rings).Bricklayer said:
Heuge
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That is a very valid point that I hadn't thought too much of. It seems to me that it may not be the most adventageous to assume your players are going to miss significant time- even if it is Webber. If he is gone for a great period of time, we will be in big trouble regardless of who we pick up. Big men, at this piont in time seems like a wash to me. So, I figure if something really bad does happen we could pick one up midseason.JayBird said:
Peja's backup on the other hand is vital. We dont want him tired in the end- if indeed that was what happened.
IMO, the Gerald Wallace thing is more, GW's fault than RA's. RA wanted to give him a chance but everytime the opportunity was there he did something stupid or came up injured.JayBird said:
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